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Post by desertash on Sept 4, 2018 18:34:46 GMT -5
Okwara waived. John Jenkins signed Could have been those 3 sacks Tanney had in that last game.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 4, 2018 18:43:43 GMT -5
Is this guy an upgrade over Robert Thomas? One would hope that’s the driving factor. . Right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 18:45:42 GMT -5
Okwara waived. John Jenkins signed Could have been those 3 sacks Tanney had in that last game. I’m having fun with it but the 3 QB thing really does bug me and always will 🙃
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Post by boxcarwillie on Sept 4, 2018 20:25:47 GMT -5
I like the move, adding a beefy DT and releasing an edge guy. After Thomas and Francis DTs were waived, I saw 0 depth at that position. I don't see any strong connection between this move and the keeping of Tanney, however.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Sept 4, 2018 20:28:08 GMT -5
Yep, we decided there was a greater need for depth behind Snacks. Prior to signing Jenkins, we didn't have a true NT with experience. The plan was to rely on Tomlinson and Hill to give Snacks a blow.
Whichever team ends up getting Okwara is getting a solid player, he played well when we lost JPP years ago and this preseason led our team in total pressures.
He will be missed . I looks like Gettelman wants big men to clog up that front. The more O-linemen the NT and 2 DTs lock up. It frees up our LBs and edge rushers. and Bettcher!
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Post by Nullusion on Sept 4, 2018 21:02:11 GMT -5
Seems like they're doing everything they can to mold this roster to fit the 3-4 scheme. Somebody was going to have to spell Harrison at NT.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 4, 2018 22:44:34 GMT -5
no clue. but a good question. So long as thomas remains on a PS, the NYG can grab him back if need be, methinks. Churning the back end of a roster makes some sense in that regard i suppose. Thomas went to buffalo think DG worked with there GM in Carolina he one of DGs guys. yes there were only two giants that signed with other teams PSs. The other was Webb with jets. But I thought Philly got one to? I'll check
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 4, 2018 22:45:52 GMT -5
Yes the other was Andrew Adams to Philly PS
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 8:33:07 GMT -5
Martin the latest burnt offering to the gods of Tanney and Stewart
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 8:49:23 GMT -5
Yes the other was Andrew Adams to Philly PS Is it me or is there a lot of over reaction to bottom of the roster moves besides Webb think the coach thought the rookie has a higher ceiling,not one of the guys cut have been put on another teams 53 hopefully they have upgraded the bottom of the roster, just because some of these guys started or played significant rolls for this team doesn't mean anything they were 3-13 and way more bad then good over the last six years, my hope is the days of sitting watching the same guys with the same flaws sit on scholarship for years Hosely Austin Flowers the beat goes on, this is part of fixing a broken team and system, there just getting started more will be coming in the next few years.
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Post by jimmieray on Sept 5, 2018 8:56:44 GMT -5
Seems like they're doing everything they can to mold this roster to fit the 3-4 scheme. Somebody was going to have to spell Harrison at NT. I recall that the new DC was supposedly consulted on what personnel they already had, and what needs there were for his scheme, well before the draft. That's one thing that makes all this very odd, now.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 9:02:27 GMT -5
I like the move, adding a beefy DT and releasing an edge guy. After Thomas and Francis DTs were waived, I saw 0 depth at that position. I don't see any strong connection between this move and the keeping of Tanney, however. It's all Tanney's fault the new Eli lol.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 9:06:09 GMT -5
Seems like they're doing everything they can to mold this roster to fit the 3-4 scheme. Somebody was going to have to spell Harrison at NT. I recall that the new DC was supposedly consulted on what personnel they already had, and what needs there were for his scheme, well before the draft. That's one thing that makes all this very odd, now. Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive.
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Post by jimmieray on Sept 5, 2018 9:11:31 GMT -5
I recall that the new DC was supposedly consulted on what personnel they already had, and what needs there were for his scheme, well before the draft. That's one thing that makes all this very odd, now. Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive. Oh for sure - but some of this could have been addressed better, or before this week. So it would seem, at least.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 9:19:21 GMT -5
Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive. Oh for sure - but some of this could have been addressed better, or before this week. So it would seem, at least. this is a good time of year for teams with lots of holes they can get plug and play second tier players guys who have started in the league and probably the GM and asst GM know something about, early on it's undrafted guys that have 0 experience that would be projects in most cases.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 9:21:12 GMT -5
I recall that the new DC was supposedly consulted on what personnel they already had, and what needs there were for his scheme, well before the draft. That's one thing that makes all this very odd, now. Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive. They could've made a bigger dent if they traded back from the 2 pick.. Just saying again... lol
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 5, 2018 9:31:29 GMT -5
Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive. They could've made a bigger dent if they traded back from the 2 pick.. Just saying again... lol Perhaps. Or they could have been too cute and moved back so far that they lost out on a much more impactful player, but it’s all irrelevant anyway since none of us knows if that was ever a real option or not.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 9:39:34 GMT -5
Don't think they had enough picks to fix the mess they inherited,this is years not months to fix seems as tho they are trying to stay competitive. They could've made a bigger dent if they traded back from the 2 pick.. Just saying again... lol I was good with that but if they turn it around in a few years and Barkely is realizes his potential we will all be happy, sometimes letting the natural order of things play out works, at this point I'm trusting the coach and the GM think they have both done good where ever they have gone I'm sure there is a method to their madness.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 9:54:48 GMT -5
They could've made a bigger dent if they traded back from the 2 pick.. Just saying again... lol I was good with that but if they turn it around in a few years and Barkely is realizes his potential we will all be happy, sometimes letting the natural order of things play out works, at this point I'm trusting the coach and the GM think they have both done good where ever they have gone I'm sure there is a method to their madness. Dumpster diving for 8 new players a week before the season starts screams trouble... Not sure how anyone can say that Shurmer's 1st coaching job was a good one...
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Post by Speedman on Sept 5, 2018 9:56:44 GMT -5
I was good with that but if they turn it around in a few years and Barkely is realizes his potential we will all be happy, sometimes letting the natural order of things play out works, at this point I'm trusting the coach and the GM think they have both done good where ever they have gone I'm sure there is a method to their madness. Dumpster diving for 8 new players a week before the season starts screams trouble... Not sure how anyone can say that Shurmer's 1st coaching job was a good one... It screams that they started with a lousy roster.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 10:00:03 GMT -5
I was good with that but if they turn it around in a few years and Barkely is realizes his potential we will all be happy, sometimes letting the natural order of things play out works, at this point I'm trusting the coach and the GM think they have both done good where ever they have gone I'm sure there is a method to their madness. Dumpster diving for 8 new players a week before the season starts screams trouble... Not sure how anyone can say that Shurmer's 1st coaching job was a good one... he really was not in a good situation first year strike no training camp second new ownership he has been more then good as a coordinator, feel bad for you if you thought they could fix 6 years of bad in one year,I will take it if they are moving in the right direction, there is no magic to be done here that let the last regime spend the money and make a bunch of top 10 draft picks thats where it all went wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:00:47 GMT -5
Dumpster diving for 8 new players a week before the season starts screams trouble... Not sure how anyone can say that Shurmer's 1st coaching job was a good one... It screams that they started with a lousy roster. It also screams that it still is...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:04:20 GMT -5
Dumpster diving for 8 new players a week before the season starts screams trouble... Not sure how anyone can say that Shurmer's 1st coaching job was a good one... he really was not in a good situation first year strike no training camp second new ownership he has been more then good as a coordinator, feel bad for you if you thought they could fix 6 years of bad in one year,I will take it if they are moving in the right direction, there is no magic to be done here that let the last regime spend the money and make a bunch of top 10 draft picks thats where it all went wrong. You feel bad for me without even knowing a thing about my ideas for this team??? That's doesn't make any sense not sure why you would say that.. There is a plan and it's not dumpster diving at the 12th hour!!! That plan would be to trade back the 2nd pick to collect a bunch of high drafted players...
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Post by Speedman on Sept 5, 2018 10:05:56 GMT -5
It screams that they started with a lousy roster. It also screams that it still is... Can’t see how you make that statement when the season hasn’t started yet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:10:55 GMT -5
It also screams that it still is... Can’t see how you make that statement when the season hasn’t started yet. Classic response... You need to quote nearly every post out here with that!! Can't see why you think taking others teams cuts a week before the season as something possibly good..
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Post by Speedman on Sept 5, 2018 10:15:39 GMT -5
Can’t see how you make that statement when the season hasn’t started yet. Classic response... You need to quote nearly every post out here with that!! Can't see why you think taking others teams cuts a week before the season as something possibly good.. Seems very clear to me. They needed to upgrade the roster.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 5, 2018 10:48:34 GMT -5
he really was not in a good situation first year strike no training camp second new ownership he has been more then good as a coordinator, feel bad for you if you thought they could fix 6 years of bad in one year,I will take it if they are moving in the right direction, there is no magic to be done here that let the last regime spend the money and make a bunch of top 10 draft picks thats where it all went wrong. You feel bad for me without even knowing a thing about my ideas for this team??? That's doesn't make any sense not sure why you would say that.. There is a plan and it's not dumpster diving at the 12th hour!!! That plan would be to trade back the 2nd pick to collect a bunch of high drafted players... Sorry don't take it the wrong way I don't like to be insulted by computer lol and if I did that to you I'm sorry, agree I liked that model as well but management liked Barkely better and I firmly believe DG knows what he is doing all GMs make mistakes hope this isn't one of them ,the silver lining is that I do believe they got a freak of a RB it might take a couple of games to get the timing down but this guy is RB/WR he can run the whole route tree and do it as good as a wideout, all I'm saying is he won't be the biggest mistake, one other thing in the trade down scenario is that they would of had to go out of the top 10 I believe, supposedly the talent drop off was pretty big after that.
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Post by jmike on Sept 5, 2018 10:56:11 GMT -5
I don't agree with letting Martin go. If they were to drop a RB it should have been Stewart. I liked what I saw in Martin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 11:07:51 GMT -5
Classic response... You need to quote nearly every post out here with that!! Can't see why you think taking others teams cuts a week before the season as something possibly good.. Seems very clear to me. They needed to upgrade the roster. And all I said the dumpster diving isn't a favorable way of doing it..
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Post by jmike on Sept 5, 2018 11:10:15 GMT -5
Seems very clear to me. They needed to upgrade the roster. And all I said the dumpster diving isn't a favorable way of doing it.. Do they have other options at this point in the season?
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