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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 6, 2021 19:48:14 GMT -5
On the 29th of July, 2011, the Philadelphia Eagles traded Kevin Kolb to the Arizona Cardinals and received in return Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a 2012 NFL draft second-round pick. It turned into DRC, Vinny Curry and Brandon Boykin for Kevin Kolb. I expect the Eagles to get a big return for Wentz They also got a first rounder for Bradford after drafting Wentz I literally think Rossman has the Jedi mind trick I have never seen a GM regularly rip off the other team so badly and so often with trades .
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Post by rbe40 on Feb 6, 2021 20:01:27 GMT -5
They also got a first rounder for Bradford after drafting Wentz I literally think Rossman has the Jedi mind trick I have never seen a GM regularly rip off the other team so badly and so often with trades . If Jones and Wentz had equal salaries, would u trade Jones straight up for Wentz?
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 6, 2021 20:10:09 GMT -5
I literally think Rossman has the Jedi mind trick I have never seen a GM regularly rip off the other team so badly and so often with trades . If Jones and Wentz had equal salaries, would u trade Jones straight up for Wentz? I'd want the Eagles 1st and Wentz So no
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Post by DandyDon on Feb 6, 2021 20:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 6, 2021 21:07:44 GMT -5
He was a pretty good qb before that awful body slam that destroyed his shoulder. He was never the same after that. Not a great qb, but certainly pretty damn good. Tough MF. I was at the Playoff game when he was with the Viking and they Played the Giants at the meadow lands. LT Hammer and Rick Fox ahnilated him, we sat behind the viking bench every other offensive series he came off they were giving the old ammonia to get the cob webbs out they pummeled him pillar to post. but he got up and went back for more. In todays NFL he would have been out of the game half way through the first QT.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 6, 2021 21:11:18 GMT -5
They also got a first rounder for Bradford after drafting Wentz I literally think Rossman has the Jedi mind trick I have never seen a GM regularly rip off the other team so badly and so often with trades . Rossman gets big balls in Philly but the way he turned over the chip Kelly roster to a superbowl roster was pretty remarkable. Back then a thought they would be a mess fro awhile I thought he did a real good job.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 6, 2021 23:32:34 GMT -5
I literally think Rossman has the Jedi mind trick I have never seen a GM regularly rip off the other team so badly and so often with trades . If Jones and Wentz had equal salaries, would u trade Jones straight up for Wentz? Nah this past season Wentz looked shellshocked he was not handling pressure well and has been beaten up over the last few years. No one knows how he will come back or if he will. He might have been the worst QB in football before he was benched.
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 6, 2021 23:51:34 GMT -5
If Jones and Wentz had equal salaries, would u trade Jones straight up for Wentz? Nah this past season Wentz looked shellshocked he was not handling pressure well and has been beaten up over the last few years. No one knows how he will come back or if he will. He might have been the worst QB in football before he was benched. He definitely struggled last year. But in 2019, he absolutely carried that team to the playoffs.
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Post by SG88 on Feb 7, 2021 1:04:47 GMT -5
Nah this past season Wentz looked shellshocked he was not handling pressure well and has been beaten up over the last few years. No one knows how he will come back or if he will. He might have been the worst QB in football before he was benched. He definitely struggled last year. But in 2019, he absolutely carried that team to the playoffs. It is hilarious that Giants fans have been cracking on Carson Wentz all day considering that we have our own issues at QB. The guy literally lost his whole oline outside of the center and dealt with WR corps worst than the Giants. I think that there is plenty of really good football in Wentz. If he leaves the NFCE, I will be very happy about that.
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Post by Dogecoin on Feb 7, 2021 5:49:06 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz
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Post by 80sdreincarnate on Feb 7, 2021 6:50:14 GMT -5
Sounds like it'll be Foles, a Round 1, and a player for Wentz. I think Indy would be a SB contender with him. I think the Bears GM and HC are just shocked to still have jobs and the draft pick means nothing to them. I guess they mine as well go for it and if Wentz plays well they get a few more years. If he does not they were gonna be fired anyway. And I think Wentz is a very good QB. His problem until this season was durablity and that is still the only concern I have with him. Eagles had an Oline and WRs off the street the majority of the year. His go to WR was Travis Fulgham and he was under constant pressure. Looked like the 2017 Giants offense.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 7, 2021 8:17:15 GMT -5
Sounds like it'll be Foles, a Round 1, and a player for Wentz. I think Indy would be a SB contender with him. I think the Bears GM and HC are just shocked to still have jobs and the draft pick means nothing to them. I guess they mine as well go for it and if Wentz plays well they get a few more years. If he does not they were gonna be fired anyway. And I think Wentz is a very good QB. His problem until this season was durablity and that is still the only concern I have with him. Eagles had an Oline and WRs off the street the majority of the year. His go to WR was Travis Fulgham and he was under constant pressure. Looked like the 2017 Giants offense. If Wentz plays well, the Bears will have him under a reasonable deal
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 8:54:34 GMT -5
Nah this past season Wentz looked shellshocked he was not handling pressure well and has been beaten up over the last few years. No one knows how he will come back or if he will. He might have been the worst QB in football before he was benched. He definitely struggled last year. But in 2019, he absolutely carried that team to the playoffs. He hasn't been the same since he got hurt and it seems each year out he has been a little less effective not saying with some good OL play and a good offensive mind he can't get back, but who knows some of these guys just never get all the way back confidence what ever. I think any team trading for him are gonna be trading for the 2020 version.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 9:00:45 GMT -5
He definitely struggled last year. But in 2019, he absolutely carried that team to the playoffs. It is hilarious that Giants fans have been cracking on Carson Wentz all day considering that we have our own issues at QB. The guy literally lost his whole oline outside of the center and dealt with WR corps worst than the Giants. I think that there is plenty of really good football in Wentz. If he leaves the NFCE, I will be very happy about that. I'm not cracking on him he hasn't looked like the year 2 pre injury Wentz, even when the Eagles were winning he didn't look like he scared anyone. Nothing against the player. Our fan base expected a 2 time superbowl MVP to be good behind an OL that made the Eagles unit they ran out there in 2020 look like an all pro unit
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 9:05:07 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz Younger and healthier I would say, Wentz is young depends if he can get back from injuries and get his head right and confidence back maybe a change will do him good.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 7, 2021 10:40:50 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz Younger and healthier I would say, Wentz is young depends if he can get back from injuries and get his head right and confidence back maybe a change will do him good. Again if this happens how does Philly eat the dead money hit ?
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Post by Sarcasman on Feb 7, 2021 11:14:44 GMT -5
Nah this past season Wentz looked shellshocked he was not handling pressure well and has been beaten up over the last few years. No one knows how he will come back or if he will. He might have been the worst QB in football before he was benched. He definitely struggled last year. But in 2019, he absolutely carried that team to the playoffs. Absolutely. The best OL in the league coupled with a top 15 D didn’t help at all. That was all him
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Post by Sarcasman on Feb 7, 2021 11:17:51 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz I don’t think Trubisky is better than Wentz. That’s silly. And I think Wentz like many QBs will be fine once he has a good team around him again.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 11:35:41 GMT -5
Younger and healthier I would say, Wentz is young depends if he can get back from injuries and get his head right and confidence back maybe a change will do him good. Again if this happens how does Philly eat the dead money hit ? How much is left on his guaranteed money I'm sure it's a lot thats what they are stuck with.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 11:43:00 GMT -5
Younger and healthier I would say, Wentz is young depends if he can get back from injuries and get his head right and confidence back maybe a change will do him good. Again if this happens how does Philly eat the dead money hit ? I just took a look it looks like it's gonna hurt no matter what each year he has a 6 mill option 2021 10 mill guaranteed pus some work out bonuses for every year anywhere from 4 to mill.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 11:52:25 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz I don’t think Trubisky is better than Wentz. That’s silly. And I think Wentz like many QBs will be fine once he has a good team around him again. Carson Wentz and Deshuan Watson both prove your only a QB away if you have talent on both sides of the ball to support that QB. Some here think if we give away the next 3 years of upper tier draft capital for Watson we are fixed, no we are f#$%ed. Hopefully for Wentz if the Eagles do trade hime he finds a home with a decent OL and some weapons, otherwise he will have the same out come he did last year.
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Post by Sarcasman on Feb 7, 2021 12:07:39 GMT -5
I don’t think Trubisky is better than Wentz. That’s silly. And I think Wentz like many QBs will be fine once he has a good team around him again. Carson Wentz and Deshuan Watson both prove your only a QB away if you have talent on both sides of the ball to support that QB. Some here think if we give away the next 3 years of upper tier draft capital for Watson we are fixed, no we are f#$%ed. Hopefully for Wentz if the Eagles do trade hime he finds a home with a decent OL and some weapons, otherwise he will have the same out come he did last year. I’m not sure that’s it. Certainly I’ve seen some of those posts but obviously don’t take them seriously. That’s all just NFL marketing and media drivel for the casual fan. However I do think there is validity to the idea that getting Watson probably solves the biggest variable for any NFL team for the next decade. And with that variable solved, it’s likely much easier to go about collecting the remaining necessary pieces.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 7, 2021 12:18:22 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz lol ... Trubisky is not better than Wentz
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 7, 2021 13:08:10 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz lol ... Trubisky is not better than Wentz That had to be one of tbe biggest draft day blunders in history Trade assets to get this guy ahead of both Watson and Mahomes
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Post by rbe40 on Feb 7, 2021 13:34:33 GMT -5
Foles headed back to Philly? He'll be the only QB in division with a ring. Bears about to make another stupid move at QB. Trebisky is better than wentz lol ... Trubisky is not better than Wentz At least Trubisky is a somewhat likeable guy. I find it impossible to root for a diva like Wentz. And Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the Win column at all from Trubisky. Lateral move.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 7, 2021 13:56:14 GMT -5
lol ... Trubisky is not better than Wentz At least Trubisky is a somewhat likeable guy. I find it impossible to root for a diva like Wentz. And Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the Win column at all from Trubisky. Lateral move. lol ... the true measure of a QB ... likability
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 7, 2021 14:06:13 GMT -5
At least Trubisky is a somewhat likeable guy. I find it impossible to root for a diva like Wentz. And Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the Win column at all from Trubisky. Lateral move. lol ... the true measure of a QB ... likability That's why Brady and Rodgers are so good.....It's their cheery disposition.
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Post by rbe40 on Feb 7, 2021 14:06:20 GMT -5
At least Trubisky is a somewhat likeable guy. I find it impossible to root for a diva like Wentz. And Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the Win column at all from Trubisky. Lateral move. lol ... the true measure of a QB ... likability "Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the win column over Trubisky"
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Post by rbe40 on Feb 7, 2021 14:06:59 GMT -5
lol ... the true measure of a QB ... likability That's why Brady and Rodgers are so good.....It's their cheery disposition. "Wentz doesn't upgrade the Win column for the Bears over Trubisky. Lateral move"
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 7, 2021 14:07:12 GMT -5
lol ... the true measure of a QB ... likability "Wentz doesn't upgrade the Bears in the win column over Trubisky" TrubiskyMagic!
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