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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:02:45 GMT -5
Wrong, Jones and the offensive line lost us the game at the end. Who gave up the last 2 completions? The game could have been won when the offense had the ball with over a minute in the game. That’s what separates the greats from the good players. Jones could have shut up a lot of noise. Instead, the Giants couldn’t make the plays. Punt, Andy Dalton made the plays to win it for the Cowboys. The same Dalton who was probably making arrangements for dinner during halftime. Came in and made the throws to win a big division game. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:03:14 GMT -5
I hope not in FA. That's never worked. Ehh..it does when you have a foundation and you need a key piece... I'm not a fan of this myself... Let's see where we are at week 17 with development Corner 2 lost us the game at the end unfortunately I may be wrong but wasn’t Downs covering him??? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:06:59 GMT -5
Who gave up the last 2 completions? The game could have been won when the offense had the ball with over a minute in the game. That’s what separates the greats from the good players. Jones could have shut up a lot of noise. Instead, the Giants couldn’t make the plays. Punt, Andy Dalton made the plays to win it for the Cowboys. The same Dalton who was probably making arrangements for dinner during halftime. Came in and made the throws to win a big division game. Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw to It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:11:08 GMT -5
The game could have been won when the offense had the ball with over a minute in the game. That’s what separates the greats from the good players. Jones could have shut up a lot of noise. Instead, the Giants couldn’t make the plays. Punt, Andy Dalton made the plays to win it for the Cowboys. The same Dalton who was probably making arrangements for dinner during halftime. Came in and made the throws to win a big division game. Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw to It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference Jones does have professional players on his side. It’s not like he’s playing with a plumber and car salesmen. Dalton probably was hungover from the night before. Who would have foreseen Prescott twisting his ankle in a 180 degree. Jones didn’t make the plays.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:13:08 GMT -5
L9l
I just can't anymore..
Any attempt at logic,knowledge and reasoning around here
This fam base has become just as retarded as the front office
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 20:19:02 GMT -5
The game could have been won when the offense had the ball with over a minute in the game. That’s what separates the greats from the good players. Jones could have shut up a lot of noise. Instead, the Giants couldn’t make the plays. Punt, Andy Dalton made the plays to win it for the Cowboys. The same Dalton who was probably making arrangements for dinner during halftime. Came in and made the throws to win a big division game. Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw to It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference Its important to realize most QBs will never have a trio like that to work with and Jones most likely never will have that luxury. He also worked behind backups on the O-line came off the bench to play. Jones doesn't have the best supporting cast, but Engram, Slayton, Tate and his little trio at the RB committee should not be the worst group in the entire NFL but it is. Thats enough NFL talent to do stuff with. Now i'm not saying its sufficient and I'm not saying Gettlemen shoudln't have made an effort to improve that esp in the draft last year, but it should be serviceable. He did fine with that cast as a rookie last season. This is deeper than just a weapon supply shortage, although I agree with your premise it needs to be addressed. New scheme, still a bad oline, and his own issues are coming to the forefront now. I knew coming into the season it wasn't going to be pretty, but I wasn't expecting this type of bad. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:22:06 GMT -5
L9l I just can't anymore.. Any attempt at logic,knowledge and reasoning around here This fam base has become just as retarded as the front office Please, tell me this post is directed at me. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:22:39 GMT -5
Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw to It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference Its important to realize most QBs will never have a trio to work with and Jones most likely never will have that luxury. He also worked behind backups on the O-line came off the bench to play. Jones doesn't have the best supporting cast, but Engram, Slayton, Tate and his little trio at the RB committee should not be the worst group in the entire NFL but it is. Thats enough NFL talent to do stuff with. Now i'm not saying its sufficient and I'm not saying Gettlemen shoudln't have made an effort to improve that esp in the draft last year, but it should be serviceable. He did fine with that cast as a rookie last season. This is deeper than just a weapon supply shortage, although I agree with your premise it needs to be addressed. New scheme, still a bad oline, and his own issues are coming to the forefront now. I knew coming into the season it wasn't going to be pretty, but I wasn't expecting this type of bad. I actually thought it had a chance to be this bad unfortunately Still have a ways to go..at least the line has a chance to gell ... And look at Mayfield and Allen in year 3... its not over yet |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:23:14 GMT -5
L9l I just can't anymore.. Any attempt at logic,knowledge and reasoning around here This fam base has become just as retarded as the front office Please, tell me this post is directed at me. It's directed at everyone in general |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:23:56 GMT -5
Ehh..it does when you have a foundation and you need a key piece... I'm not a fan of this myself... Let's see where we are at week 17 with development Corner 2 lost us the game at the end unfortunately I may be wrong but wasn’t Downs covering him??? Number 37 |
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 20:26:07 GMT -5
Its important to realize most QBs will never have a trio to work with and Jones most likely never will have that luxury. He also worked behind backups on the O-line came off the bench to play. Jones doesn't have the best supporting cast, but Engram, Slayton, Tate and his little trio at the RB committee should not be the worst group in the entire NFL but it is. Thats enough NFL talent to do stuff with. Now i'm not saying its sufficient and I'm not saying Gettlemen shoudln't have made an effort to improve that esp in the draft last year, but it should be serviceable. He did fine with that cast as a rookie last season. This is deeper than just a weapon supply shortage, although I agree with your premise it needs to be addressed. New scheme, still a bad oline, and his own issues are coming to the forefront now. I knew coming into the season it wasn't going to be pretty, but I wasn't expecting this type of bad. I actually thought it had a chance to be this bad unfortunately Still have a ways to go..at least the line has a chance to gell ... And look at Mayfield and Allen in year 3... its not over yet Very true. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:28:30 GMT -5
Please, tell me this post is directed at me. It's directed at everyone in general Well, I think this team is a ****** disgrace. Want to explain logic, knowledge and reasoning to me? I’m all ears.. |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 20:29:28 GMT -5
The game could have been won when the offense had the ball with over a minute in the game. That’s what separates the greats from the good players. Jones could have shut up a lot of noise. Instead, the Giants couldn’t make the plays. Punt, Andy Dalton made the plays to win it for the Cowboys. The same Dalton who was probably making arrangements for dinner during halftime. Came in and made the throws to win a big division game. It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference And an OL to die for. |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 20:30:49 GMT -5
Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw toIt could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference And an OL to die for. Nah, their Oline is full of injuries and retirements this year. We just can't manufacture a pass rush when it matters. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:31:04 GMT -5
L9l I just can't anymore.. Any attempt at logic,knowledge and reasoning around here This fam base has become just as retarded as the front office Go put some good tunes on!! \M/
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion even the crazy ones..
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 20:32:19 GMT -5
It's directed at everyone in general Well, I think this team is a ****** disgrace. Want to explain logic, knowledge and reasoning to me? I’m all ears.. You're asking for an explanation from the pope of Giants Apologetics. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:32:23 GMT -5
Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw toIt could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference And an OL to die for. They lost their center to retirement. Right and left tackle for the year. They were plugging guys off the street. Your quarterback would die having that line protecting him. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Oct 11, 2020 20:33:19 GMT -5
Dalton also had Lamb/Cooper and Gallup to throw to It could be argued Slayton "might " be their number 4 .. Big difference Jones does have professional players on his side. It’s not like he’s playing with a plumber and car salesmen. Dalton probably was hungover from the night before. Who would have foreseen Prescott twisting his ankle in a 180 degree. Jones didn’t make the plays.. Actually i just heard i was a compound fracture |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:33:49 GMT -5
I may be wrong but wasn’t Downs covering him??? Number 37 Watched the replay. Still have no idea who 37 is. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:34:38 GMT -5
I actually thought it had a chance to be this bad unfortunately Still have a ways to go..at least the line has a chance to gell ... And look at Mayfield and Allen in year 3... its not over yet Very true. He may not make it to year 3 depending on where we are picking |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 20:36:07 GMT -5
Watched the replay. Still have no idea who 37 is. Ryan Lewis. He's been playing ok. Overmatched. |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 20:36:14 GMT -5
Watched the replay. Still have no idea who 37 is. He is our #2 CB we signed off the street 2 weeks ago I think. Let that sink in as Corey Ballantine continues to return the ball out of the endzone to the 18. Another Gettleman special. |
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 20:38:30 GMT -5
He may not make it to year 3 depending on where we are picking That is true also. If we have a new GM and we're picking 1 or 2 all bets are off. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:39:19 GMT -5
Watched the replay. Still have no idea who 37 is. Ryan Lewis. He's been playing ok. Overmatched. Against a guy that could be a Giant next year in FA...(thats an instant upgrade on offense that helps everyone and doesn't force the team unto a must pick with their fist round at WR) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 20:39:32 GMT -5
Watched the replay. Still have no idea who 37 is. He is our #2 CB we signed off the street 2 weeks ago I think. Let that sink in as Corey Ballantine continues to return the ball out of the endzone to the 18. Another Gettleman special. Wow. That hurt my brain. So next year should be easy to fix. All we need are Corners, 3 wide receivers, Tackle, Center maybe Guard, Pass Rushers and Franchise QB. Am I missing anything??? |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 20:40:58 GMT -5
He is our #2 CB we signed off the street 2 weeks ago I think. Let that sink in as Corey Ballantine continues to return the ball out of the endzone to the 18. Another Gettleman special. Wow. That hurt my brain. So next year should be easy to fix. All we need are Corners, 3 wide receivers, Tackle, Center maybe Guard, Pass Rushers and Franchise QB. Am I missing anything??? New GM who can find the right pieces to the puzzle as well. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:43:41 GMT -5
Jones does have professional players on his side. It’s not like he’s playing with a plumber and car salesmen. Dalton probably was hungover from the night before. Who would have foreseen Prescott twisting his ankle in a 180 degree. Jones didn’t make the plays.. Actually i just heard i was a compound fracture When I saw the play, I thought his cleat was off his foot. Then I’m like, “that’s his ankle pointing the wrong way.” I had to put my beer down for a moment. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:53:44 GMT -5
Actually i just heard i was a compound fracture When I saw the play, I thought his cleat was off his foot. Then I’m like, “that’s his ankle pointing the wrong way.” I had to put my beer down for a moment. As bad as its here currently..Dallas is now in franchise hell A franchise type qb on a franchise deal that was putting up insane numbers that is already close to being over the cap next year and the year after as it is with this injury that probably takes at least a year to recover from ..especially for a mobile qb. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 21:02:07 GMT -5
When I saw the play, I thought his cleat was off his foot. Then I’m like, “that’s his ankle pointing the wrong way.” I had to put my beer down for a moment. As bad as its here currently..Dallas is now in franchise hell A franchise type qb on a franchise deal that was putting up insane numbers that is already close to being over the cap next year and the year after as it is with this injury that probably takes at least a year to recover from ..especially for a mobile qb. That’s there problem. I only care about the Giants. Right now, Dallas pulled out a tough win with their quarterback going under the knife as we speak. I never bought into moral victories and silver lining. There’s only 16 games in a football season, and with 5 games played we have yet to taste victory. There was a time where we cared about wins and losses. Now, it’s wait for next year, give it time, and be patient. Dallas might be in “franchise hell.” But we are in purgatory.. |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 21:05:41 GMT -5
Ryan Lewis. He's been playing ok. Overmatched. Against a guy that could be a Giant next year in FA...(thats an instant upgrade on offense that helps everyone and doesn't force the team unto a must pick with their fist round at WR) I hope not With that also. The Giants will be picking high. I’d rather grab a top receiver in a deep draft that can grow with Jones. |
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