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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 11, 2021 21:04:48 GMT -5
Appreciate the work-- you guys have been busy over here. I knew better than check this out before FA. Getting jacked for some of these guys to be donning Giants blue. Unless it's addressed in FA I would love to see two very serious offensive weapons early in the draft, whether that takes a trade or not.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 12, 2021 14:03:54 GMT -5
Appreciate the work-- you guys have been busy over here. I knew better than check this out before FA. Getting jacked for some of these guys to be donning Giants blue. Unless it's addressed in FA I would love to see two very serious offensive weapons early in the draft, whether that takes a trade or not. Honestly I'm starting to get burned out doing these No movement at all on the good big boards in over a month....seems I'm taking the same players every time |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 13, 2021 11:56:16 GMT -5
Seeing as we are doing very little in FA
I'm figuring out a way to extend Williams.....get Tomlinson back
And post draft bring in Malcom Butler either the restructure or June 1st cut with Solder
Extending Bradberry for more space..
This is my "going all in on offense " draft
Used Fanspeak Jake's board ..little different
Trades back in the 2nd with Miami for their 3rd (81)
11: R1 P11 OT Rashawn Slater - Northwestern
The 3 recievers and Pitts were gone
He is here ...plug and play at RG who can play tackle in an emergency
50: R2 P18 WR D’Wayne Eskridge - Western Michigan
Dynamic all over the field playmaker that the team is in dire need of them
76: R3 P12 G Trey Smith - Tennessee
BPA...insurance in case Lemieux doesn't be anything more than a backup..also a T in an emergency
81: R3 P17 WR Dyami Brown - North Carolina
Another dynamic playmaker who is more an outside guy,great route runner with 4.39 speed
116: R4 P11 LB Jabril Cox - LSU
Some depth at inside LB...
195: R6 P12 WR Marquez Stevenson - Houston
More speed with a little size outside..
200: R6 P17 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State
Perfect modern bowling ball type with skills in the passing game to back up Barkley
If we keep the defense intact,growth from tbe kids and just a decent vet like Butler we get into the top 10 on defense
Adding all this on Offemse either helps Jones take the big step this year to legit great franchise qb or gives us something for his replacement....
Having a top 10 offense and top 10 defense with a great qb is what wins super bowls in this era.....
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 13, 2021 22:12:58 GMT -5
Draft network draft
BB Mock draft 1
1. Rashawn Slater- Was leaning to Darishaw or Devante Smith but ultimately went with Slater as he is current favorite on the board and can play all position but can immediately play guard and can backup at center in a
2. Joseph Ossai EDGE - I think this is an nice fit for our multiple front defense
3.Andre Sisco Safety -I know we have safeties but this value was too good to pass up. His instincts are too good.
4. Anthony Schwartz WR- Track speed to keep defense honest.
5. Ihmir Smith-Marsette WR- His QB was really bad but starter 1 potential.
6. Tamarrion Terry WR- A Big and fast prospect that can get seperation and win contested catches. Concentration issues seem to plague him as he seem to look for the big play which he can do.
I told myself self if a reciever wasn't there in the first three picks I was just going to throw darts at WRs I like. I like the chances with my choices.
I also went into the draft with BPA first 2 rounds and Value at the 3RD pick . I wasn't desperate for a CB either because there might be a good litter of CBs in FA and frankly we seem to sign better CBs than draft them.
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 13, 2021 22:19:37 GMT -5
Draft network draft BB Mock draft 1 1. Rashawn Slater- Was leaning to Darishaw or Devante Smith but ultimately went with Slater as he is current favorite on the board and can play all position but can immediately play guard and can backup at center in a pinch. 2. Joseph Ossai EDGE - I think this is an nice fit for our multiple front defense. 3. Andre Sisco Safety -I know we have safeties but this value was too good to pass up. His instincts are too good. 4. Anthony Schwartz WR- Track speed to keep defense honest. 5. Ihmir Smith-Marsette WR- His QB was really bad but starter 1 potential. 6. Tamarrion Terry WR- A Big and fast prospect that can get seperation and win contested catches. Concentration issues seem to plague him as he seem to look for the big play which he can do. I told myself self if A reciever didn't show wasn't there in the first three picks I was just going to throw darts at WRs I like. I like the chance with my choices. I also went into the draft with BPA first 2 rounds and Value at the 3RD pick . I wasn't desperate for a CB either because there might be a good litter of CBs in FA and frankly we seems to sign better CBs than draft them. Like Smith Marsette ( Iowa ) he is one of my sleeper picks. Unfortunately, Giants don't have 5th round pick in 2021. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 13, 2021 22:48:49 GMT -5
Draft network draft BB Mock draft 1 1. Rashawn Slater- Was leaning to Darishaw or Devante Smith but ultimately went with Slater as he is current favorite on the board and can play all position but can immediately play guard and can backup at center in a pinch. 2. Joseph Ossai EDGE - I think this is an nice fit for our multiple front defense. 3. Andre Sisco Safety -I know we have safeties but this value was too good to pass up. His instincts are too good. 4. Anthony Schwartz WR- Track speed to keep defense honest. 5. Ihmir Smith-Marsette WR- His QB was really bad but starter 1 potential. 6. Tamarrion Terry WR- A Big and fast prospect that can get seperation and win contested catches. Concentration issues seem to plague him as he seem to look for the big play which he can do. I told myself self if A reciever didn't show wasn't there in the first three picks I was just going to throw darts at WRs I like. I like the chance with my choices. I also went into the draft with BPA first 2 rounds and Value at the 3RD pick . I wasn't desperate for a CB either because there might be a good litter of CBs in FA and frankly we seems to sign better CBs than draft them. Like Smith Marsette ( Iowa ) he is one of my sleeper picks. Unfortunately, Giants don't have 5th round pick in 2021. I didn't pick him up in the 5th round. He was my 5th pick. I couldn't copy my results and did remember the rounds. |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Mar 16, 2021 11:45:18 GMT -5
R1 P18 WR Rashod Bateman - Minnesota- Traded back and got a legit weapon for this offense because Chase, Pitts, Waddle, and Smith were all gone. Netting an extra second and third while still getting someone like Bateman would be incredible
R2 P10 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa- Do it all LB who would be a fan favorite instantly I think. Him and Martinez would be such a fun duo at LB
R2 P18 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State- Zeitler is gone and I would prefer not to go into the season with Lemieux and Hernandez at guard. I think Davis is significantly better than both of them. Let Shane and Hernandez battle it out for that second guard spot. Day one starter
R3 P12 EDGE Patrick Jones II - Pittsburgh- Edge talent is something this team needs. He isn't an elite prospect, and he does have some refining to do, but I really do like his game. I think he can be a very solid player at the next level.
R3 P17 WR Amon-Ra St. Brown - USC- I would take him here all day. Slayton, Bateman, and St. Brown would be a very exciting WR trio and you have Shepard in the mix as well. Several guys who can play inside and outside.
R4 P11 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia- 6'1 CB with ridiculous speed at played at the highest level of college football. Sign me up in the 4th
R6 P12 OT Robert Jones - Middle Tennessee- OT prospect I like late in the draft. Depth is always a good thing
R6 P17 RB Trey Sermon - Ohio State- RB depth even after the signing of Booker
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 9:52:15 GMT -5
Just remember fans, the same Judge whom you all say is involved and signs off on input for any Gettleman free agency move thus far, is also the guy who believes Engram is a vital cog on this offense.
Let that sink in when you cherry pick when you want to use the Judge "card"
I've now fixed everything Gettleman has ever done wrong....
11: R1 P11 WR Ja'Marr Chase - LSU
X receiver - check
42: R2 P10 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State
Guard who can zone, gap, pull and pass block...from day 1
76: R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State
Would instantly become a fan favorite...a leverage master with a burst
116: R4 P11 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia
A Georgia CB with raw speed, and the ability to stay awake in meetings...win, win
195: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin
Not great on the edge with speed rushers, but a gap blocking monster...I see guard in the NFL
200: R6 P17 TE Luke Farrell - Ohio State.
I've been mocking him to the Giants since his birth....time for the next blocking tight end who can catch a ball if play called wide open
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 17, 2021 10:03:37 GMT -5
Just remember fans, the same Judge whom you all say is involved and signs off on input for any Gettleman free agency move thus far, is also the guy who believes Engram is a vital cog on this offense. Let that sink in when you cherry pick when you want to use the Judge "card" I've now fixed everything Gettleman has ever done wrong....11: R1 P11 WR Ja'Marr Chase - LSU X receiver - check 42: R2 P10 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State Guard who can zone, gap, pull and pass block...from day 1 76: R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State Would instantly become a fan favorite...a leverage master with a burst 116: R4 P11 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia A Georgia CB with raw speed, and the ability to stay awake in meetings...win, win 195: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin Not great on the edge with speed rushers, but a gap blocking monster...I see guard in the NFL 200: R6 P17 TE Luke Farrell - Ohio State. I've been mocking him to the Giants since his birth....time for the next blocking tight end who can catch a ball if play called wide open Except the most important one Get back the 3 plus years here and him accepting the job offer Very solid draft |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 19, 2021 8:51:12 GMT -5
No mocks from me until we see what happens with Golladay as he kinda now dictates what I do from here on out
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 19, 2021 12:11:25 GMT -5
IF we get Golladay, this is a KILLER mock. Hell, even if we DONT get him this is still a good haul if I dont say myself
R1 P11 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
R2 P10 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State
R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State
R4 P11 EDGE Quincy Roche - Miami
R6 P12 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State
R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 19, 2021 12:35:18 GMT -5
IF we get Golladay, this is a KILLER mock. Hell, even if we DONT get him this is still a good haul if I dont say myself R1 P11 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida R2 P10 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State R4 P11 EDGE Quincy Roche - Miami R6 P12 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 13:44:09 GMT -5
IF we get Golladay, this is a KILLER mock. Hell, even if we DONT get him this is still a good haul if I dont say myself R1 P11 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida R2 P10 G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State R4 P11 EDGE Quincy Roche - Miami R6 P12 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis Yeah, you just found 6 guys making the team and playing reps, and two quality starters...another rotational guy for the DL |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 20, 2021 20:45:12 GMT -5
First week free agency mock We now have a very large dynamic playmaker that will help Slayton push defenses to have to defend the entire field and a TE with glue hands We lost Tomlinson but still depth..also lost Zeitler Having the chance for a stud guard is now a possibility as we aren't a starving UNICEF kid at Golden Coral at WR Fanspeak Jake So..... 26: R1 P26 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa Yes he is a late 1st talent even though he was rated 42 on his board This defense just got a dynamic playmaker/weapon at the 2nd level.. FWIW Slater was gone and I passed on both Smith and Waddle 42: R2 P10 DL Daviyon Nixon - Iowa Major run on o line before my pick. (Rousseau went in the 2nd btw) Marshall isn't a factor as we have our big guy...a glut of small/mid sized tyreek Hill types ranked near where my 2nd pick this round is. So again..Golladay allows me to get a guy like this and replace Tomlinson Check out his tape fanspeak.com/2021-nfl-draft-profile/daviyon-nixon-iowa/59: R2 P27 WR D'Wayne Eskridge - Western Michigan Dynamic X factor playmaker that eventually replaces Shepard in 2022 and makes this offense frightening.... 76: R3 P12 G Deonte Brown - Alabama Was hoping for a guy that would be an instant day 1 starter Brown isn't going to be an instant starter ...but he has a high ceiling.. 89: R3 P25 EDGE Patrick Jones II - Pittsburgh BPA...why not another edge rusher... 91: R3 P27 RB Jaret Patterson - Buffalo BPA..... more backfield depth.. 116: R4 P11 DL Tyler Shelvin - LSU BPA ...adding more talent up front...can he even make Hill expendable? 195: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin O line depth. 200: R6 P17 TE Luke Farrell - Ohio State BPA...5 TEs.....he was a receiving threat when Haskins was QB...an established good blocker ... TRADES Trade Partner: Cleveland Browns Sent: Round 1 Pick 11 Received: Round 1 Pick 26 Round 2 Pick 27 Round 3 Pick 25 Round 3 Pick 27 |
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 20, 2021 21:53:53 GMT -5
Got bored and gave PFF another try. Didnt love their results. They also had Zach Wilson going #1 overall Smh  |
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Post by Speedman on Mar 20, 2021 22:25:50 GMT -5
PFF needs to rework their board. Too many good players with low ratings.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 20, 2021 23:58:52 GMT -5
PFF needs to rework their board. Too many good players with low ratings. Don't tell the feebs over on BBV that swear by that site's mocks... Beyond unrealistic Fanspeak Steve and Jake's big boards are the most realistic |
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 21, 2021 6:30:41 GMT -5
I prefer Pro Football Network’s mock
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 21, 2021 8:53:02 GMT -5
If we sign Adoree Jackson and having signed Golladay, we could go ANYWHERE in the draft.... I can't wait to see how Jackson's meeting goes then get to some more mocks!!
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Post by imgrate on Mar 21, 2021 10:31:30 GMT -5
PFF needs to rework their board. Too many good players with low ratings. Don't tell the feebs over on BBV that swear by that site's mocks... Beyond unrealistic Fanspeak Steve and Jake's big boards are the most realistic I've personally never been in the BBV boards, but because of your posts I have this picture in my head of all the posters there and how dumb they are. It's kind of funny whenever I see another post of yours and you drop in the BBV name |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 21, 2021 10:35:07 GMT -5
Don't tell the feebs over on BBV that swear by that site's mocks... Beyond unrealistic Fanspeak Steve and Jake's big boards are the most realistic I've personally never been in the BBV boards, but because of your posts I have this picture in my head of all the posters there and how dumb they are. It's kind of funny whenever I see another post of yours and you drop in the BBV name There are a few knowledgeable posters there... its who I intermingle with... It's where those relics that want to go back to 1990 era Giants football all seemed to have gone...mainly because Ed is one of those people (he is the biggest Gettleman apologist I have ever seen and still blames Reese for why the team stinks ) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 14:16:29 GMT -5
Assuming we go into this draft with the only craving a versatile guard/tackle that can play day 1....this draft will be recalled as the parade number 5 draft.
17: R1 P17 G Alijah Vera-Tucker - USC
42: R2 P10 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa
48: R2 P16 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
76: R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State
116: R4 P11 WR D’Wayne Eskridge - Western Michigan
196: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin
201: R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis
TRADES
Trade Partner: Las Vegas Raiders
Sent:
Round 1 Pick 11
Received:
Round 1 Pick 17
Round 2 Pick 16
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 21, 2021 21:16:20 GMT -5
Assuming we go into this draft with the only craving a versatile guard/tackle that can play day 1....this draft will be recalled as the parade number 5 draft. 17: R1 P17 G Alijah Vera-Tucker - USC 42: R2 P10 LB Zaven Collins - Tulsa 48: R2 P16 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State 76: R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - NC State 116: R4 P11 WR D’Wayne Eskridge - Western Michigan 196: R6 P12 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin 201: R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis TRADES Trade Partner: Las Vegas Raiders Sent: Round 1 Pick 11 Received: Round 1 Pick 17 Round 2 Pick 16 He has to be on our radar in case Slater is gone..... Uurgh edit Tucker (you already bolded him ) |
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Post by nygfanstrick on Mar 22, 2021 12:04:56 GMT -5
Tried to mix it up early in the draft and throughout the draft and take as many new names as possible instead of me taking 85% the same players.
R1 P11 OT Rashawn Slater - Northwestern- With the FA signings a pick like this makes a lot more sense. I would certainly be open and thrilled if we still went after a WR in round one (or Pitts), but Slater would be able to a plug and play centerpiece for this OL. Probably the best OL on the team day one by a pretty wide margin. I think he will be an extremely good player and likely a consistent pro-bowler. Plug him at RT if we must or kick him inside at guard and sleep very well at night.
R2 P18 WR Terrace Marshall Jr. - LSU- LSU didn't have the year they normally do and I think it resulted in a few players on that team flying under the radar a bit. I think Marshall has the tools to be a very good WR. A WR trio of Golladay, Slayon, and Marshall would be very fun to watch. All WR's have some good size, can be a deep threat, etc.
R3 P12 EDGE Joe Tryon - Washington- I think he is one of the better edge prospects. I think due to covid some Pac-12 guys are flying under the radar a bit. I think he could be a really nice value pick for a team. I also wouldn't mind addressing edge in the 2nd round if the value is there. Personally, I don't see the value of taking one at 11 but if they LOVE someone I would have a hard time getting upset about it.
R3 P17 CB Ifeatu Melifonwu - Syracuse- In hopes we sign Adoree Jackson, whether it be 1 year or a couple years, this would give Ifeatu an opportunity to grow and develop under guys like Bradberry, Jackson, etc. Logan Ryan can have yet another rookie that he can help mold. I think given time he will be a very good pro and will benefit not "needing" to play day one and can develop
R4 P11 LB Jamin Davis - Kentucky - Very good LB prospect that will continue to rise. Him and Crowder battle it out for ILB 2 next to Martinez
R6 P12 OT Robert Jones - Middle Tennessee- OT depth. I think OL will be one of the weaker spots on the team so giving it as much depth as possible is ideal.
R6 P17 DL Mustafa Johnson - Colorado- DL option that I like. He had some good years with some production. Throw him into the DL rotation a bit to keep guys fresh.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 22, 2021 14:48:28 GMT -5
I've personally never been in the BBV boards, but because of your posts I have this picture in my head of all the posters there and how dumb they are. It's kind of funny whenever I see another post of yours and you drop in the BBV name There are a few knowledgeable posters there... its who I intermingle with... It's where those relics that want to go back to 1990 era Giants football all seemed to have gone...mainly because Ed is one of those people (he is the biggest Gettleman apologist I have ever seen and still blames Reese for why the team stinks ) Zierlein just mocked us Vera-Tucker |
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 22, 2021 14:51:49 GMT -5
There are a few knowledgeable posters there... its who I intermingle with... It's where those relics that want to go back to 1990 era Giants football all seemed to have gone...mainly because Ed is one of those people (he is the biggest Gettleman apologist I have ever seen and still blames Reese for why the team stinks ) Zierlein just mocked us Vera-Tucker The potential Zeitler replacement? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 22, 2021 14:58:32 GMT -5
Zierlein just mocked us Vera-Tucker The potential Zeitler replacement? Yep |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 15:00:24 GMT -5
There are a few knowledgeable posters there... its who I intermingle with... It's where those relics that want to go back to 1990 era Giants football all seemed to have gone...mainly because Ed is one of those people (he is the biggest Gettleman apologist I have ever seen and still blames Reese for why the team stinks ) Zierlein just mocked us Vera-Tucker Yeah, with Slater going to the Cowboys right before us....both players can play tackle or guard....Slater IMHO from watching the video is the better prospect, just unreal balance and feet. Darrisaw went after us, and then Waddle Honestly, I want that guy on OL badly as a day 1 starter, but I might take Waddle over Vera-Tucker in that scenario  Tough call |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 22, 2021 15:12:47 GMT -5
So if we sign Adoree Jackson, I would LOOOOOOOOOVE for the draft to play out like this
R1 P11 TE Kyle Pitts - Florida
R2 P10 RB Najee Harris - Alabama
R3 P12 G Jackson Carman - Clemson
R4 P11 EDGE Quincy Roche - Miami
R6 P12 DL Khyiris Tonga - BYU
R6 P17 WR Damonte Coxie - Memphis
This could go down as the best draft in history if it plays out like this. If it goes like this, DG would be tenured for life, LOL. SQB and Harris would be like Bradshaw and Jacobs times 1,000, our offense would be friggin PROLIFIC with all of these weapons
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 22, 2021 15:13:31 GMT -5
Zierlein just mocked us Vera-Tucker Yeah, with Slater going to the Cowboys right before us....both players can play tackle or guard....Slater IMHO from watching the video is the better prospect, just unreal balance and feet. Darrisaw went after us, and then Waddle Honestly, I want that guy on OL badly as a day 1 starter, but I might take Waddle over Vera-Tucker in that scenario Tough call Very tough call.. Alabama's pro day will say more... Waddle with all that room to operate underneath with Golladay and Slayton pushing the Safeties deep...ouch.. But making the O line a beast unit while getting Eskridge or Atwell later. Ouch |
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