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Post by nyg2 on Feb 25, 2021 12:00:20 GMT -5
WOW! QBs are getting shipped off left and right. I think Russell Wilson, will ultimately want to go to the Jets. His wife has made it clear that she wants to live in a large media market and what's bigger than the big apple.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 25, 2021 12:08:08 GMT -5
Russell Wilson must not be aware of the Jets history.
They’re a black hole in regards to a franchise.
You have to deal with the pressure of playing in NY, so every mistake will be over analyzed.
The term “media circus.” Is true and it’s relentless.
And last, it’s the Jets.. Why don’t you ask to be traded to Saudi Arabia while you’re at it.
I’m surprised at this. Seattle is a great franchise that has stayed relevant for sometime now. Why would he want to take what he helped build and run for the hills?
Too bad he doesn’t want to come here. Then again, I don’t blame him.
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 25, 2021 12:09:38 GMT -5
WOW! QBs are getting shipped off left and right. I think Russell Wilson, will ultimately want to go to the Jets. His wife has made it clear that she wants to live in a large media market and what's bigger than the big apple. LOL, players dictating who their teams should acquire, wives dictating which team they should play for - maybe the GMs will have to consult with any of their toddlers in the future. |
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 25, 2021 12:11:43 GMT -5
Russell Wilson must not be aware of the Jets history. They’re a black hole in regards to a franchise. You have to deal with the pressure of playing in NY, so every mistake will be over analyzed. The term “media circus.” Is true and it’s relentless. And last, it’s the Jets.. Who don’t you ask to be traded to Saudi Arabia while you’re at it. I’m surprised at this. Seattle is a great franchise that has stayed relevant for sometime now. Why would he want to take what he helped build and run for the hills? Too bad he doesn’t want to come here. Then again, I don’t blame him. Not sure we aren't almost as screwed up as the Jets these days.
Old, tired franchise, stuck in the past.
We are clearly not a desired destination for most players.
Even the fan base seems happy to make excuses for losing.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 25, 2021 12:12:15 GMT -5
WOW! QBs are getting shipped off left and right. I think Russell Wilson, will ultimately want to go to the Jets. His wife has made it clear that she wants to live in a large media market and what's bigger than the big apple. LOL, players dictating who their teams should acquire, wives dictating which team they should play for - maybe the GMs will have to consult with any of their toddlers in the future. That’s how it’s run in the NBA. It was bound to leak to the NFL. Hopefully, the NFL learns from the NBA. Don’t let the players rule the kingdom. |
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 25, 2021 12:23:30 GMT -5
Russell Wilson must not be aware of the Jets history. They’re a black hole in regards to a franchise. You have to deal with the pressure of playing in NY, so every mistake will be over analyzed. The term “media circus.” Is true and it’s relentless. And last, it’s the Jets.. Who don’t you ask to be traded to Saudi Arabia while you’re at it. I’m surprised at this. Seattle is a great franchise that has stayed relevant for sometime now. Why would he want to take what he helped build and run for the hills? Too bad he doesn’t want to come here. Then again, I don’t blame him. Not sure we aren't almost as screwed up as the Jets these days.
Old, tired franchise, stuck in the past.
We are clearly not a desired destination for most players.
Even the fan base seems happy to make excuses for losing.
It shows you how far this franchise has fallen. 15 wins in the last 3 years. The Chiefs alone won 14 last year. We need binoculars to see the light at the end of the tunnel. |
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 25, 2021 12:30:49 GMT -5
Not sure we aren't almost as screwed up as the Jets these days.
Old, tired franchise, stuck in the past.
We are clearly not a desired destination for most players.
Even the fan base seems happy to make excuses for losing.
It shows you how far this franchise has fallen. 15 wins in the last 3 years. The Chiefs alone won 14 last year. We need binoculars to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's not just that. If you ask most Giants fans they will tell you that they're happy with the "direction" the team is headed.
The low expectations of fans contribute to the lack of accountability this FO is faced with.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 25, 2021 12:31:01 GMT -5
I'm getting sick of these QB's that get paid $30+M per year and are whining because they also want to run the organization. Shut the f*** up and play football like we pay you handsomely to do.
What are the Jets going to do when he comes over there and wants to run things?
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 25, 2021 12:40:18 GMT -5
I'm getting sick of these QB's that get paid $30+M per year and are whining because they also want to run the organization. Shut the f*** up and play football like we pay you handsomely to do. What are the Jets going to do when he comes over there and wants to run things? While most of us schmucks not only have to work without question with whoever the company hires, but ones who hate their job, sabotage other peoples' work, and scheme to get the supervisor fired or afraid of them. These players should recognize that their teammates, coaches, and F.O basically all have the same goal as them. |
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Post by TEM on Feb 25, 2021 13:58:26 GMT -5
I'm getting sick of these QB's that get paid $30+M per year and are whining because they also want to run the organization. Shut the f*** up and play football like we pay you handsomely to do. What are the Jets going to do when he comes over there and wants to run things? I agree. They get payed to play QB. That is it. |
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Post by te88 on Feb 25, 2021 14:06:57 GMT -5
I'm getting sick of these QB's that get paid $30+M per year and are whining because they also want to run the organization. Shut the f*** up and play football like we pay you handsomely to do. What are the Jets going to do when he comes over there and wants to run things? Me too. If I was running Houston or Seattle I would have a sit down and put these clowns in their place. As for this story it is not quite true. He has not requested a trade. He has expressed how he wants the team run/focused and similar to Watson doesn’t feel he is being listened to (yawn). His statement at this point is “I don’t want to be traded but if you do, you can only send me to these teams: Chicago Dallas Las Vegas New Orleans |
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Post by TEM on Feb 25, 2021 14:10:32 GMT -5
IMO: This will affect the amount of up front money (signing bonus) players get. Just take Watson 29 million in signing bonus in September. Wants to be traded . If he does the team eats it in dead cap. Now Willison 65 million signing bonus .If traded 39 in dead cap. I do not see owners allowing this fleecing of dead cap money to continue. It is either going to be a small singing bonus or pay back remainder of signing bonus clause in contracts for trade requests.
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 25, 2021 14:16:03 GMT -5
I'm getting sick of these QB's that get paid $30+M per year and are whining because they also want to run the organization. Shut the f*** up and play football like we pay you handsomely to do. What are the Jets going to do when he comes over there and wants to run things? Me too. If I was running Houston or Seattle I would have a sit down and put these clowns in their place. As for this story it is not quite true. He has not requested a trade. He has expressed how he wants the team run/focused and similar to Watson doesn’t feel he is being listened to (yawn). His statement at this point is “I don’t want to be traded but if you do, you can only send me to these teams: Chicago Dallas Las Vegas New Orleans That's even worse. The guy has a 140 million dollar contract...players are so spoiled now it's pretty comical. So he expressed he's open to a trade and on top of that wants to dictate how the owners and management deal him. I think this type of stuff will make fans pick up a new hobby on Sundays that isn't watching football games. I can see why Coughlin got ran out of the league last year by the NFLPA considering how things are now. So..yeah...I don't think the current company I work for is the best for my career. I want to get traded to Google, Apple, or Amazon, lol. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 25, 2021 14:23:39 GMT -5
Me too. If I was running Houston or Seattle I would have a sit down and put these clowns in their place. As for this story it is not quite true. He has not requested a trade. He has expressed how he wants the team run/focused and similar to Watson doesn’t feel he is being listened to (yawn). His statement at this point is “I don’t want to be traded but if you do, you can only send me to these teams: Chicago Dallas Las Vegas New Orleans That's even worse. The guy has a 140 million dollar contract...players are so spoiled now it's pretty comical. So he expressed he's open to a trade and on top of that wants to dictate how the owners and management deal him. I think this type of stuff will make fans pick up a new hobby on Sundays that isn't watching football games. I can see why Coughlin got ran out of the league last year by the NFLPA considering how things are now. So..yeah...I don't think the current company I work for is the best for my career. I want to get traded to Google, Apple, or Amazon, lol. Didn't Coughlin win his first Superbowl after he started listening to his players? |
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Post by te88 on Feb 25, 2021 14:24:15 GMT -5
IMO: This will affect the amount of up front money (signing bonus) players get. Just take Watson 29 million in signing bonus in September. Wants to be traded . If he does the team eats it in dead cap. Now Willison 65 million signing bonus .If traded 39 in dead cap. I do not see owners allowing this fleecing of dead cap money to continue. It is either going to be a small singing bonus or pay back remainder of signing bonus clause in contracts for trade requests. I would think that would be a bare minimum consideration and probably a good way to squash this kind of behaviour. “Ok you can be traded. But I want the whole signing bonus back plus additional funds to compensate my organization for the loss” otherwise put the screws to these guys. I would let them sit out and withhold salary if I had to. Hey at least the guy is not playing for another team and kicking my ass |
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 25, 2021 14:26:53 GMT -5
Russell Wilson must not be aware of the Jets history. They’re a black hole in regards to a franchise. You have to deal with the pressure of playing in NY, so every mistake will be over analyzed. The term “media circus.” Is true and it’s relentless. And last, it’s the Jets.. Why don’t you ask to be traded to Saudi Arabia while you’re at it. I’m surprised at this. Seattle is a great franchise that has stayed relevant for sometime now. Why would he want to take what he helped build and run for the hills? Too bad he doesn’t want to come here. Then again, I don’t blame him. I think he is looking for marketing oppurtunities. He already has his Superbowl ring. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 25, 2021 14:31:54 GMT -5
I really hope he doesn't go to Dallas...
Its something I could see Jerry going after though.
I would part with DJ, SQB and our 1st rounder for Wilson right now
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 25, 2021 15:32:47 GMT -5
I really hope he doesn't go to Dallas... Its something I could see Jerry going after though. I would part with DJ, SQB and our 1st rounder for Wilson right now They are going to want more than that... Arguably a HOf qb still in his prime.. |
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Post by Nite on Feb 25, 2021 15:40:16 GMT -5
It shows you how far this franchise has fallen. 15 wins in the last 3 years. The Chiefs alone won 14 last year. We need binoculars to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's not just that. If you ask most Giants fans they will tell you that they're happy with the "direction" the team is headed.
The low expectations of fans contribute to the lack of accountability this FO is faced with.
Apparently thats what the fans want so the owners is giving it to them. Low expectations, low quality, high prices
Fans here are ok with losing. Don't get it. never will
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Post by Speedman on Feb 25, 2021 15:54:45 GMT -5
All this talk of fans being ok with losing is bullshit. No one wants their team to lose, but what is the alternative. Only one I see is to switch teams.
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Post by Morehead State on Feb 25, 2021 16:00:39 GMT -5
All this talk of fans being ok with losing is bullshit. No one wants their team to lose, but what is the alternative. Only one I see is to switch teams. Take a poll here. You'll find a majority are happy with the direction of the team.
I say 15 wins in 3 years is horrific. Really, it's 18 wins in 4 years. There are no excuses. Yet fans will offer up a number of them.
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Post by nyg2 on Feb 25, 2021 16:08:57 GMT -5
I really hope he doesn't go to Dallas... Its something I could see Jerry going after though. I would part with DJ, SQB and our 1st rounder for Wilson right now Definitely could see Russell heading to Dallas, Jerry doesn't want Dak at $40+ million, so maybe a tag and trade. With him possibly throwing 2 first round picks as well. |
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Post by Nick6475 on Feb 25, 2021 16:22:34 GMT -5
All this talk of fans being ok with losing is bullshit. No one wants their team to lose, but what is the alternative. Only one I see is to switch teams. Take a poll here. You'll find a majority are happy with the direction of the team.
I say 15 wins in 3 years is horrific. Really, it's 18 wins in 4 years. There are no excuses. Yet fans will offer up a number of them.
Very true. There is a population of fans that have this perspective since DG was hired. DG gets hired: "Nice, he did well with the Panthers and is familiar with the Giants, good move." After Year 1: "He has to get a feel for the team and now Eli is gone so he can rebuild." After Year 2: "Every rebuild takes at least 2 years, like what he has done, give him and DJ another year." After Year 3: "Bringing in JJ is great, they really played hard this year, just add a WR, TE, DE, CB, OT, OG and we are good, DJ really needs 3 years to be evaluated." |
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 25, 2021 16:24:24 GMT -5
my advice to any player who wishes to go to the Jets is be very careful what you wish for because you just might get it..
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 25, 2021 16:26:13 GMT -5
I really hope he doesn't go to Dallas... Its something I could see Jerry going after though. I would part with DJ, SQB and our 1st rounder for Wilson right now I could see Wilson going to Dallas or possibly Houston.. |
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Post by GameTime on Feb 25, 2021 16:59:02 GMT -5
dont care and it wont happen
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 25, 2021 18:10:57 GMT -5
All this talk of fans being ok with losing is bullshit. No one wants their team to lose, but what is the alternative. Only one I see is to switch teams. I've known a few people who have switched teams quite a few times, as the ones they were temporarily with had dry spell. One thing in common, they were all NYer "Cowboy Fans" in the 90s. Pathetic. I've stuck with a bunch of much more significant things in life through great duress, and eventually persevered. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Feb 25, 2021 18:55:43 GMT -5
All this talk of fans being ok with losing is bullshit. No one wants their team to lose, but what is the alternative. Only one I see is to switch teams. You have virtually zero ability to change anything about how the team operates, what you can change is your attitude toward it. Maybe try posting more angrily. Advocating for a lot of fantasy football style changes and then distancing yourself from them if they don't work out, that kind of thing. Because ultimately it doesn't matter what you say or suggest or advocate for because it has no bearing on the team anyway. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 25, 2021 19:10:28 GMT -5
This years QB movement is unmatched like anything we've ever seen in at least 60years. # starters already traded Wentz, (if he's a starter) Geoff, and Stafford. Another 3-6 being rumored to move. I honestly can't get enough of it. They've hooked me in.
These QB's getting 35-40 mil supposedly in a year when the cap is going down is like 20% of the cap. 40 mil on a 200 mil cap is 20%. Then QB's like Rogers and Wilson are complaining they don't have enough good players around them. What Balls !
Can't have your cake and eat it too. Not this year.
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Post by SG88 on Feb 25, 2021 22:06:15 GMT -5
The funny thing about this thread is that he did NOT request a trade and simply stated the places he would like to go to if he were to be traded.
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