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Post by thetruth on Mar 13, 2021 0:25:55 GMT -5
This is excellent news. Best OL trainer out there.
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Post by allnygin on Mar 13, 2021 0:39:35 GMT -5
I bELIeve in Will!
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Post by McCherry on Mar 13, 2021 1:22:03 GMT -5
Spelling aside... Word was he was overweight last season and the coaches are sending him a challenge to be more athletic and mobile as the veteran leader of the OL... I’m sure the usually peanut gallery will show up in this thread to say how much he sucks and how Gettleman sucks, but this is encouraging news.
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 13, 2021 2:12:59 GMT -5
Prior, to KZ release, I was going to begin a thread . Whether , Hernandez will be traded prior to the draft. I would think, the Giants can get a 5th round draft pick, for Hernandez. Giants like bigger OL men. Plus , he has been average as best, in his tenure as a Giant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 5:56:09 GMT -5
Spelling aside... Word was he was overweight last season and the coaches are sending him a challenge to be more athletic and mobile as the veteran leader of the OL... I’m sure the usually peanut gallery will show up in this thread to say how much he sucks and how Gettleman sucks, but this is encouraging news. Hernandez being overweight is the reason he was sitting for the better zone blocking guard Lemieux. Nothing wrong with being a fat guard, if you are just hitting gaps...but if you are not known for pulling, zone blocking ect...and the coaching staff wants that...you lose weight. It will be seen if his lost weight effects any other style blocking required and he loses pass blocks with bull rushes. Sounds like we're going Lemieux and Hernandez as zone blocking guards this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 5:57:57 GMT -5
Prior, to KZ release, I was going to begin a thread . Whether , Hernandez will be traded prior to the draft. I would think, the Giants can get a 5th round draft pick, for Hernandez. Giants like bigger OL men. Plus , he has been average as best, in his tenure as a Giant. Not sure if we are wanting gap beasts anymore...this lighter Will tells me we're looking for more athletic blockers for the zones.
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Post by hadenough on Mar 13, 2021 6:28:07 GMT -5
I think people forget that Wil is still a pretty decent lineman.
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Post by TEM on Mar 13, 2021 6:54:24 GMT -5
We need him to step up and live up to his draft hype.
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Post by moecoastie on Mar 13, 2021 7:01:32 GMT -5
Hopefully he can make the transition to RG. I see in the video he is training both sides.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 13, 2021 8:53:52 GMT -5
He had a rough season and a half. he has the tools now he just needs the competitive drive to kick ass on an everyday basis.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 13, 2021 8:58:52 GMT -5
He is an upgrade over what was here before he arrived however, he still needs to grow into what was expected from that pick.
I am rooting for him.
Nice feet in both directions.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 13, 2021 9:22:58 GMT -5
I think people forget that Wil is still a pretty decent lineman. That’s the problem. Being a “decent” player just doesn’t cut it anymore. He was drafted to be a anchor on our line, settling for an ok player is the very reason why we’re struggling at the position.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 13, 2021 10:14:18 GMT -5
Prior, to KZ release, I was going to begin a thread . Whether , Hernandez will be traded prior to the draft. I would think, the Giants can get a 5th round draft pick, for Hernandez. Giants like bigger OL men. Plus , he has been average as best, in his tenure as a Giant. IMO Hernandez should stay and start the season as a starter. We want to draft another Guard with a 5th rd pick thats fine. Keep as much of this OL together as possible. The right side is going to be new. Cause Lemuix I assume is moving to the right side with Solder. But now that I think about it maybe it would be better to move Hernandez to the right side. Hernandez and Solder played good together on the left side. Remember 2 years ago they never missed a snap together. But I do agree with you another big strong Guard should be coming in the mid rds of the draft.
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 13, 2021 10:19:14 GMT -5
If Hernandez can make 2021 a positive year, that will soften the blow of losing KZ mightily. He has just been on a downfall since he was drafted. Had a solid rookie season with promise, took a step back in 2019 and then lost a lot of playing time to a 5th Rd rookie in 2020.
Tomorrow will be interesting with the legal tampering window opening soon.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 13, 2021 10:24:16 GMT -5
He had a rough season and a half. he has the tools now he just needs the competitive drive to kick ass on an everyday basis. hopefully this was just a Covid setback. Appears to vary how people bounce back.
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Post by TEM on Mar 13, 2021 10:47:53 GMT -5
He had a rough season and a half. he has the tools now he just needs the competitive drive to kick ass on an everyday basis. hopefully this was just a Covid setback. Appears to vary how people bounce back. I hope that is the case. But he has not done good with any LT next to him. Neither have the LTs done good with him. That ensues the question .Is the LG effecting the LT's play or is the LT effecting the LG's play? It could be both, But Thomas was better with Lemieux next to him . Was that due to him getting a feel for the NFL game or changing the LG? There are a lot of questions with him.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 13, 2021 11:15:57 GMT -5
Willl H Has talent he is changing his body to fit the scheme he is playing in dude is strong as a bull and there is an opening on the right side of the OL Duke will have him ready to go. Rather him succeed and extend him then trade or let him walk.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 13, 2021 11:17:43 GMT -5
hopefully this was just a Covid setback. Appears to vary how people bounce back. I hope that is the case. But he has not done good with any LT next to him. Neither have the LTs done good with him. That ensues the question .Is the LG effecting the LT's play or is the LT effecting the LG's play? It could be both, But Thomas was better with Lemieux next to him . Was that due to him getting a feel for the NFL game or changing the LG? There are a lot of questions with him. His rookie year him and Solder got it going about 6 games in I think he came in not ready for the new scheme.
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Post by TEM on Mar 13, 2021 11:22:51 GMT -5
I hope that is the case. But he has not done good with any LT next to him. Neither have the LTs done good with him. That ensues the question .Is the LG effecting the LT's play or is the LT effecting the LG's play? It could be both, But Thomas was better with Lemieux next to him . Was that due to him getting a feel for the NFL game or changing the LG? There are a lot of questions with him. His rookie year him and Solder got it going about 6 games in I think he came in not ready for the new scheme. That is possible .
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 13, 2021 11:28:02 GMT -5
His rookie year him and Solder got it going about 6 games in I think he came in not ready for the new scheme. That is possible . He doesn't look all bloated up anymore he looked good in those pics and Manyweather is excellent.
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Post by TEM on Mar 13, 2021 12:16:35 GMT -5
He doesn't look all bloated up anymore he looked good in those pics and Manyweather is excellent. I do not know much about him .I have read LeCharles Bently's O-line training academy very good.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 13, 2021 12:43:35 GMT -5
He had a rough season and a half. he has the tools now he just needs the competitive drive to kick ass on an everyday basis. hopefully this was just a Covid setback. Appears to vary how people bounce back. Covid or whatever the kid has the skills he just needs to get back in the groove. Besides Lemeuix is far from a sure thing and some folks saying Hernandez has to move to the right side. I say move Lemeuix if needed. Its not like he shined as a LG .
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Post by TEM on Mar 13, 2021 12:47:31 GMT -5
hopefully this was just a Covid setback. Appears to vary how people bounce back. Covid or whatever the kid has the skills he just needs to get back in the groove. Besides Lemeuix is far from a sure thing and some folks saying Hernandez has to move to the right side. I say move Lemeuix if needed. Its not like he shined as a LG . We Han not a good LG since Boothe. We need him to step up.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 13, 2021 17:19:38 GMT -5
Not giving up on Will Hernandez, would love for him and Lemieux to Develop into our starting Guards for years to come but of course they should bring in a Veteran Guard much Cheaper than Zeitler to compete and push them
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Post by thetruth on Mar 13, 2021 17:28:18 GMT -5
He is an upgrade over what was here before he arrived however, he still needs to grow into what was expected from that pick. I am rooting for him. Nice feet in both directions. The fact that he's seeing Duke Manyweather is SUCH a plus. Duke's knowledge is second to none and so is his track record, did a bunch of work with Becton last year to get him in shape along with many of the best OL in the league, currently. DUke's doing the same with Slater this year. Who many of the best analysts are saying is OL#1 and who I think the Giants should take at #11 if he's there, over all WR/TE's. Im looking for a big improvement from Hernendez if he keeps on this route. He needs to put in the work, contract is coming due. Lets hope we have a hit here
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 13, 2021 17:56:43 GMT -5
He is an upgrade over what was here before he arrived however, he still needs to grow into what was expected from that pick. I am rooting for him. Nice feet in both directions. The fact that he's seeing Duke Manyweather is SUCH a plus. Duke's knowledge is second to none and so is his track record, did a bunch of work with Becton last year to get him in shape along with many of the best OL in the league, currently. DUke's doing the same with Slater this year. Who many of the best analysts are saying is OL#1 and who I think the Giants should take at #11 if he's there, over all WR/TE's.Im looking for a big improvement from Hernendez if he keeps on this route. He needs to put in the work, contract is coming due. Lets hope we have a hit here While I really like the 3WR's and Pitts, if they went this route, I would not complain. Personally, this year, I'd probably take one of the 4 if available, but I think Slater is a really good prospect.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 13, 2021 18:00:14 GMT -5
The fact that he's seeing Duke Manyweather is SUCH a plus. Duke's knowledge is second to none and so is his track record, did a bunch of work with Becton last year to get him in shape along with many of the best OL in the league, currently. DUke's doing the same with Slater this year. Who many of the best analysts are saying is OL#1 and who I think the Giants should take at #11 if he's there, over all WR/TE's.Im looking for a big improvement from Hernendez if he keeps on this route. He needs to put in the work, contract is coming due. Lets hope we have a hit here While I really like the 3WR's and Pitts, if they went this route, I would not complain. Personally, this year, I'd probably take one of the 4 if available, but I think Slater is a really good prospect. Its just so hard to find OT/OG's that can truly be great. WR's will be there in the second/third and damn good ones, considering how deep this class is. The OT class is classically pretty shallow. Thats why its so valuable, I think either Slater or Sewell might actually be there, if so, easy decision for me. Especially if 5 QB's go in the top 10. I just hope Dallas doesn't take one of them, which they likely will if they're smart. Daniel Jones above all else needs time. Im confident in his ability if we can provide him that.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 13, 2021 18:04:21 GMT -5
The fact that he's seeing Duke Manyweather is SUCH a plus. Duke's knowledge is second to none and so is his track record, did a bunch of work with Becton last year to get him in shape along with many of the best OL in the league, currently. DUke's doing the same with Slater this year. Who many of the best analysts are saying is OL#1 and who I think the Giants should take at #11 if he's there, over all WR/TE's.Im looking for a big improvement from Hernendez if he keeps on this route. He needs to put in the work, contract is coming due. Lets hope we have a hit here While I really like the 3WR's and Pitts, if they went this route, I would not complain. Personally, this year, I'd probably take one of the 4 if available, but I think Slater is a really good prospect. I can't see Slater as an option now that they're bringing Solder back.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 13, 2021 18:05:55 GMT -5
While I really like the 3WR's and Pitts, if they went this route, I would not complain. Personally, this year, I'd probably take one of the 4 if available, but I think Slater is a really good prospect. I can't see Slater as an option now that they're bringing Solder back. depends on how much they slash his salary.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 13, 2021 18:11:24 GMT -5
While I really like the 3WR's and Pitts, if they went this route, I would not complain. Personally, this year, I'd probably take one of the 4 if available, but I think Slater is a really good prospect. I can't see Slater as an option now that they're bringing Solder back. Ereck Flowers sacks allowed in 3 seasons with NYG: 15 Nate Solder sacks allowed in 2 seasons with NYG: 18 Solder also hasn't played in a long time. He cant be treated as a solution to one of the most important positions on offence going into next year, neither should Peart. I would argue that Slater would be an excellent OG, even better than he projects at OT. Reminds me a lot of Wirfs. That kind of flexibility is exactly what this team needs and above all else, what Daniel Jones needs. He's brilliant when kept clean with the current receiving options. When the pressure accumulates is when he makes mistake(s). Not to mention, Slater will be tremendous in the run game as well.
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