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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 5, 2021 16:43:36 GMT -5
I love it Zim, Isn't it amazing how clearly we remember our first game even so many years and many many games ago. My first game was at Ebbets Field also and my father took me too I was 10 years old in '57 their last year in Brooklyn. I was hoping to see Carl Erskine pitch he was my favorite after Newcombe. But instead they pitched some rookie I was disappointed the rookies name was Don Drysdale. He beat the Cubs 7-5. After the Dodgers and Giants left I still rooted for them in L.A. I was too young to hold a grudge like my uncles. My father and I still rooted for them anyway. All we really did was root for any team that played the Yankees. We'd laugh and say for 3 days we root for the Red Sox, for 3 days we root for the Tigers, 3 days the Orioles and so on and so on. And out of the ashes the Phoenix rises and the Mets were born. From the mess at the beginning that we all embraced to a full blown love affair here we are. Aggravation personified and still going. I love talking old baseball with you Zim . Great memories. Thank you. Don Who? Drysdale, you say? Labine, Erskine, Newcombe, Loes, Podres, Black. Drysdale and Koufax pitching for the Dodgers gave me pleasure in those days when our Mets were outclassed. I rooted for the Dodgers every year, along with my Mets, and when Koufax retired I stopped caring about them. Furillo with the incredible bazooka arm. In '55 we were in heaven after Podres 2-0 shutout in game 7. Who's the better center fieldr? Duke, Mick, or Willie? IN '56 MIck won the Triple Crown... but, my Duke set a Major League record with 7 HR's in the WS. Some guy named Don Larsen pitched a no hitter in that '56 series. But only Duke's 7 HRs mattered to me afterwards. Gave me more ammunition in our arguments about the best CF in NY City. Jackie, Junior Gilliam, Gil, Pee Wee, and of course Campy behind the plate. I lived 3 miles from where Campy crashed his Caddy on an icy day in Glen Cove, and never played again. We always got the Long Island Press which was an afternoon paper, so they had all the Dodger overnight Box Scores from LA or SF. In '53 my grandpa gave me a signed ball by all the Dodgers. I kept it on my dresser until one day 3 years later when the guys had a pickup game nealrly every day of the summer in the ball park. One day the cover on our last decent ball came off, so I quick rode my bike home and came back with my Dodger ball. All the guys oohed and ahhed at all the sigs.... and then we put it into play, and used it until the cover came off several days later. Imagine what that would be worth today? We collected and flipped baseball cards every day in the school yard back then and my Mantle rookie card was lost in a flip with no more regret than spending a penny on a piece of gum. Sometimes we'd use a clothes pin to secure them by the wheels on our bikes and the ratta tat from the cards hitting the spokes was cool. Just last night I couldn't remember a well known movie star's name... Had to google him. But, I have zero problems remembering my Dodger's and those first bumbling Mets. I suffered with their every loss. I don't have to ask you if you believe we grew up in the greatest time, ever. I love what this internet gives me.... like right now when we can exchange memories of the best times. But being a kid without it was a blessing. Zim I remember every single thing, My younger sister threw out my 1957 Dodger yearbook that my father bought for me at Ebbets Field when she moved from the house that I grew up in, in Syosset. I had a desk in the back with my stuff. Also stuff from when I was in the Marines. She didn't even look. But like you said a 1957 Dodger yearbook. Beside Drysdale Don Zimmer and Gino Cimoli were rookies that year. Cemoli replaced the great Carl Furillo. Nobody ran 1st to 3rd on a single to right. And whose bike didn't have bubble gum cards ? HaHa I love it.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 5, 2021 17:01:00 GMT -5
Oh Boy ! 11 runs in a game yesterday and 13 more today squeezed around a 3 run performance. This Trevor Williams who came over in the trade for Baez has been great for us in his 4 starts. I didn't even know who he was.
This teams potential frustrates me to no end. This lineup should hit and all year long I'm waiting for them with 22 games left we start hitting and actually put a winning streak of 6 games together and 7 out of 8.
We need to win tomorrow and take 4 out of the 5 game series. We would pick up 3 games if we lose we pick up 1 game. We need to make it count. I had lost realistic hope for them to win the division a week and a half ago but this never say die team has me hanging on with my fingernails to hope. We need to keep streaking.
The hitters keep hitting the bullpen keep doing great. Now if we get some decent starts holding teams to 3 runs or less thru 5-6 innings ......
We can do it ....... Lets Go Mets !
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 5, 2021 17:16:25 GMT -5
The one off offensive game was against a soft tossing lefty. That is this teams true poison. Thank god we picked up Rich Hill and not the Braves or Phils. He would blank us every time.
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Post by Zimonami on Sept 5, 2021 18:51:14 GMT -5
Don Who? Drysdale, you say? Labine, Erskine, Newcombe, Loes, Podres, Black. Drysdale and Koufax pitching for the Dodgers gave me pleasure in those days when our Mets were outclassed. I rooted for the Dodgers every year, along with my Mets, and when Koufax retired I stopped caring about them. Furillo with the incredible bazooka arm. In '55 we were in heaven after Podres 2-0 shutout in game 7. Who's the better center fieldr? Duke, Mick, or Willie? IN '56 MIck won the Triple Crown... but, my Duke set a Major League record with 7 HR's in the WS. Some guy named Don Larsen pitched a no hitter in that '56 series. But only Duke's 7 HRs mattered to me afterwards. Gave me more ammunition in our arguments about the best CF in NY City. Jackie, Junior Gilliam, Gil, Pee Wee, and of course Campy behind the plate. I lived 3 miles from where Campy crashed his Caddy on an icy day in Glen Cove, and never played again. We always got the Long Island Press which was an afternoon paper, so they had all the Dodger overnight Box Scores from LA or SF. In '53 my grandpa gave me a signed ball by all the Dodgers. I kept it on my dresser until one day 3 years later when the guys had a pickup game nealrly every day of the summer in the ball park. One day the cover on our last decent ball came off, so I quick rode my bike home and came back with my Dodger ball. All the guys oohed and ahhed at all the sigs.... and then we put it into play, and used it until the cover came off several days later. Imagine what that would be worth today? We collected and flipped baseball cards every day in the school yard back then and my Mantle rookie card was lost in a flip with no more regret than spending a penny on a piece of gum. Sometimes we'd use a clothes pin to secure them by the wheels on our bikes and the ratta tat from the cards hitting the spokes was cool. Just last night I couldn't remember a well known movie star's name... Had to google him. But, I have zero problems remembering my Dodger's and those first bumbling Mets. I suffered with their every loss. I don't have to ask you if you believe we grew up in the greatest time, ever. I love what this internet gives me.... like right now when we can exchange memories of the best times. But being a kid without it was a blessing. Zim I remember every single thing, My younger sister threw out my 1957 Dodger yearbook that my father bought for me at Ebbets Field when she moved from the house that I grew up in, in Syosset. I had a desk in the back with my stuff. Also stuff from when I was in the Marines. She didn't even look. But like you said a 1957 Dodger yearbook. Beside Drysdale Don Zimmer and Gino Cimoli were rookies that year. Cemoli replaced the great Carl Furillo. Nobody ran 1st to 3rd on a single to right. And whose bike didn't have bubble gum cards ? HaHa I love it. wow, Gino Cimoli. Summer of '57 when I'm still 10... I was listening to a night game in bed on my little radio.... I think against Milwaukee Braves, who won the Series that season. Anyways,Cimoli comes up in the 9th with bases loaded and 0 or 1 out, and he needs a sac fly to win the game, and he hits a homer. I was elated. That was his last year with the Dodgers.
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 6, 2021 9:15:16 GMT -5
Not much of an NL fan/watcher, but dodgers giants was on last night with first place on the line. 9th inning needing a run Mookie Betts totally jobbed by home plate umpire, called strike 3 on pitch 6" off the plate. Maybe the job is just too hard for the human eye with the velocity these pitchers are throwing ... It's definitely time to again have a serious discussion about deploying this already existing digital strike zone technology. it's really not fair to these players who practice and show a good eye and discipline to get continually robbed like this.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 6, 2021 9:40:00 GMT -5
Not much of an NL fan/watcher, but dodgers giants was on last night with first place on the line. 9th inning needing a run Mookie Betts totally jobbed by home plate umpire, called strike 3 on pitch 6" off the plate. Maybe the job is just too hard for the human eye with the velocity these pitchers are throwing ... It's definitely time to again have a serious discussion about deploying this already existing digital strike zone technology. it's really not fair to these players who practice and show a good eye and discipline to get continually robbed like this. It happens but on the whole I think the umps really do a good job. But your right they have this tech right now why can't the umps have something in their hand that they could look at for close calls to help them make calls correctly. When the ump screws up in pressure part of game with playoffs at stake we should look at something to try and help. Hell this years changes were dynamic. man on 2nd in extra innings, pitcher must face 3 batters wtf, ? no pitches for intentional walk. Some good some not. Something to help umps on close calls, why not ? Football did. Tennis too. Both with tech.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 6, 2021 10:09:21 GMT -5
And today at 11am I am damn excited about the Mets today. The Nats pitcher forgot his name has an era over 6. This Trevor Williams in his 4 starts for the Mets has allowed approximately a half run a game. He is 4-2 overall with an era over 4. But the change of teams has been a God send for Williams.
And with the way the Met bats seem to have awakened we could make hay in this series winning 4 out of 5. Picking up 3 wins advantage. But we need this game to make a difference. If we lose we only pick up 1 game. We need to keep streaking to have a chance to win this division. 24 games left all hands on deck. No off days like the 2nd game of a doubleheader. Not everybody off in one game.
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 6, 2021 10:34:00 GMT -5
And today at 11am I am damn excited about the Mets today. The Nats pitcher forgot his name has an era over 6. This Trevor Williams in his 4 starts for the Mets has allowed approximately a half run a game. He is 4-2 overall with an era over 4. But the change of teams has been a God send for Williams. And with the way the Met bats seem to have awakened we could make hay in this series winning 4 out of 5. Picking up 3 wins advantage. But we need this game to make a difference. If we lose we only pick up 1 game. We need to keep streaking to have a chance to win this division. 24 games left all hands on deck. No off days like the 2nd game of a doubleheader. Not everybody off in one game. It's been fun to watch, but I can't help feeling it will come to a screaming halt once we start playing better teams. Or even the marlins, who always seem to play us tough. I hope I'm wrong, but the way we keep blowing big leads has me concerned. Our pitching has been melting down regularly.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 6, 2021 15:45:41 GMT -5
Damn shame
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Post by ukgiantsfan on Sept 6, 2021 15:52:34 GMT -5
Ugly loss ……. Those 2 walks in the bottom of the 9th killed us ( and by the way there is no way he touched home plate ….. that could have easily be reversed. Oh well ……. on to the Marlins !
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 6, 2021 16:49:46 GMT -5
And today at 11am I am damn excited about the Mets today. The Nats pitcher forgot his name has an era over 6. This Trevor Williams in his 4 starts for the Mets has allowed approximately a half run a game. He is 4-2 overall with an era over 4. But the change of teams has been a God send for Williams. And with the way the Met bats seem to have awakened we could make hay in this series winning 4 out of 5. Picking up 3 wins advantage. But we need this game to make a difference. If we lose we only pick up 1 game. We need to keep streaking to have a chance to win this division. 24 games left all hands on deck. No off days like the 2nd game of a doubleheader. Not everybody off in one game. It's been fun to watch, but I can't help feeling it will come to a screaming halt once we start playing better teams. Or even the marlins, who always seem to play us tough. I hope I'm wrong, but the way we keep blowing big leads has me concerned. Our pitching has been melting down regularly. I agree, they're playing exciting devil may care baseball against a crappy team. This kind of play won't get them anywhere worthwhile.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 6, 2021 17:35:31 GMT -5
This loss hurts we only pick up 1 win in this 5 game series instead of 3 wins. What a bad taste this leaves in my mouth. Don said it he was right.
We need to think making Familiar our closer or somebody else. Diaz isn't doing it. We don't have time for him to get his control under control.
And UK is right he never touched home with the tying run.
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 6, 2021 18:46:04 GMT -5
This loss hurts we only pick up 1 win in this 5 game series instead of 3 wins. What a bad taste this leaves in my mouth. Don said it he was right. We need to think making Familiar our closer or somebody else. Diaz isn't doing it. We don't have time for him to get his control under control. And UK is right he never touched home with the tying run. Familia melts down as much if not more than Diaz. They both walk too many batters. Diaz walked the first batter today on 4 pitches. And it's not just the relievers. Walker gets worse with each start, and the pitcher today was in trouble every inning. Not saying this was a must have game, but these are the kind they can't lose in the final stretch.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 7, 2021 19:24:56 GMT -5
This is great we have now reached the part where we can score runs and the pitching can’t hold a lead. What an awful season to watch. It’s been frustrating across the board.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 7, 2021 19:46:30 GMT -5
With Alonzo hitting his 31st HR of the season and 100th of his career. He is the 2nd fastest man to reach 100 HR's in baseball history. Ryan Howard is the fastest.
Pretty damn impressive. This goes with him being the most HR's by a rookie in baseball history.
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 7, 2021 21:39:11 GMT -5
With Alonzo hitting his 31st HR of the season and 100th of his career. He is the 2nd fastest man to reach 100 HR's in baseball history. Ryan Howard is the fastest. Pretty damn impressive. This goes with him being the most HR's by a rookie in baseball history. He just hit another no doubter. He had some issues early flailing at high fastballs and adjusted. He's the face of the Mets. Another David Wright with even more power?
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 7, 2021 22:01:07 GMT -5
With Alonzo hitting his 31st HR of the season and 100th of his career. He is the 2nd fastest man to reach 100 HR's in baseball history. Ryan Howard is the fastest. Pretty damn impressive. This goes with him being the most HR's by a rookie in baseball history. He just hit another no doubter. He had some issues early flailing at high fastballs and adjusted. He's the face of the Mets. Another David Wright with even more power? Not perfect, but definitely the most consistent and reliable Mets bat by a wide margin this year. (Probably Villar and Nimmo next). Also good to see Lindor continuing to come around.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 8, 2021 10:25:03 GMT -5
He just hit another no doubter. He had some issues early flailing at high fastballs and adjusted. He's the face of the Mets. Another David Wright with even more power? Not perfect, but definitely the most consistent and reliable Mets bat by a wide margin this year. (Probably Villar and Nimmo next). Also good to see Lindor continuing to come around. Shocked they have a legit power hitter with a stadium that is as unfriendly a power field as any built recently Still wish they would build a team to be able to flourish on a big field (average hitters with aggressive base running )to go along with this bat
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 8, 2021 10:50:52 GMT -5
Not perfect, but definitely the most consistent and reliable Mets bat by a wide margin this year. (Probably Villar and Nimmo next). Also good to see Lindor continuing to come around. Shocked they have a legit power hitter with a stadium that is as unfriendly a power field as any built recently Still wish they would build a team to be able to flourish on a big field (average hitters with aggressive base running )to go along with this bat They need more nimmos and speed. We've got to be in the bottom of the league in stolen bases and hits with risp. Last night they had bases loaded with one out twice. The second time they finally got a hit that drove in 2 runs. Edit: we are 27th in stolen bases and 8th in runners left in scoring position.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 8, 2021 14:26:56 GMT -5
Not perfect, but definitely the most consistent and reliable Mets bat by a wide margin this year. (Probably Villar and Nimmo next). Also good to see Lindor continuing to come around. Shocked they have a legit power hitter with a stadium that is as unfriendly a power field as any built recently Still wish they would build a team to be able to flourish on a big field (average hitters with aggressive base running )to go along with this bat I think it’s moderate now. The initial design prior to the changes was 100% a pitchers park.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 8, 2021 17:50:09 GMT -5
OK 23 games to go as of 9/8/21. 4 games out, Braves have 25 games left, we play them the last 3 games.
I think we need to win 17-6 to reach 88 wins maybe 87 wins takes the division. Thats .750 ball 3 out of every 4. And our schedule is not a cakewalk to say the least. Yanks, Red Sox, Braves, etc.
These games with the Marlins are the worse team we play. We need the Braves to have a bad streak, were going to need help. Both the Braves and Phils have an easier schedule.
Remember Tug McGraws war cry " You Gotta Believe ".
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 8, 2021 18:18:24 GMT -5
OK 23 games to go as of 9/8/21. 4 games out, Braves have 25 games left, we play them the last 3 games. I think we need to win 17-6 to reach 88 wins maybe 87 wins takes the division. Thats .750 ball 3 out of every 4. And our schedule is not a cakewalk to say the least. Yanks, Red Sox, Braves, etc. These games with the Marlins are the worse team we play. We need the Braves to have a bad streak, were going to need help. Both the Braves and Phils have an easier schedule. Remember Tug McGraws war cry " You Gotta Believe ". They still have a series against the Giants too. But although I am rooting I'm not believing.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 8, 2021 18:28:21 GMT -5
OK 23 games to go as of 9/8/21. 4 games out, Braves have 25 games left, we play them the last 3 games. I think we need to win 17-6 to reach 88 wins maybe 87 wins takes the division. Thats .750 ball 3 out of every 4. And our schedule is not a cakewalk to say the least. Yanks, Red Sox, Braves, etc. These games with the Marlins are the worse team we play. We need the Braves to have a bad streak, were going to need help. Both the Braves and Phils have an easier schedule. Remember Tug McGraws war cry " You Gotta Believe ". They still have a series against the Giants too. But although I am rooting I'm not believing. Yea this 10 game stretch with the Nats and Marlins we need to make hay. I thought we needed to go 8-2. 7-3 at worse. So far were 4-2 we need to sweep all remaining 4 or at least 3 wins minimum. Not sure we gain any ground at 7-3 if we go any worse and fall 5 games out were done. Root your heart out and stick pins in a Braves voo doo doll. All we can do is just keep winning. I think were 8-2 the last 10 games.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 8, 2021 20:29:13 GMT -5
Sheesh Lugo thanks for making that as interesting as possible.
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Post by Parsley on Sept 8, 2021 20:53:40 GMT -5
Sheesh Lugo thanks for making that as interesting as possible. Diaz blows.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 8, 2021 21:01:05 GMT -5
Sheesh Lugo thanks for making that as interesting as possible. Diaz blows. In all fairness the offense resurfaced tonight. 1 run in 10 innings deserves to lose. This team consistently finds what it takes to lose winnable games.
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Post by Parsley on Sept 8, 2021 23:23:45 GMT -5
In all fairness the offense resurfaced tonight. 1 run in 10 innings deserves to lose. This team consistently finds what it takes to lose winnable games. Very true.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 9, 2021 8:36:28 GMT -5
This game was a tough loss. We can't afford to lose these games. To me as far as Diaz last night. If he pitched anywhere in the first 9 innings it would have been a scoreless inning. But with that man on 2nd in extra innings it wasn't good enough. Getting that strikeout for the 2nd out I thought we just might escape. We did run into a hell of a pitched game. Sometimes the other guy is just great that night. 13-14 strikeouts, 4 hits, 9 innings, 1 run on a solo homer. He wasn't even in trouble that inning he just got tagged by Conforto. Hell of a performance.
We just cannot afford these losses we need to win 3 out of 4 from here on in. Now in this 10 game stretch vs the Nats and Marlins where we needed to make hay going in 7-3 or 8-2 . Now were 4-3 after 7 games of this stretch. The rest of the schedule is considerably tougher.
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Post by ukgiantsfan on Sept 9, 2021 9:17:36 GMT -5
Just watched it ......Rojas blew it big time by not intentionally walking De La Cruz when Diaz was due next in the 10th
But as Navy correctly says 4 hits and 1 run in 10 innings does not deserve to win anyway
Gutted !
Pathetic !
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 9, 2021 9:52:03 GMT -5
Moose and Maggie are absolutely destroying Rojas over not walking him.. he's the best hitter in their lineup, it was an absolute no brainer...
Also questioning pinch hitting mazikas.
Either way, Rojas blew the 10th and lost that game, period
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