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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 12:25:10 GMT -5
beyond tired of engram and sheppard and these dudes who've done absolutely nothing in years. engram, the supposedly great wildly talented TE....the most overhyped player weve had in recent memory, dude has done NOTHING. nothing but drop the ball over and over again. does he even tight end, bro? ive seen nothing resembling an nfl te like ever from him. sheppard, seems like a nice kid, but another dude i barely ever see get separation, like ever. meh. keep slayton and get kaden smith in there, and then wipe out the rest of em. lol not sure of the cap implications for Shep and Engram. If they are not too bad they will both be off the roster next year. Maybe a trade but I am not informed enough to know the issues with that as well. Bottom line is they are been tried and proven not valuable enough Both Tate and Shepard could be relatively easy cap casualties... If we need an instant playmaker to Jumpstart this offense and at the very least provide a complimentary player of Slayton's skillsets and abilities,and doesn’t force a panic pick in tbe draft that would be a reach,sign Gallup..his cap number would be less both Tate and Shepard and give us a perfect system fit..
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 8, 2020 12:26:32 GMT -5
Im not exagerating at all. Im telling you what I SEE you are doing. Apparently your to blinded by hate to see your acting like a fool and Im trying to get you to stop. Oh well some are quicker some are thicker. You dont even know what exagerating is apparently. SMH Sad Very Sad I am just telling you everyone out here is seeing what you are doing with your exaggerations. I thought you were doing it on purpose and I still think you are since nobody can be this stupid and be able to operate a computer but then there are outliers so that where we can place you.. Congrats to you for overcoming your issues to participate out here. Can you now fix the Oline next year after failing for 3 years?? Oh wait you'll probably be gone thank god! What exagerations/ Im not out catching 6inch trout and telling you they a 50 foot long. That is exagerating. You just cant stand that I disagrere with you on just about everything and you cant put up any type of defense for your though process. You basically talk shit with nothing to back it up. I didnt want to go here but you just dont seem to get it. You cant seem to understands the hints I have given you to back off because you look foolish commenting on every little thing I post. Now THERE is that clear enough for you. My God im trying to reason with a guy who doesnt even know what exageration actually means
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:27:48 GMT -5
not sure of the cap implications for Shep and Engram. If they are not too bad they will both be off the roster next year. Maybe a trade but I am not informed enough to know the issues with that as well. Bottom line is they are been tried and proven not valuable enough Both Tate and Shepard could be relatively easy cap casualties... If we need an instant playmaker to Jumpstart this offense and at the very least provide a complimentary player of Slayton's skillsets and abilities,and doesn’t force a panic pick in tbe draft that would be a reach,sign Gallup..his cap number would be less both Tate and Shepard and give us a perfect system fit.. What is Gallup's cap number going to be and more importantly why would he elect to come to this team if it isn't for a bunch of cash?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:31:44 GMT -5
I am just telling you everyone out here is seeing what you are doing with your exaggerations. I thought you were doing it on purpose and I still think you are since nobody can be this stupid and be able to operate a computer but then there are outliers so that where we can place you.. Congrats to you for overcoming your issues to participate out here. Can you now fix the Oline next year after failing for 3 years?? Oh wait you'll probably be gone thank god! What exagerations/ Im not out catching 6inch trout and telling you they a 50 foot long. That is exagerating. You just cant stand that I disagrere with you on just about everything and you cant put up any type of defense for your though process. You basically talk shit with nothing to back it up. I didnt want to go here but you just dont seem to get it. You cant seem to understands the hints I have given you to back off because you look foolish commenting on every little thing I post. Now THERE is that clear enough for you. My God im trying to reason with a guy who doesnt even know what exageration actually means Still continuing with the exaggerations.. Well done since this has to be your agenda.. Pretty funny and surprisingly clever coming from you.. The big question is why is it so hard for you to not feed the "TROLL of TROLLS?? Expecting it to continue in 3,2,1
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Post by GameTime on Oct 8, 2020 12:33:15 GMT -5
Both Tate and Shepard could be relatively easy cap casualties... If we need an instant playmaker to Jumpstart this offense and at the very least provide a complimentary player of Slayton's skillsets and abilities,and doesn’t force a panic pick in tbe draft that would be a reach,sign Gallup..his cap number would be less both Tate and Shepard and give us a perfect system fit.. What is Gallup's cap number going to be and more importantly why would he elect to come to this team if it isn't for a bunch of cash? Because Joe Judge and Dan Jones are future shining stars of course....( I hope)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:35:38 GMT -5
Thinking about this post a bit more and standing by not liking engram at all, and thinking man, we reeeeeeally could use an actual nfl tight end, remember tight ends? like when they catch the ball and then run with the football, smashing through backs oftentimes even right up the middle. sigh they even score touchdowns sometimes. I miss that. tight ends and touchdowns my good people
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 8, 2020 12:36:17 GMT -5
What exagerations/ Im not out catching 6inch trout and telling you they a 50 foot long. That is exagerating. You just cant stand that I disagrere with you on just about everything and you cant put up any type of defense for your though process. You basically talk shit with nothing to back it up. I didnt want to go here but you just dont seem to get it. You cant seem to understands the hints I have given you to back off because you look foolish commenting on every little thing I post. Now THERE is that clear enough for you. My God im trying to reason with a guy who doesnt even know what exageration actually means Still continuing with the exaggerations.. Well done since this has to be your agenda.. Pretty funny and surprisingly clever coming from you.. The big question is why is it so hard for you to not feed the "TROLL of TROLLS?? Expecting it to continue in 3,2,1 Is there an "IGNORE BUTTON" on this site. This guy is insufferable, he just doesnt understand, well anything. Keep following me around and inserting yourself in "RUDELY" inserting yourself into a 2 way convo. Its ok we know you need the attention to feel good about yourself.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 8, 2020 12:38:34 GMT -5
alright lets get back to being semi civil Giants fans. Lets try to cut the BS for the good of the board.
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 8, 2020 12:39:41 GMT -5
alright lets get back to being semi civil Giants fans. Lets try to cut the BS for the good of the board. Thanks. GT Thank You GT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:43:13 GMT -5
alright lets get back to being semi civil Giants fans. Lets try to cut the BS for the good of the board. Thanks. GT Thank You GT You just don't get it.. Thanks for the laugh.. What are some of you're other usernames that have been banned??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:44:36 GMT -5
Thinking about this post a bit more and standing by not liking engram at all, and thinking man, we reeeeeeally could use an actual nfl tight end, remember tight ends? like when they catch the ball and then run with the football, smashing through backs oftentimes even right up the middle. sigh they even score touchdowns sometimes. I miss that. tight ends and touchdowns my good people I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:46:18 GMT -5
What is Gallup's cap number going to be and more importantly why would he elect to come to this team if it isn't for a bunch of cash? Because Joe Judge and Dan Jones are future shining stars of course....( I hope) I hope these two can bring some players here but more importantly a lot of wins for this team!! That would help immensely..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 12:52:21 GMT -5
Thinking about this post a bit more and standing by not liking engram at all, and thinking man, we reeeeeeally could use an actual nfl tight end, remember tight ends? like when they catch the ball and then run with the football, smashing through backs oftentimes even right up the middle. sigh they even score touchdowns sometimes. I miss that. tight ends and touchdowns my good people I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year.. i feel the same, is he getting enough touches to even tell? i still hold out more hope for smith than engram but honestly its hard to tell so far
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 12:53:37 GMT -5
Both Tate and Shepard could be relatively easy cap casualties... If we need an instant playmaker to Jumpstart this offense and at the very least provide a complimentary player of Slayton's skillsets and abilities,and doesn’t force a panic pick in tbe draft that would be a reach,sign Gallup..his cap number would be less both Tate and Shepard and give us a perfect system fit.. What is Gallup's cap number going to be and more importantly why would he elect to come to this team if it isn't for a bunch of cash? Probably going to be gag reflex inducing (the 4 year 62 million variety) Why would he stay in Dallas when they will be over the cap,he knows the system we run,potentially a young upcoming team People have to stop thinking nobody wants to come here narrative...there are only 32 jobs out there Now take away most of the teams that addressed WRs in the draft,teams in cap hell If I'm a FA wr this is actually a desired spot with how barren our group is..
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 12:56:30 GMT -5
Thinking about this post a bit more and standing by not liking engram at all, and thinking man, we reeeeeeally could use an actual nfl tight end, remember tight ends? like when they catch the ball and then run with the football, smashing through backs oftentimes even right up the middle. sigh they even score touchdowns sometimes. I miss that. tight ends and touchdowns my good people I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year.. I still think he has it Remember these first 4 weeks were basically an on the job preseason situation I also think the lack of an offseason/preseason has affected our TEs badly on all levels because they all look confused and hesitant
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Post by McCherry on Oct 8, 2020 13:04:04 GMT -5
beyond tired of engram and sheppard and these dudes who've done absolutely nothing in years. engram, the supposedly great wildly talented TE....the most overhyped player weve had in recent memory, dude has done NOTHING. nothing but drop the ball over and over again. does he even tight end, bro? ive seen nothing resembling an nfl te like ever from him. sheppard, seems like a nice kid, but another dude i barely ever see get separation, like ever. meh. keep slayton and get kaden smith in there, and then wipe out the rest of em. lol I don't know where people get that Engram has done nothing in his career. Before this year his production was consistent with the top TE's in football. He's struggled this year and has been an injury washout, but the guy produced when healthy in the past. Same for Shepard. Who knows if he will every stay healthy either, but injuries are the only thing separating him from a successful career.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 13:11:52 GMT -5
What is Gallup's cap number going to be and more importantly why would he elect to come to this team if it isn't for a bunch of cash? Probably going to be gag reflex inducing (the 4 year 62 million variety) Why would he stay in Dallas when they will be over the cap,he knows the system we run,potentially a young upcoming team People have to stop thinking nobody wants to come here narrative...there are only 32 jobs out there Now take away most of the teams that addressed WRs in the draft,teams in cap hell If I'm a FA wr this is actually a desired spot with how barren our group is.. I think it's fair to say that any FA worth it will rather finish their careers on a winning team. As for this being a desired place due to the glaring holes I feel that only applies to the ones coming off injuries and need a prove it year or two otherwise the good ones will have other teams interested and not be concerned about getting playing time..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 13:14:03 GMT -5
I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year.. I still think he has it Remember these first 4 weeks were basically an on the job preseason situation I also think the lack of an offseason/preseason has affected our TEs badly on all levels because they all look confused and hesitant I get a game or two but when the team is struggling this bad why haven't they tried to get him more involved by now. It would also seem that your excuse is pointing towards the coaches failing..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 13:15:53 GMT -5
I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year.. i feel the same, is he getting enough touches to even tell? i still hold out more hope for smith than engram but honestly its hard to tell so far If the team was doing well then don't try to get him more involved but after a couple of games they need to try something different..
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 8, 2020 13:19:28 GMT -5
Im sorry if my statement about patience sounded like it was directed at you. It wasnt. I actually think your one of the more sensible posters on this site It was a blanket statement. If you understand about young receivers than Glaring Hole at WR isnt the correct description. Lack of experience would be the correct terminology. We have a lot of WR's they are young and developing. They are all part of the plan for this team going forward. This team is being built the right way and it isnt made to win this season. This season is all about implementing Judges plan for the future NOT NOW. Wins and Losses are irrelevant at this point in his plan. It is about getting everyone playing as a team, implementing the FULL PLAYBOOKS, slowly learning how to trust on another on and off the field. Executing the plays as a team. This all takes time. Nothing rushed ever works long term, Judge understands this. Im ecstatic with the way this is going because the improvement from week to week is great. Next season is when Judges plan will be fully implemented. Not this season I agree with 95% of this but what young recievers that had a realistic chance were added to this team other than Slayton since 2018? I agree you don't need a bunch of all pro number 1s as long as your fleet of recievers as a group can threaten every inch of field and force defenses to defende the entire field (I keep repeating the Chiefs don't have a true number 1,Hill would get snuffed out if he were cast as a true number 1.but they overwhelm teams with athletic ability and Kelcey,which is why they now have become virtually unbeatable because they now have a stud 3 down back that they can go run heavy,slow the game down and cause opposing teams even more stress on every level knowing the Chiefs are still going to score on 75% of their drives and now have less possessions to keep up) Like I said even a 6th on Quez Watkins adds another potential Slayton clone and is a fit for this offense.... We have a bunch of at best useless possession type recievers that can be sit on and snuffed with little difficulty opposite the only threat we have on this team,and teams are now taking Slayton away with relative ease because we have nothing else... The only guy at this point id be trying to develop is Ratley because he has a skilset that can make him a moderate deep threat... Ok I can totally see your point and it is well noted. Did I say we need a WR in this draft to open up the Offense? Yes I did, but and even now I can see why Gettleman didn't jump on one in the draft. Going into the draft we had more pressing needs/holes that needed to be filled. Specifically O-Line and MLB. Everyone was screaming for a Superior Pass Rusher and a Superior WR. Those are the type players you get after your team is 95% there and are a real threat to go to the Super Bowl. Evaluating the personal we had on the roster, we had a good amount of Wideouts, were they Superior ones, no they were adequate though, and numbers of them were plenty. Pass Rushers, Gettleman and Judge said from the get go that the pass rush will be by committee. The way it is going it appears they were right. This team has a pass rush. I was telling my brother we had a sufficient amount of young guys on this roster to have a descent Pass Rush before the draft to not be surprised if we don't draft one in the early rounds. Again I will repeat WE HAVE A NICE PASS RUSH. Getting back to receiver, going into the Draft we Had Bodies wise plenty of adequate/serviceable receivers to field and have backups in reserve. They were young and still learning but with the amount we had and with FA's and releases it wasn't a pressing hole that had to be filled With what Judge has said since day 1 that this whole plan he has, was going to take time, and there is no overnight fix, we had the receivers to go forward with his plan this season. O-line and ILB/MLB whatever you want to call them were a pressing need. Especially to stop the bleeding in the Middle Of The Field we have all witnessed for so long, and was never a priority to really fix. Apparently Judge saw it as priority. Judge and Gettleman apparently prioritized LB and O-line coming into this draft, By the time they were happy or somewhat pleased with those positions, it might have seemed that the receivers that were left didn't meet the round/value to where one lined up for their position to pick. I'm sure and I would put my last dollar on it, that Both Judge and Gettleman know we are weak at WR. But for what Judge wants to accomplish this season with his, plan, he felt they are good enough (THIS SEASON) to move forward with the plan. O-line and LB were the priorities for the draft. because without them It would have probably been harder for Judge to accomplish what he wanted to this season and with his plan/vision for this team in the future. Also it seem we more or less have fixed both problem areas. Can they get better YES and I'm sure they will move in a different direction/player. Patience is what is needed because I see great thing for this team going forward Sorry for the long post, I could have went longer but I think you will get the gist of it
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Post by McCherry on Oct 8, 2020 13:26:06 GMT -5
I really though they had that with Smith after how he finished the season but that isn't working out this year.. I still think he has it Remember these first 4 weeks were basically an on the job preseason situation I also think the lack of an offseason/preseason has affected our TEs badly on all levels because they all look confused and hesitant They haven't even been able to get Slayton, Engram or Barkley involved. Or even Daniel Jones for that matter. 4 weeks, they're still putting the offense together, give it some time. Kaden Smith will make his mark eventually. Like you said, people demand instant gratification for a team with a new staff and no offseason. It's been 4 games, we already have people ready to call Thomas a bust.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 13:33:55 GMT -5
I agree with 95% of this but what young recievers that had a realistic chance were added to this team other than Slayton since 2018? I agree you don't need a bunch of all pro number 1s as long as your fleet of recievers as a group can threaten every inch of field and force defenses to defende the entire field (I keep repeating the Chiefs don't have a true number 1,Hill would get snuffed out if he were cast as a true number 1.but they overwhelm teams with athletic ability and Kelcey,which is why they now have become virtually unbeatable because they now have a stud 3 down back that they can go run heavy,slow the game down and cause opposing teams even more stress on every level knowing the Chiefs are still going to score on 75% of their drives and now have less possessions to keep up) Like I said even a 6th on Quez Watkins adds another potential Slayton clone and is a fit for this offense.... We have a bunch of at best useless possession type recievers that can be sit on and snuffed with little difficulty opposite the only threat we have on this team,and teams are now taking Slayton away with relative ease because we have nothing else... The only guy at this point id be trying to develop is Ratley because he has a skilset that can make him a moderate deep threat... Ok I can totally see your point and it is well noted. Did I say we need a WR in this draft to open up the Offense? Yes I did, but and even now I can see why Gettleman didnt jump on one in the draft. Going into the draft we had more pressing needs/holes that needed to be filled. Specifically O-Line and MLB. Everyone was screaming for a Superior Pass Rusher and a Superior WR. Those are the type players you get after your team is 95% there and are a real threat to go to the Super Bowl. Evaluating the personal we had on the roster, we had a good amount of Wideouts, were they Superior ones, no they were adequate though, and numbers of them were plenty. Pass Rushers, Gettleman and Judge said from the get go that the pass rush will be by committee. The way it is going it appears they were right. This team has a pass rush. I was telling my brother we had a sufficent amount of young guys on this roster to have a descent Pass Rush before the draft to not be surprised if we dont draft one in the early rounds. Again I will repeat WE HAVE A NICE PASS RUSH. Getting back to receiver, going into the Draft we Had Bodies wise plenty of adequate/serviceable receivers to field and have backups in reserve. They were young and still learning but with the amount we had and with FA's and releases it wasnt a pressing hole that had to be filled With what Judge has said since day 1 that this whole plan he has, was going to take time, and there is no overnight fix, we had the receivers to go forward with his plan this season. O-line and ILB/MLB whatever you want to call them were a pressing need. Especially to stop the bleeding in the Middle Of The Field we have all witnessed for so long, and was never a priority to really fix. Apparently Judge saw it as priority. Judge and Gettleman apparently prioritized LB and O-line coming into this draft, By the time they were happy or somewhat pleased with those positions, it might have seemed that the receivers that were left didnt meet the round/value to where one lined up for their position to pick. Im sure and I would put my last dollar on it, that Both Judge and Gettleman know we are weak at WR. But for what Judge wants to accomplish this season with his, plan, he felt they are good enough (THIS SEASON) to move forward with the plan. O-line and LB were the priorities for the draft. because without them I would have probably been harder for Judge to accompolish what he wanted to this season and with his plan/vision for this team in the future. Also it seem we more or less have fixed both problem areas. Can they get better YES and Im sure they will or move in a different direction/player. Patience is what is needed because I see great thing for this team going forward Sorry for the long post, I could have went longer but I think you will get the gist of it My only issue is that they had drafts to address replacing the dynamic playmaker we lost with the Odell trade,especially as it seems Shurmur and Gettleman were all in on a new QB (Jones) Instead of the trade up stay put Get either Metcalf of McClaren in the 2nd along with Slayton...think of the upgrade there We have our 4th and 5th rounders to add depth elsewhere.. We now lost probably a year of Jone's development on his rookie deal because of badly thinking our below average playmakers other than Slayton is good enough and now hoping for a miracle that a Ratley or Board can have a miracle 12 games ..
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 8, 2020 13:42:22 GMT -5
Ok I can totally see your point and it is well noted. Did I say we need a WR in this draft to open up the Offense? Yes I did, but and even now I can see why Gettleman didnt jump on one in the draft. Going into the draft we had more pressing needs/holes that needed to be filled. Specifically O-Line and MLB. Everyone was screaming for a Superior Pass Rusher and a Superior WR. Those are the type players you get after your team is 95% there and are a real threat to go to the Super Bowl. Evaluating the personal we had on the roster, we had a good amount of Wideouts, were they Superior ones, no they were adequate though, and numbers of them were plenty. Pass Rushers, Gettleman and Judge said from the get go that the pass rush will be by committee. The way it is going it appears they were right. This team has a pass rush. I was telling my brother we had a sufficent amount of young guys on this roster to have a descent Pass Rush before the draft to not be surprised if we dont draft one in the early rounds. Again I will repeat WE HAVE A NICE PASS RUSH. Getting back to receiver, going into the Draft we Had Bodies wise plenty of adequate/serviceable receivers to field and have backups in reserve. They were young and still learning but with the amount we had and with FA's and releases it wasnt a pressing hole that had to be filled With what Judge has said since day 1 that this whole plan he has, was going to take time, and there is no overnight fix, we had the receivers to go forward with his plan this season. O-line and ILB/MLB whatever you want to call them were a pressing need. Especially to stop the bleeding in the Middle Of The Field we have all witnessed for so long, and was never a priority to really fix. Apparently Judge saw it as priority. Judge and Gettleman apparently prioritized LB and O-line coming into this draft, By the time they were happy or somewhat pleased with those positions, it might have seemed that the receivers that were left didnt meet the round/value to where one lined up for their position to pick. Im sure and I would put my last dollar on it, that Both Judge and Gettleman know we are weak at WR. But for what Judge wants to accomplish this season with his, plan, he felt they are good enough (THIS SEASON) to move forward with the plan. O-line and LB were the priorities for the draft. because without them I would have probably been harder for Judge to accompolish what he wanted to this season and with his plan/vision for this team in the future. Also it seem we more or less have fixed both problem areas. Can they get better YES and Im sure they will or move in a different direction/player. Patience is what is needed because I see great thing for this team going forward Sorry for the long post, I could have went longer but I think you will get the gist of it My only issue is that they had drafts to address replacing the dynamic playmaker we lost with the Odell trade,especially as it seems Shurmur and Gettleman were all in on a new QB (Jones) Instead of the trade up stay put Get either Metcalf of McClaren in the 2nd along with Slayton...think of the upgrade there We have our 4th and 5th rounders to add depth elsewhere.. We now lost probably a year of Jone's development on his rookie deal because of badly thinking our below average playmakers other than Slayton is good enough and now hoping for a miracle that a Ratley or Board can have a miracle 12 games .. Ok and I agree, but, Judge is no Shurmur, Shurmur I would have been surprised if he had a plan frm week to week or even day to day. Judge's first presser he said dont ask me about players because the first thing I have to do is EVALUATE every aspect of the way the Office and team is run. After my evealution I will implement a plan, A Long Term Plan to have not only have seasonal success but LONG TERM SUCCESS. Key Word Long term. He reiterated that it will not be an over night fix, it wont even be a quick fix, It will be however a Long Term Fix that is going to take time. Please dont expect me to be able to inpplement my plan and by week 1 or 4 or week 25 it will be done. That isnt the way it is. TIME It going to take time. That speech told me from day 1 that this guy knows what he wants to do and he know what it takes to do it. Shurmur isnt a pimple on Joe Judges ass as far as building a long term successful organization. Forget about anything prior to Judge being hired. I know it hard to do -- Its very hard to do, but that it the way it is
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 8, 2020 13:55:14 GMT -5
I still think he has it Remember these first 4 weeks were basically an on the job preseason situation I also think the lack of an offseason/preseason has affected our TEs badly on all levels because they all look confused and hesitant I get a game or two but when the team is struggling this bad why haven't they tried to get him more involved by now. It would also seem that your excuse is pointing towards the coaches failing.. Kitchens is our TEs coach, right? That's a major, major demotion - like a CEO now mopping the floor. What type job effort should we expect from that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 14:10:35 GMT -5
I get a game or two but when the team is struggling this bad why haven't they tried to get him more involved by now. It would also seem that your excuse is pointing towards the coaches failing.. Kitchens is our TEs coach, right? That's a major, major demotion - like a CEO now mopping the floor. What type job effort should we expect from that? Point taken!!
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 14:26:30 GMT -5
I get a game or two but when the team is struggling this bad why haven't they tried to get him more involved by now. It would also seem that your excuse is pointing towards the coaches failing.. Kitchens is our TEs coach, right? That's a major, major demotion - like a CEO now mopping the floor. What type job effort should we expect from that? Is it really a demotion that is a bad thing? He was highly sought after by Judge and has ties,and I suspect he also has a hand in helping Garrett with the offense with the purpose of possibly being groomed to eventually succeed Garrett when/if he moves on... Coaches don't half ass jobs when there are opportunities to build a resume as well
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Post by McCherry on Oct 8, 2020 17:32:34 GMT -5
Kitchens is our TEs coach, right? That's a major, major demotion - like a CEO now mopping the floor. What type job effort should we expect from that? Is it really a demotion that is a bad thing? He was highly sought after by Judge and has ties,and I suspect he also has a hand in helping Garrett with the offense with the purpose of possibly being groomed to eventually succeed Garrett when/if he moves on... Coaches don't half ass jobs when there are opportunities to build a resume as well Having a former head coach as a position coach is as good as it gets in terms of knowledge and experience.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -5
Its well known how I really don't want to spend on WRs with how many come out in the draft every year,but because Gettleman went full George Young with only throwing crumbs at the position (think about how luck we are that his one crumb Slayton looks like a God send right now),we are in this position Even more negligent knowing we were looking to replace Eli I'm actually jettisoning both Tate and Shepard...health and bad scheme fits Gallup isn't listed and he is a no brainer for a FA... Knows Garrett's system so no learning curve...over the top deep threat,good route runner Not a number 1 ..but having 2 complimentary high end number 2 types(which is where I think Slayton ends up)that can take the top off the defense immediately helps the entire offense..takes players out of tbe box,less stress on the O line (which hopefully has improved to being a good young unit by 2021) And also doesn't force whomever is making our draft decisions into a reach early and less panic moves later in the draft. Definitely need at least one in tbe draft very early this year,again,dynamic playmaking game changing ability needs to be the attributes(route running,speed,catch radius,post catch WR and pass rusher are the top needs, you focus on them with the cap space and where it looks like we're headed with some high draft picks. Shepard's not going anywhere if he's healthy. Shepard is just as much a bust as the rest of them. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if the only one that returned was Slayton.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 9, 2020 8:14:31 GMT -5
Kitchens is our TEs coach, right? That's a major, major demotion - like a CEO now mopping the floor. What type job effort should we expect from that? Is it really a demotion that is a bad thing? He was highly sought after by Judge and has ties,and I suspect he also has a hand in helping Garrett with the offense with the purpose of possibly being groomed to eventually succeed Garrett when/if he moves on... Coaches don't half ass jobs when there are opportunities to build a resume as well Well, our TE unit appears to have regressed - even though they're healthy now. We can keep blaming it on our putrid receivers, or Covid, or... just look at what's in front of us.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 9, 2020 8:18:12 GMT -5
Is it really a demotion that is a bad thing? He was highly sought after by Judge and has ties,and I suspect he also has a hand in helping Garrett with the offense with the purpose of possibly being groomed to eventually succeed Garrett when/if he moves on... Coaches don't half ass jobs when there are opportunities to build a resume as well Having a former head coach as a position coach is as good as it gets in terms of knowledge and experience. It can, depending on the circumstances. Kitchens was given only one season, declared a failure league wide, and as I said - this is a major demotion, to the worst team in football no less.
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