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Post by scoostraw on Mar 25, 2021 10:25:33 GMT -5
As much as I hope Saquon comes back 100% and stays healthy, I am not banking on that happening.
I want Gallman on this roster.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 25, 2021 10:48:30 GMT -5
I’m not talking about why he wasn’t retained. That’s old news now. I’m talking about him playing special teams. You said backups have to play special teams, well I gave you a prime example how that isn’t true. And you’re referencing the three head coaches he played for? Two of them will never be a head coach again in this league. And the other one is still wet behind the ears. Barkley has a lot to do with who plays backup to him. The back up will rarely get snaps, and he has to play special teams. Something Gallman clearly can’t do. Hence, why he is always in the everlasting dog house. Last year, by no other choice he had to play. And he played very well. Judge gave two washed up backs a chance before he gave the reigns to Gallman. And you’re referencing the three head coaches he played for? Two of them will never be a head coach again in this league. And the other one is still wet behind the ears. That applies because ? The HC coach specifically stated he wants players that are versatile. You seem to have omitted that. If Gallman was . Do you think the HC would have used him in that way? Now you know my theory on why he was let walk. Besides " This is the Saquon Barkley treatment" Which looks to be misleading because of the Biooker signing. Also your if TC did it this way every Giant HC after him should do it that way does not pass the the logic test. You explain why Gallman is not on the roster? I hate explaining things that are laid out in front of you. Ben McAdoo lasted a year and half with us, it was so bad he was the first Giants head coach who was fired mid season. So, his ability to run a team should be questioned. Pat Shurmur, who lasted a half a season longer than McAdoo is the next coach in question. Are we going to take one of the worst head coaches by win percentage seriously? Two individuals who by all purposes were terrible at what they do. I’m presenting holes in your theory.. I know your theory, it’s true to a point. The big loophole is we drafted a running back 2nd overall. Dime a dozen backs can’t run in-between the tackles, block and catch out of the backfield. Gallman may not be a star, but he is more than capable of playing in this league. The only logical reason for him not being on the roster is he doesn’t play special teams. Something Booker does do.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2021 10:55:41 GMT -5
And you’re referencing the three head coaches he played for? Two of them will never be a head coach again in this league. And the other one is still wet behind the ears. That applies because ? The HC coach specifically stated he wants players that are versatile. You seem to have omitted that. If Gallman was . Do you think the HC would have used him in that way? Now you know my theory on why he was let walk. Besides " This is the Saquon Barkley treatment" Which looks to be misleading because of the Biooker signing. Also your if TC did it this way every Giant HC after him should do it that way does not pass the the logic test. You explain why Gallman is not on the roster? I hate explaining things that are laid out in front of you. Ben McAdoo lasted a year and half with us, it was so bad he was the first Giants head coach who was fired mid season. So, his ability to run a team should be questioned. Pat Shurmur, who lasted a half a season longer than McAdoo is the next coach in question. Are we going to take one of the worst head coaches by win percentage seriously? Two individuals who by all purposes were terrible at what they do. I’m presenting holes in your theory.. I know your theory, it’s true to a point. The big loophole is we drafted a running back 2nd overall. Dime a dozen backs can’t run in-between the tackles, block and catch out of the backfield. Gallman may not be a star, but he is more than capable of playing in this league. The only logical reason for him not being on the roster is he doesn’t play special teams. Something Booker does do. So if you agree with my point . What is your contention with the point I am making? I still do not get the Barkley point if this? What effect does he have on Gallman being on the team or not? I fail to see that connection?
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 25, 2021 10:56:36 GMT -5
So I have, and to that I say this heckling kid ain't cool.
Cam needed to walk a way from that kid. Do you think he's Gunner? LOL
He certainly did. Not a proud moment for Cam or that kid's parent.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 25, 2021 11:04:54 GMT -5
I hate explaining things that are laid out in front of you. Ben McAdoo lasted a year and half with us, it was so bad he was the first Giants head coach who was fired mid season. So, his ability to run a team should be questioned. Pat Shurmur, who lasted a half a season longer than McAdoo is the next coach in question. Are we going to take one of the worst head coaches by win percentage seriously? Two individuals who by all purposes were terrible at what they do. I’m presenting holes in your theory.. I know your theory, it’s true to a point. The big loophole is we drafted a running back 2nd overall. Dime a dozen backs can’t run in-between the tackles, block and catch out of the backfield. Gallman may not be a star, but he is more than capable of playing in this league. The only logical reason for him not being on the roster is he doesn’t play special teams. Something Booker does do. So if you agree with my point . What is your contention with the point I am making? I still do not get the Barkley point if this? What effect does he have on Gallman being on the team or not? I fail to see that connection? Simple. Barkley has of course no say on who is on the roster. His presence on a team though makes the backup limited in what he can do. You have to play special teams if Barkley is healthy and on the roster. Also, I can factor in salary. The Giants are not going to invest in two running backs, Barkley is due $10.1 next season. To put that in perspective, the 3rd and 4th leading rushers in the league don’t make what Barkley makes in a season.
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Post by Delicreep on Mar 25, 2021 11:13:36 GMT -5
Who knows all I see is the present time. He's currently a FA despite his 2020 film, which I'm pretty sure his agent has been sending out to the LG We're only a week into free agency. plenty of guys are signed weeks and weeks after FA starts. I'm sure he'll find a team. Boy...it would not surise me if he was waiting and hoping for a chance to compete or share snaps. Or for the inevitable injury.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2021 11:15:04 GMT -5
So if you agree with my point . What is your contention with the point I am making? I still do not get the Barkley point if this? What effect does he have on Gallman being on the team or not? I fail to see that connection? Simple. Barkley has of course no say on who is on the roster. His presence on a team though makes the backup limited in what he can do. You have to play special teams if Barkley is healthy and on the roster. Also, I can factor in salary. The Giants are not going to invest in two running backs, Barkley is due $10.1 next season. To put that in perspective, the 3rd and 4th leading rushers in the league don’t make what Barkley makes in a season. I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 11:35:15 GMT -5
Simple. Barkley has of course no say on who is on the roster. His presence on a team though makes the backup limited in what he can do. You have to play special teams if Barkley is healthy and on the roster. Also, I can factor in salary. The Giants are not going to invest in two running backs, Barkley is due $10.1 next season. To put that in perspective, the 3rd and 4th leading rushers in the league don’t make what Barkley makes in a season. I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that. Someone mentioned he may want to get a starting gig somewhere. Maybe he comes back when reality sets in. I like him a lot so I would be good with that.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 25, 2021 11:41:27 GMT -5
I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that. Someone mentioned he may want to get a starting gig somewhere. Maybe he comes back when reality sets in. I like him a lot so I would be good with that. There are very few "starting" RB's in the NFL. Most backfields are shared.
I can see him fitting in to a shared backfield because he's a tough inside runner.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 11:44:41 GMT -5
Someone mentioned he may want to get a starting gig somewhere. Maybe he comes back when reality sets in. I like him a lot so I would be good with that. There are very few "starting" RB's in the NFL. Most backfields are shared.
I can see him fitting in to a shared backfield because he's a tough inside runner.
Ok....Featured. Better?
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 25, 2021 11:49:56 GMT -5
There are very few "starting" RB's in the NFL. Most backfields are shared.
I can see him fitting in to a shared backfield because he's a tough inside runner.
Ok....Featured. Better? It wasn't a critique of your post. I was just making conversation.
That aside, I really don't think many teams have one guy who gets the brunt of the carries. It's not like the old days. If they do, they are limiting themselves in my view.
I think WE need one more good back and I hope we draft one in the mid rounds. But I think Gallman is gone. Another JR guy purged from the team. I hope Gallman finds a good situation because he's a good RB. But he would definitely be a complementary back.
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Post by scoostraw on Mar 25, 2021 11:55:21 GMT -5
Another JR guy purged from the team. Who is left now - just Shep?
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Post by te88 on Mar 25, 2021 11:56:31 GMT -5
I would love to have him back. 3 RB is a good thing. In my opinion he is better than Booker.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 25, 2021 11:57:36 GMT -5
Simple. Barkley has of course no say on who is on the roster. His presence on a team though makes the backup limited in what he can do. You have to play special teams if Barkley is healthy and on the roster. Also, I can factor in salary. The Giants are not going to invest in two running backs, Barkley is due $10.1 next season. To put that in perspective, the 3rd and 4th leading rushers in the league don’t make what Barkley makes in a season. I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that. No one knows. We’re merely speculating. My opinion? He’s waiting for that perfect opportunity. Why rush for a job, when you still have time? If he’s waiting to get paid, he might be waiting for a long time. Doesn’t seem to be a list of teams banging on his door step. I don’t think the Giants ever intended on bringing him back. Even if Gallman said he would play for free.. Judge and company had their eye on a player who fits into their plan. This fan base seems to appreciate Gallman way more than the team he played for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 11:58:29 GMT -5
Another JR guy purged from the team. Who is left now - just Shep? The TE who's name isn't to be spoken ever again is also..
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 25, 2021 11:59:49 GMT -5
Another JR guy purged from the team. Who is left now - just Shep? And Engram.
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Post by te88 on Mar 25, 2021 12:10:17 GMT -5
Who is left now - just Shep? And Engram. The exorcism of Jerry Reese
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 12:16:18 GMT -5
It wasn't a critique of your post. I was just making conversation.
That aside, I really don't think many teams have one guy who gets the brunt of the carries. It's not like the old days. If they do, they are limiting themselves in my view.
I think WE need one more good back and I hope we draft one in the mid rounds. But I think Gallman is gone. Another JR guy purged from the team. I hope Gallman finds a good situation because he's a good RB. But he would definitely be a complementary back.
I didn't think you were critiquing me. Just busting balls. It always seemed to me that the Giants undervalued Gallman and that he proved himself last year. Maybe it was because his last play as a Giant he fumbled the ball and almost blew the game? If that is the case, EE should be gone
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 25, 2021 12:19:22 GMT -5
It wasn't a critique of your post. I was just making conversation.
That aside, I really don't think many teams have one guy who gets the brunt of the carries. It's not like the old days. If they do, they are limiting themselves in my view.
I think WE need one more good back and I hope we draft one in the mid rounds. But I think Gallman is gone. Another JR guy purged from the team. I hope Gallman finds a good situation because he's a good RB. But he would definitely be a complementary back.
I didn't think you were critiquing me. Just busting balls. It always seemed to me that the Giants undervalued Gallman and that he proved himself last year. Maybe it was because his last play as a Giant he fumbled the ball and almost blew the game? If that is the case, EE should be gone As I said before, he also had the biggest play of the season at Seattle.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 25, 2021 12:28:57 GMT -5
I didn't think you were critiquing me. Just busting balls. It always seemed to me that the Giants undervalued Gallman and that he proved himself last year. Maybe it was because his last play as a Giant he fumbled the ball and almost blew the game? If that is the case, EE should be gone As I said before, he also had the biggest play of the season at Seattle. Engram is not the type of football player Gettlemen likes. Especially when you consider who drafted him. However. Because now Judge truly runs the team it doesn't matter what DG thinks
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 25, 2021 12:50:54 GMT -5
The exorcism of Jerry Reese lol!
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Post by jerky on Mar 25, 2021 13:01:19 GMT -5
Who are you serving by pretending to know about Wayne's free agency?
Reality.
Sayless
Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. So far Gallman's salary is zero K. 🤷🏿♂️ That's interesting. You've never heard of the phrase, "lies, damn lies, and statistics?" Numbers lie most of all.
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Post by bluejayc on Mar 25, 2021 13:22:36 GMT -5
Would love it if Gallman returned.....career avg of 4.6 yards a touch.....his best year was 2020 (albeit due to SB's injury).....I feel like Gallman is the Brett Jones of the Giants......does well when he gets his opportunities but the coaching staff for some reason or another keeps taking reps away and giving them to other guys.
If he hasn't gotten any offers yet it could be due to the fact that his final carry of the season and maybe as a Giant was almost as bad as the butt fumble. Not a good look dropping the ball without a soul around you and covering it with your ass like a hen.
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Post by DJones19 on Mar 25, 2021 13:53:57 GMT -5
Gallman has had ball security issues for a while, makes me a little uneasy. 7 fumbles in a little over 300 carries...not good.
Filled in nicely last year but didn't really outshide Morris by much who could only make a practice squad. Gallman would be nice to retain but maybe the cash has ran out.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 25, 2021 16:16:23 GMT -5
Who is left now - just Shep? And Engram. Engram is a perfect metaphor for a JR kind of guy.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 25, 2021 16:17:38 GMT -5
Engram is a perfect metaphor for a JR kind of guy. One who's won 2 Superbowls?
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2021 16:17:57 GMT -5
I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that. Someone mentioned he may want to get a starting gig somewhere. Maybe he comes back when reality sets in. I like him a lot so I would be good with that. That could be true.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2021 16:19:12 GMT -5
I still do not see how that would have affected Gallman getting the 3 million a year that Booker received . This is the page I am on . Not what Barkley is paid .It is the contract value of Wayne Gallman. Did he want more? It is rare for a backup to be paid more than that. No one knows. We’re merely speculating. My opinion? He’s waiting for that perfect opportunity. Why rush for a job, when you still have time? If he’s waiting to get paid, he might be waiting for a long time. Doesn’t seem to be a list of teams banging on his door step. I don’t think the Giants ever intended on bringing him back. Even if Gallman said he would play for free.. Judge and company had their eye on a player who fits into their plan. This fan base seems to appreciate Gallman way more than the team he played for. I agree.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 25, 2021 16:52:01 GMT -5
Engram is a perfect metaphor for a JR kind of guy. One who's won 2 Superbowls? I though TC delivered those?
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Post by thetruth on Mar 25, 2021 16:53:49 GMT -5
Engram is a perfect metaphor for a JR kind of guy. Ogletree is a perfect metaphor for a DG kind of guy. We can do this all day. $10 bucks says I can have more than you.
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