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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:09:41 GMT -5
All I see is people talking about who is good, who is not good....especially about that damn WR squad. Look, it’s like this....nobody is scoring. Slayton is the only one remotely contributing to that factor. I don’t see Shepard putting any points on the board. Tate? I don’t even want to get started on that. Engram? That’s a sore subject on it’s own. Why is it so hard to figure out? Why do guys keep analyzing this crap over and over again trying to find something we missed? Guys, we didn’t miss anything. Our WRs are not good. They are shit. Our running backs are shit as well. The offensive skill positions are filled by nothing but a bunch of #3 players at best. The numbers prove it. Stop acting like Jones has something to work with, because he doesn’t. Everybody is down on Jones for the INTs. That’s crap guys. How many times does he move our crippled asses down the field. Good things happen with him leading our team and all some of you can think about is how our WRs contribute and how wonderful it would be if Shepard was back healthy. What the hell games are y’all watching? Daniel Jones needs ballers and despite the fact the the oline is shitty still, it’s a tad bit better than last year and if we had some friggin ballers, we would have BEEN scored a bunch of times already! We keep Jones! Jones goes nowhere, period! Somebody needs to learn how to sign talent at the skill positions. That’s my rant.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 8, 2020 19:12:54 GMT -5
All I see is people talking about who is good, who is not good....especially about that damn WR squad. Look, it’s like this....nobody is scoring. Slayton is the only one remotely contributing to that factor. I don’t see Shepard putting any points on the board. Tate? I don’t even want to get started on that. Engram? That’s a sore subject on it’s own. Why is it so hard to figure out? Why do guys keep analyzing this crap over and over again trying to find something we missed? Guys, we didn’t miss anything. Our WRs are not good. They are shit. Our running backs are shit as well. The offensive skill positions are filled by nothing but a bunch of #3 players at best. The numbers prove it. Stop acting like Jones has something to work with, because he doesn’t. Everybody is down on Jones for the INTs. That’s crap guys. How many times does he move our crippled asses down the field. Good things happen with him leading our team and all some of you can think about is how our WRs contribute and how wonderful it would be if Shepard was back healthy. What the hell games are y’all watching? Daniel Jones needs ballers and despite the fact the the oline is shitty still, it’s a tad bit better than last year and if we had some friggin ballers, we would have BEEN scored a bunch of times already! We keep Jones! Jones goes nowhere, period! Somebody needs to learn how to sign talent at the skill positions. That’s my rant. Have a Snickers and learn about paragraphs? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:14:28 GMT -5
All I see is people talking about who is good, who is not good....especially about that damn WR squad. Look, it’s like this....nobody is scoring. Slayton is the only one remotely contributing to that factor. I don’t see Shepard putting any points on the board. Tate? I don’t even want to get started on that. Engram? That’s a sore subject on it’s own. Why is it so hard to figure out? Why do guys keep analyzing this crap over and over again trying to find something we missed? Guys, we didn’t miss anything. Our WRs are not good. They are shit. Our running backs are shit as well. The offensive skill positions are filled by nothing but a bunch of #3 players at best. The numbers prove it. Stop acting like Jones has something to work with, because he doesn’t. Everybody is down on Jones for the INTs. That’s crap guys. How many times does he move our crippled asses down the field. Good things happen with him leading our team and all some of you can think about is how our WRs contribute and how wonderful it would be if Shepard was back healthy. What the hell games are y’all watching? Daniel Jones needs ballers and despite the fact the the oline is shitty still, it’s a tad bit better than last year and if we had some friggin ballers, we would have BEEN scored a bunch of times already! We keep Jones! Jones goes nowhere, period! Somebody needs to learn how to sign talent at the skill positions. That’s my rant. Have a Snickers and learn about paragraphs? Stop acting like you can’t read...this ain’t English class. |
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Post by ocgiant on Oct 8, 2020 19:39:29 GMT -5
It's been mentioned before, what is missing are playmakers which I considered SB to be one before he got hurt as for the other RB by committee which just seem adequate to me; although I liked the run by Gallman for 26 yards last week aginst the Rams.
After that I not so sure if you look at Engram he has not played to the level the Giants or fans expected and as for the rest of the WRs pretty much nothing.
I still think DJ is trying to do too much and at time his legs have helped him for some positive yardage but he does not seem comforatble in the pocket now sometimes he is running for his life lastly he telegraphs where he is throwing so turnovers continue to be an issue. So with a combination of things happening it is not all on DJ but on the ocasions that the OL stepped up and gave time he did not deliver and that is what is keeping the question mark over his head.
I like DJ so I trust he can develop and figure things out and progresses the rest of the season; if not, then the Trevor Lawerence chants are going to get louder as the weeks go by.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 8, 2020 19:46:20 GMT -5
-Eli thread from a few years ago
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 8, 2020 19:48:22 GMT -5
Have a Snickers and learn about paragraphs? Stop acting like you can’t read...this ain’t English class. Sorry, I'm never going to read long "wall of text" posts. IMO, lazy posters equal lazy thoughts and logic. Seriously, is it too hard to hit a return key twice occasionally? It's literally the biggest key on most keyboards. For a reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:53:16 GMT -5
Stop acting like you can’t read...this ain’t English class. Sorry, I'm never going to read long "wall of text" posts. IMO, lazy posters equal lazy thoughts and logic. Seriously, is it too hard to hit a return key twice occasionally? It's literally the biggest key on most keyboards. For a reason. There’s plenty of posts worse than mine out there. I guess you don’t read them either....which is cool...who gives a shit? Right? But, you feel the need to make a stupid comment instead of saying to yourself, “I’m not participating in this one” and moving on. Let me break the news to you... nobody is impressed with what you just did. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:54:14 GMT -5
-Eli thread from a few years ago How so? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:55:33 GMT -5
Donny's ornery today!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 19:56:59 GMT -5
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 8, 2020 19:58:52 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm never going to read long "wall of text" posts. IMO, lazy posters equal lazy thoughts and logic. Seriously, is it too hard to hit a return key twice occasionally? It's literally the biggest key on most keyboards. For a reason. There’s plenty of posts worse than mine out there. I guess you don’t read them either....which is cool...who gives a shit? Right? But, you feel the need to make a stupid comment instead of saying to yourself, “I’m not participating in this one” and moving on. Let me break the news to you... nobody is impressed with what you just did. I don't care. You are correct I don't read any long walls-of-text, not just yours. It's not personal, and I've posted this many times in the past. Just some advice - if you want people to take your opinion seriously, make it easier for them to understand it. Just MO. |
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 8, 2020 19:59:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 20:05:20 GMT -5
There’s plenty of posts worse than mine out there. I guess you don’t read them either....which is cool...who gives a shit? Right? But, you feel the need to make a stupid comment instead of saying to yourself, “I’m not participating in this one” and moving on. Let me break the news to you... nobody is impressed with what you just did. I don't care. You are correct I don't read any long walls-of-text, not just yours. It's not personal, and I've posted this many times in the past. Just some advice - if you want people to take your opinion seriously, make it easier for them to understand it. Just MO. Doesn’t seem to me like too many other people are having an issue with it. Maybe some others...but there are people who are reading it and understanding it. You can see for yourself, sooo... |
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 8, 2020 20:06:54 GMT -5
I don't care. You are correct I don't read any long walls-of-text, not just yours. It's not personal, and I've posted this many times in the past. Just some advice - if you want people to take your opinion seriously, make it easier for them to understand it. Just MO. Doesn’t seem to me like too many other people are having an issue with it. Maybe some others...but there are people who are reading it and understanding it. You can see for yourself, sooo... You keep doing you. Never change. 😉 |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 8, 2020 20:08:45 GMT -5
-Eli thread from a few years ago How so? After years of Eli playing terribly, the excuses were draining. He didn't have WRs. He didn't have a run game. He didn't have an OL. He didn't have a defense. His coaching was bad. Ect. Then I'd watch Eli throw an INT to a defensive end on a screen pass for a pick 6. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 20:08:59 GMT -5
Doesn’t seem to me like too many other people are having an issue with it. Maybe some others...but there are people who are reading it and understanding it. You can see for yourself, sooo... You keep doing you. Never change. 😉 Works for me. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 8, 2020 20:12:44 GMT -5
If this team had any semblance of an offense, it would be 3-1. Jones has made his share of bad decisions, and there are things he needs to correct, but ask yourself this...how many times do you see a throw to a receiver who is clearly and cleanly open? How many times does the offensive line push the opposing line off the LOS, and create a clear running lane?
I'm not making apologies for Jones, he has also had plays to be made that he hasn't. He has made some bad throws and decisions. But he is working with arguably the worst collection of offensive players in the NFL.
Welcome back to Duke.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 7:06:59 GMT -5
We have a 16 game QB who is and will make mistakes mixed in with a team of other young guys making mistakes along with a rookie head coach.
Thats a combo meal that will make any roster sick
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 7:10:12 GMT -5
Below id from the recent Jason Garrett presser:
Q: Years ago, the common wisdom was that it took a quarterback several years before he really kind of showed what he could do and what he was. The last couple of years, we've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of develop really quickly and almost show it immediately. Do you think that the timeline for development of young quarterbacks is now quicker than it used to be?
A: Oh, I think it's a long discussion. I think the way the salary cap is and the way rosters are structured, a lot of young players are making teams now, and maybe they wouldn't have before. A lot of young players at all positions are playing earlier than they would have before. It's just the nature of how the salary cap works and how rosters are structured, and that's probably been in place for at least the last 10 years, and maybe longer than that. In regards to the quarterback position, that's been a great debate through the years. I don't think there's any question that the more recent trend is that if you draft a guy high, you typically want to play him early. What I would say going back really throughout at least the recent history in the NFL, typically, quarterbacks play best when they're in a really good environment. That's younger quarterbacks and that's older quarterbacks. What everyone's trying to do in an organization is create a good environment for their quarterback and give them a good supporting cast. Typically, it's a strong offensive line, it's playmakers outside, it's a good run game. I think those things help that quarterback transition more smoothly. If he's in a situation where he's carrying too much of a burden early on because the team is young and in their rebuilding stage, sometimes it's a little bit harder for that guy to transition. I think that's probably a common denominator for a lot of guys. Sometimes quarterbacks have to take their lumps because they're really in the ground floor of the rebuilding process. The best ones I've been around have come out the other end of those experiences. Sometimes the transition happens smoother because the team is further along in their cycle of rebuilding, and that quarterback comes into that environment and is that much better.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 9, 2020 7:30:42 GMT -5
Below id from the recent Jason Garrett presser:
Q: Years ago, the common wisdom was that it took a quarterback several years before he really kind of showed what he could do and what he was. The last couple of years, we've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of develop really quickly and almost show it immediately. Do you think that the timeline for development of young quarterbacks is now quicker than it used to be?A: Oh, I think it's a long discussion. I think the way the salary cap is and the way rosters are structured, a lot of young players are making teams now, and maybe they wouldn't have before. A lot of young players at all positions are playing earlier than they would have before. It's just the nature of how the salary cap works and how rosters are structured, and that's probably been in place for at least the last 10 years, and maybe longer than that. In regards to the quarterback position, that's been a great debate through the years. I don't think there's any question that the more recent trend is that if you draft a guy high, you typically want to play him early. What I would say going back really throughout at least the recent history in the NFL, typically, quarterbacks play best when they're in a really good environment. That's younger quarterbacks and that's older quarterbacks. What everyone's trying to do in an organization is create a good environment for their quarterback and give them a good supporting cast. Typically, it's a strong offensive line, it's playmakers outside, it's a good run game. I think those things help that quarterback transition more smoothly. If he's in a situation where he's carrying too much of a burden early on because the team is young and in their rebuilding stage, sometimes it's a little bit harder for that guy to transition. I think that's probably a common denominator for a lot of guys. Sometimes quarterbacks have to take their lumps because they're really in the ground floor of the rebuilding process. The best ones I've been around have come out the other end of those experiences. Sometimes the transition happens smoother because the team is further along in their cycle of rebuilding, and that quarterback comes into that environment and is that much better. Is that a backhanded slap at Gettleman? We are still on the ground floor of the rebuilding process? How long we going to be on this floor? Because it sucks and DG is in year 3. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 7:47:02 GMT -5
Below id from the recent Jason Garrett presser:
Q: Years ago, the common wisdom was that it took a quarterback several years before he really kind of showed what he could do and what he was. The last couple of years, we've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of develop really quickly and almost show it immediately. Do you think that the timeline for development of young quarterbacks is now quicker than it used to be?A: Oh, I think it's a long discussion. I think the way the salary cap is and the way rosters are structured, a lot of young players are making teams now, and maybe they wouldn't have before. A lot of young players at all positions are playing earlier than they would have before. It's just the nature of how the salary cap works and how rosters are structured, and that's probably been in place for at least the last 10 years, and maybe longer than that. In regards to the quarterback position, that's been a great debate through the years. I don't think there's any question that the more recent trend is that if you draft a guy high, you typically want to play him early. What I would say going back really throughout at least the recent history in the NFL, typically, quarterbacks play best when they're in a really good environment. That's younger quarterbacks and that's older quarterbacks. What everyone's trying to do in an organization is create a good environment for their quarterback and give them a good supporting cast. Typically, it's a strong offensive line, it's playmakers outside, it's a good run game. I think those things help that quarterback transition more smoothly. If he's in a situation where he's carrying too much of a burden early on because the team is young and in their rebuilding stage, sometimes it's a little bit harder for that guy to transition. I think that's probably a common denominator for a lot of guys. Sometimes quarterbacks have to take their lumps because they're really in the ground floor of the rebuilding process. The best ones I've been around have come out the other end of those experiences. Sometimes the transition happens smoother because the team is further along in their cycle of rebuilding, and that quarterback comes into that environment and is that much better. NICE!! You took it to another level with the run on.. Donny won't read it and the color stuff is annoying.. Nothing that new in the response that hasn't been said before about the current situation. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 8:08:37 GMT -5
Our running backs actually look pretty decent right now, freeman looks good, great fit and gallman always gives 110%
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 8:10:50 GMT -5
Below id from the recent Jason Garrett presser:
Q: Years ago, the common wisdom was that it took a quarterback several years before he really kind of showed what he could do and what he was. The last couple of years, we've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of develop really quickly and almost show it immediately. Do you think that the timeline for development of young quarterbacks is now quicker than it used to be?A: Oh, I think it's a long discussion. I think the way the salary cap is and the way rosters are structured, a lot of young players are making teams now, and maybe they wouldn't have before. A lot of young players at all positions are playing earlier than they would have before. It's just the nature of how the salary cap works and how rosters are structured, and that's probably been in place for at least the last 10 years, and maybe longer than that. In regards to the quarterback position, that's been a great debate through the years. I don't think there's any question that the more recent trend is that if you draft a guy high, you typically want to play him early. What I would say going back really throughout at least the recent history in the NFL, typically, quarterbacks play best when they're in a really good environment. That's younger quarterbacks and that's older quarterbacks. What everyone's trying to do in an organization is create a good environment for their quarterback and give them a good supporting cast. Typically, it's a strong offensive line, it's playmakers outside, it's a good run game. I think those things help that quarterback transition more smoothly. If he's in a situation where he's carrying too much of a burden early on because the team is young and in their rebuilding stage, sometimes it's a little bit harder for that guy to transition. I think that's probably a common denominator for a lot of guys. Sometimes quarterbacks have to take their lumps because they're really in the ground floor of the rebuilding process. The best ones I've been around have come out the other end of those experiences. Sometimes the transition happens smoother because the team is further along in their cycle of rebuilding, and that quarterback comes into that environment and is that much better. Is that a backhanded slap at Gettleman? We are still on the ground floor of the rebuilding process? How long we going to be on this floor? Because it sucks and DG is in year 3. It may be or its just pointing out the extra added struggle this will give a team when rebuilding AND having a new QB |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 8:11:57 GMT -5
Below id from the recent Jason Garrett presser:
Q: Years ago, the common wisdom was that it took a quarterback several years before he really kind of showed what he could do and what he was. The last couple of years, we've seen a lot of quarterbacks kind of develop really quickly and almost show it immediately. Do you think that the timeline for development of young quarterbacks is now quicker than it used to be?A: Oh, I think it's a long discussion. I think the way the salary cap is and the way rosters are structured, a lot of young players are making teams now, and maybe they wouldn't have before. A lot of young players at all positions are playing earlier than they would have before. It's just the nature of how the salary cap works and how rosters are structured, and that's probably been in place for at least the last 10 years, and maybe longer than that. In regards to the quarterback position, that's been a great debate through the years. I don't think there's any question that the more recent trend is that if you draft a guy high, you typically want to play him early. What I would say going back really throughout at least the recent history in the NFL, typically, quarterbacks play best when they're in a really good environment. That's younger quarterbacks and that's older quarterbacks. What everyone's trying to do in an organization is create a good environment for their quarterback and give them a good supporting cast. Typically, it's a strong offensive line, it's playmakers outside, it's a good run game. I think those things help that quarterback transition more smoothly. If he's in a situation where he's carrying too much of a burden early on because the team is young and in their rebuilding stage, sometimes it's a little bit harder for that guy to transition. I think that's probably a common denominator for a lot of guys. Sometimes quarterbacks have to take their lumps because they're really in the ground floor of the rebuilding process. The best ones I've been around have come out the other end of those experiences. Sometimes the transition happens smoother because the team is further along in their cycle of rebuilding, and that quarterback comes into that environment and is that much better. NICE!! You took it to another level with the run on.. Donny won't read it and the color stuff is annoying.. Nothing that new in the response that hasn't been said before about the current situation. yeah....I hear you but wanted to show what Garrett was saying. I like the multi color because it is annoying...  |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 9, 2020 8:13:12 GMT -5
Is that a backhanded slap at Gettleman? We are still on the ground floor of the rebuilding process? How long we going to be on this floor? Because it sucks and DG is in year 3. It may be or its just pointing out the extra added struggle this will give a team when rebuilding AND having a new QB Maybe, but I dont buy it. There are plenty of other teams with new QBs and rebuilding that are doing it much better. |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 8:15:17 GMT -5
It may be or its just pointing out the extra added struggle this will give a team when rebuilding AND having a new QB Maybe, but I dont buy it. There are plenty of other teams with new QBs and rebuilding that are doing it much better. you dont buy what? That Garrett is not slighting the Giants poor roster or that Jones should be doing great regardless of the roster? In another presser Jones is making no excuses at all for himself. Just figured I'd add that |
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 9, 2020 8:24:21 GMT -5
He did say it was his rant. Rants usually go on and on... |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 9, 2020 8:25:34 GMT -5
Maybe, but I dont buy it. There are plenty of other teams with new QBs and rebuilding that are doing it much better. you dont buy what? That Garrett is not slighting the Giants poor roster or that Jones should be doing great regardless of the roster? In another presser Jones is making no excuses at all for himself. Just figured I'd add that The added extra struggle from a young QB in a rebuild. Obviously we should expect bumps, but these are mountains. I dont doubt Jones is putting blame on himself. Seems like a good character. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 9, 2020 8:53:11 GMT -5
So basically, this is a Daniel Jones excuse thread.
Great, now we can isolate it and keep it in one place. Put a 100 yard barbed wire fence around it, a moat, and some guard towers to make sure no one gets in or out.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 9, 2020 8:56:27 GMT -5
So basically, this is a Daniel Jones excuse thread. Great, now we can isolate it and keep it in one place. Put a 100 yard barbed wire fence around it, a moat, and some guard towers to make sure no one gets in or out. There are reasons and there are excuses. Both are being sited but there is a big difference. There are legit reasons he is struggling. Some are solely on him and some aren't. |
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