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Post by DJones19 on Jan 19, 2021 13:55:59 GMT -5
I thought Watson was better then Brady this season.. he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones.
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 19, 2021 14:57:29 GMT -5
I thought Watson was better then Brady this season.. he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. What do you think might have happened if he had our defense this year?
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 19, 2021 15:21:14 GMT -5
he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. What do you think might have happened if he had our defense this year? We would have finished with a better record but I disagree with the idea that the QB is "everything". Brady doesn't go to the Bucs if the pieces weren't already in place for him to succeed. KC has two Pro-Bowl receivers and LT, GB has one of the best WR in the league and a Pro-Bowl RB and LT.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 15:28:39 GMT -5
I thought Watson was better then Brady this season.. he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. True but there were a couple of years of playoffs before this past seasons mess..
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Post by SG88 on Jan 19, 2021 15:38:00 GMT -5
Mayfield played lights out yesterday, and the Browns still lost. 17 points. Mayfield stinks. I'd rather have Daniel Jones over Mayfield. You should consider doing standup comedy with this đ
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Post by SG88 on Jan 19, 2021 15:41:27 GMT -5
I thought Watson was better then Brady this season.. he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. Well Danny is one subpar season away from losing his job. Watson also makes 31 million per year on average. 5 years, 155 million or around that since I'm thinking off the top of my head. The fact that you continue to try and bring Watson and other QBs down to Jones less than mediocre level is hilarious.
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Post by snyder55 on Jan 19, 2021 16:27:54 GMT -5
right now Watson is a very good QB on a mule team... It's a shame and hopefully the new group taking over can right the team in a couple of years unlike what we have been dealing with as Giants fans.. its a tough problem, I live here in Houston and unlike most franchise cities this town will not support a loser..
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 16:36:57 GMT -5
he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. What do you think might have happened if he had our defense this year? 4-12
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 17:02:09 GMT -5
Mayfield played lights out yesterday, and the Browns still lost. 17 points. Mayfield stinks. I'd rather have Daniel Jones over Mayfield. That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense. Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win. But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 17:02:28 GMT -5
I thought Watson was better then Brady this season.. he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:13:25 GMT -5
17 points. Mayfield stinks. I'd rather have Daniel Jones over Mayfield. That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense.  Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win.  But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too. 20 mph winds You are reaching badly. Just stop.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:13:51 GMT -5
he probably was but the 40 million dollar QB Watson still won less games than Jones. The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football Sure is. Top 4 QBs in the NFL are the 4 QBs remaining.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jan 19, 2021 17:16:03 GMT -5
ok if it's by record then big Ben is better.. If you think Brady was one of the 4 best QBs this season then you aren't paying attention.. Well done sir! Why are you arguing ? Brady did QB his team to 11 wins. He threw 40 TD passes, he threw for 4600 yds. What more did you expect from him ? If it wasn't for Rogers great year Brady would be MVP.
Brady did have a great year. What are you arguing over minuscule stats ?
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 17:22:25 GMT -5
That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense. Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win. But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too. 20 mph winds You are reaching badly. Just stop. Facts are facts.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 17:23:14 GMT -5
The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football Sure is. Top 4 QBs in the NFL are the 4 QBs remaining. Of course they are. They play for the four best teams. You know my Obviousman user name is for sale if you're interested.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 17:27:21 GMT -5
ok if it's by record then big Ben is better.. If you think Brady was one of the 4 best QBs this season then you aren't paying attention.. Well done sir! Why are you arguing ? Brady did QB his team to 11 wins. He threw 40 TD passes, he threw for 4600 yds. What more did you expect from him ? If it wasn't for Rogers great year Brady would be MVP.
Brady did have a great year. What are you arguing over minuscule stats ?
Mahomes (14-2) would have been. Allen (13-3) is still a dark horse candidate.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:48:51 GMT -5
20 mph winds You are reaching badly. Just stop. Facts are facts. Well yeah, the Quarterback is everything. Josh Allen outplayed the opposing team's QB. Josh Allen's team won. See? The QB is everything.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:50:14 GMT -5
Sure is. Top 4 QBs in the NFL are the 4 QBs remaining. Of course they are.  They play for the four best teams. You know my Obviousman user name is for sale if you're interested. No, the 4 teams have the 4 best QBs. The Bills without Josh Allen are NOT 1 of the 4 best teams. They have NO running game, below average TE play, and an average defense. Josh Allen is the Bills.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:51:03 GMT -5
 Why are you arguing ? Brady did QB his team to 11 wins. He threw 40 TD passes, he threw for 4600 yds. What more did you expect from him ? If it wasn't for Rogers great year Brady would be MVP.
Brady did have a great year. What are you arguing over minuscule stats ?
Mahomes (14-2) would have been. Â Allen (13-3) is still a dark horse candidate. Allen will finish 2nd in MVP voting ahead of Mahomes.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 17:52:12 GMT -5
17 points. Mayfield stinks. I'd rather have Daniel Jones over Mayfield. That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense.  Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win.  But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too. The Bills Quarterback outplayed the Ravens Quarterback. The Bills won the game. The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football. Thank you for confirming my point.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 18:10:00 GMT -5
Well yeah, the Quarterback is everything. Josh Allen outplayed the opposing team's QB. Josh Allen's team won. See? The QB is everything. That's the party line all right; the media is very glad to see you're a buyer.
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 19, 2021 18:10:52 GMT -5
Well yeah, the Quarterback is everything. Josh Allen outplayed the opposing team's QB. Josh Allen's team won. See? The QB is everything. That's the party line all right; the media is very glad to see you're a buyer. Â Thank you for making my argument. The better QB won the game? Oh....
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 19, 2021 18:36:02 GMT -5
Mahomes (14-2) would have been. Allen (13-3) is still a dark horse candidate. Allen will finish 2nd in MVP voting ahead of Mahomes. As I said. Mahomes and the Chiefs won it last year and the Bills are the feel good story this year so that's entirely possible.
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Post by GameTime on Jan 19, 2021 18:43:07 GMT -5
Of course they are. They play for the four best teams. You know my Obviousman user name is for sale if you're interested. No, the 4 teams have the 4 best QBs. The Bills without Josh Allen are NOT 1 of the 4 best teams. They have NO running game, below average TE play, and an average defense. Josh Allen is the Bills. Allen really took major steps forward this season as we all have seen. The kid is playing great. Just curious as to why you are pushing the agenda of forcing that info every chance you get?
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 19, 2021 19:57:54 GMT -5
No, the 4 teams have the 4 best QBs. The Bills without Josh Allen are NOT 1 of the 4 best teams. They have NO running game, below average TE play, and an average defense. Josh Allen is the Bills. Allen really took major steps forward this season as we all have seen. The kid is playing great. Just curious as to why you are pushing the agenda of forcing that info every chance you get? This is the John Jerry guy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 8:22:03 GMT -5
ok if it's by record then big Ben is better.. If you think Brady was one of the 4 best QBs this season then you aren't paying attention.. Well done sir! Why are you arguing ? Brady did QB his team to 11 wins. He threw 40 TD passes, he threw for 4600 yds. What more did you expect from him ? If it wasn't for Rogers great year Brady would be MVP.
Brady did have a great year. What are you arguing over minuscule stats ?
I was just pointing out that Brady wasn't one of the 4 best QBs this past season.. I watched him twice and he wasn't looking like a top QB in those games.. If you feel different about this I'm really good with excepting your opinion but I hope you aren't expecting me to change mine..
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 21, 2021 19:46:53 GMT -5
20 mph winds You are reaching badly. Just stop. Facts are facts. Yes they are Boom!
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Post by rbe40 on Jan 21, 2021 19:48:23 GMT -5
17 points. Mayfield stinks. I'd rather have Daniel Jones over Mayfield. That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense.  Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win.  But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too.Â
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Post by Sarcasman on Jan 22, 2021 1:19:20 GMT -5
That's one way of looking at it and although he did throw for only 200 yards with a pick, he at least was integral to all 17 of their points, all scored by him directing the offense. Unlike other QBs that could only muster 10 points and needed their D to score in order to win. But y'know what they say, The Quarterback is Everything in Pro Football so credit that 100 yard pick 6 to him too. Those are facts. So is the pick 6. And for fun we could do the same thing with any position and likely see similar correlation. So.....good work?
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