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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 8, 2021 12:44:51 GMT -5
Never knew saying, "Happy Birthday XXX" was so full of moral judgements. Now you know. It’s Maurice Cartons birthday in a few weeks. Might as well get this out of the way. Thanks a lot for dropping that easy touchdown in the NFC Championship game you jerk.. Maybe we should stop the Bday stuff we stopped with the cake and ice cream at 13 lol in my family, can't break my wife tho it's been 31 years don't think it's happening.
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 8, 2021 14:04:18 GMT -5
Never knew saying, "Happy Birthday XXX" was so full of moral judgements. Now you know. It’s Maurice Cartons birthday in a few weeks. Might as well get this out of the way. Thanks a lot for dropping that easy touchdown in the NFC Championship game you jerk.. I hear he also never gives to charity.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 8, 2021 14:35:40 GMT -5
You like it when Giants fans are petty and small? They have that right as fans. Just like you with Gettleman. Not that it would ever come up....But I would never boo Dave Gettleman.
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Post by te88 on Apr 8, 2021 15:28:43 GMT -5
They have that right as fans. Just like you with Gettleman. Not that it would ever come up....But I would never boo Dave Gettleman. Giants fans that boo Tiki are the same fans who were booing and calling Eli Manning a bust in ‘04, ‘05, and ‘06. The mob is a hypocritical dope.
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 8, 2021 15:32:57 GMT -5
Tiki was an excellent RB for the Giants and I loved watching him play but I never understood why he chose to crap his pants when he put TC and Eli down to the media...
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 8, 2021 16:31:35 GMT -5
Not that it would ever come up....But I would never boo Dave Gettleman. Giants fans that boo Tiki are the same fans who were booing and calling Eli Manning a bust in ‘04, ‘05, and ‘06. The mob is a hypocritical dope. I disagree with the comparison. Tiki was booed for what he said and supposedly did after he retired. There is no question that he was a great player.
If anyone booed Eli, it was just about his play.
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Post by te88 on Apr 8, 2021 17:33:55 GMT -5
Giants fans that boo Tiki are the same fans who were booing and calling Eli Manning a bust in ‘04, ‘05, and ‘06. The mob is a hypocritical dope. I disagree with the comparison. Tiki was booed for what he said and supposedly did after he retired. There is no question that he was a great player.
If anyone booed Eli, it was just about his play.
Just saying the majority of them are one and the same people. The comments Tiki made “against the team” is all the very same stuff the fan-mob were saying ad-nauseum for those 3 years. TC sucks, TC is old, Eli sucks, Eli can’t lead, the veterans don’t respect Eli etc. Now many of those same people pretend they always believed in Coughlin and Eli. For me the Tiki hate is just a projection by the majority of fans (who are shallow) trying to bury their own BS. Not all, I accept that some people just dislike him. But the majority (you know, the people that boo him at the ring of honour).
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Post by Jomo on Apr 8, 2021 17:42:36 GMT -5
I disagree with the comparison. Tiki was booed for what he said and supposedly did after he retired. There is no question that he was a great player.
If anyone booed Eli, it was just about his play.
Just saying the majority of them are one and the same people. The comments Tiki made “against the team” is all the very same stuff the fan-mob were saying ad-nauseum for those 3 years. TC sucks, TC is old, Eli sucks, Eli can’t lead, the veterans don’t respect Eli etc. Now many of those same people pretend they always believed in Coughlin and Eli. For me the Tiki hate is just a projection by the majority of fans (who are shallow) trying to bury their own BS. Not all, I accept that some people just dislike him. But the majority (you know, the people that boo him at the ring of honour). Thankfully, we swim amongst a group of deep thinkers here.
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Post by te88 on Apr 8, 2021 17:46:58 GMT -5
Just saying the majority of them are one and the same people. The comments Tiki made “against the team” is all the very same stuff the fan-mob were saying ad-nauseum for those 3 years. TC sucks, TC is old, Eli sucks, Eli can’t lead, the veterans don’t respect Eli etc. Now many of those same people pretend they always believed in Coughlin and Eli. For me the Tiki hate is just a projection by the majority of fans (who are shallow) trying to bury their own BS. Not all, I accept that some people just dislike him. But the majority (you know, the people that boo him at the ring of honour). Thankfully, we swim amongst a group of deep thinkers here. 😉
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Post by Providence on Apr 8, 2021 18:51:42 GMT -5
Agreed. He's the best RB we ever had (though my favorite is Bradshaw). I never understood the hate towards Tiki. He brought you happiness. For years. For free. And you gave him jack shit in return. Not a whole lot of relationships like that in this world.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 8, 2021 19:28:19 GMT -5
Agreed. He's the best RB we ever had (though my favorite is Bradshaw). I never understood the hate towards Tiki. He brought you happiness. For years. For free. And you gave him jack shit in return. Not a whole lot of relationships like that in this world. Who cares that he was a great player on an awful team? Thankfully, there are plenty of great ex Giant players (champions) who we can honor and cherish.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 8, 2021 22:34:29 GMT -5
Agreed. He's the best RB we ever had (though my favorite is Bradshaw). I never understood the hate towards Tiki. He brought you happiness. For years. For free. And you gave him jack shit in return. Not a whole lot of relationships like that in this world. Who cares that he was a great player on an awful team? Thankfully, there are plenty of great ex Giant players (champions) who we can honor and cherish. Spider Lockhart, Ron Johnson, Brad Van Pelt, Fran Tarkenton, John Mendenhall, Willie Williams, Bob Tucker were all great players on bad teams......would you boo them as well?
Oh and BTW. During Tiki's 10 seasons, we won 3 divisions, made the playoffs 5 times and went to a superbowl. And we were 83-76-1 while he was here.
How was he a great player on awful teams?
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 8, 2021 23:23:37 GMT -5
Not that it would ever come up....But I would never boo Dave Gettleman. Giants fans that boo Tiki are the same fans who were booing and calling Eli Manning a bust in ‘04, ‘05, and ‘06. The mob is a hypocritical dope. Yeah, no. The Giants fans that booed Tiki aren't the same fans that didn't like Eli in his first few years. They booed him because Eli proved he was wrong. Eli punked Tiki. Everyone knows that.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 8, 2021 23:29:41 GMT -5
Giants fans that boo Tiki are the same fans who were booing and calling Eli Manning a bust in ‘04, ‘05, and ‘06. The mob is a hypocritical dope. Yeah, no. The Giants fans that booed Tiki aren't the same fans that didn't like Eli in his first few years. They booed him because Eli proved he was wrong. Eli punked Tiki. Everyone knows that. I don't remember Tiki criticizing Eli's game at all. Am I missing something? All he said was that it was "comical" watching Eli trying to give a locker room speech. I didn't like Tiki sharing locker room confidences. But I'm sure he was right.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 9, 2021 9:36:18 GMT -5
Who cares that he was a great player on an awful team? Thankfully, there are plenty of great ex Giant players (champions) who we can honor and cherish. Spider Lockhart, Ron Johnson, Brad Van Pelt, Fran Tarkenton, John Mendenhall, Willie Williams, Bob Tucker were all great players on bad teams......would you boo them as well?
Oh and BTW. During Tiki's 10 seasons, we won 3 divisions, made the playoffs 5 times and went to a superbowl. And we were 83-76-1 while he was here.
How was he a great player on awful teams?
Did they trash the franchise on the way out the door?
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Post by Roswell on Apr 9, 2021 9:44:20 GMT -5
Agreed. He's the best RB we ever had (though my favorite is Bradshaw). I never understood the hate towards Tiki. He brought you happiness. For years. For free. And you gave him jack shit in return. Not a whole lot of relationships like that in this world. Who cares that he was a great player on an awful team? Thankfully, there are plenty of great ex Giant players (champions) who we can honor and cherish. Awful team? They went to a SB with Tiki.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 9:48:30 GMT -5
Spider Lockhart, Ron Johnson, Brad Van Pelt, Fran Tarkenton, John Mendenhall, Willie Williams, Bob Tucker were all great players on bad teams......would you boo them as well?
Oh and BTW. During Tiki's 10 seasons, we won 3 divisions, made the playoffs 5 times and went to a superbowl. And we were 83-76-1 while he was here.
How was he a great player on awful teams?
Did they trash the franchise on the way out the door? How did he do that?
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Post by McCherry on Apr 9, 2021 9:56:23 GMT -5
Who cares that he was a great player on an awful team? Thankfully, there are plenty of great ex Giant players (champions) who we can honor and cherish. They went to a SB with Tiki. Great memories...
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 10:07:12 GMT -5
They went to a SB with Tiki. Great memories... 41-0 was actually a great memory for me. not sure about you.
What's interesting is that winning an NFC championship is not good enough for you.....but 15-33 in the last 3 years brings on a "stay the course" attitude.
It's an interesting study in human behavior actually.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 9, 2021 10:21:16 GMT -5
41-0 was actually a great memory for me. not sure about you.
What's interesting is that winning an NFC championship is not good enough for you.....but 15-33 in the last 3 years brings on a "stay the course" attitude.
It's an interesting study in human behavior actually.
And the parade was awesome! Good times. I mean, those 4 Superbowls were okay too.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 10:30:39 GMT -5
41-0 was actually a great memory for me. not sure about you.
What's interesting is that winning an NFC championship is not good enough for you.....but 15-33 in the last 3 years brings on a "stay the course" attitude.
It's an interesting study in human behavior actually.
And the parade was awesome! Good times. I mean, those 4 Superbowls were okay too. Having lived through the 70's, I know how bad it can get. Kind of like today...the era you are so happy with.
Me?.....I was very happy and proud of that 2000 team. They overachieved.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 10:57:48 GMT -5
And the parade was awesome! Good times. I mean, those 4 Superbowls were okay too. Having lived through the 70's, I know how bad it can get. Kind of like today...the era you are so happy with.
Me?.....I was very happy and proud of that 2000 team. They overachieved. I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team...
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Post by Roswell on Apr 9, 2021 11:10:01 GMT -5
Having lived through the 70's, I know how bad it can get. Kind of like today...the era you are so happy with.
Me?.....I was very happy and proud of that 2000 team. They overachieved. I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... I thought it was a terrific team that ran into a buzzsaw. That's sports. But they had a great year. As far as Payton, if I remember this correctly, wasn't he relieved of the play calling duties when the team wasn't scoring in the mid season. Could've been a different year but I think it was the SB year. I went to that 41-0 game vs the Vikes with 2 friends who were rooting for the Vikes. I was laughing at them for like 4 hours straight. Collins was great in that game.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 11:16:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... I thought it was a terrific team that ran into a buzzsaw. That's sports. But they had a great year. As far as Payton, if I remember this correctly, wasn't he relieved of the play calling duties when the team wasn't scoring in the mid season. Could've been a different year but I think it was the SB year. I went to that 41-0 game vs the Vikes with 2 friends who were rooting for the Vikes. I was laughing at them for like 4 hours straight. Collins was great in that game. That was an odd year all around. That was one of the great defenses of all time we went up against in the SB. The Ravens proved that year that you could win with a pedestrian QB if the D is dominant enough, they were. The question about Payton and play calling rings a bell but I don't know if it was that year. That 41-0 was a real laugher but my favorite all time shut out was over the Redskins in 1986 with the wind howling 17-0 on our way to the SB.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 9, 2021 11:48:11 GMT -5
Having lived through the 70's, I know how bad it can get. Kind of like today...the era you are so happy with.
Me?.....I was very happy and proud of that 2000 team. They overachieved. I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... You bring up Christian Peter and forget the Hammer Keith Hamilton? And fan favorite Michael Barrow? And you call yourself a fan.. Someone check Jomo’s credentials. I want proof of his fandom..
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 11:58:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... You bring up Christian Peter and forget the Hammer Keith Hamilton? And fan favorite Michael Barrow? And you call yourself a fan.. Someone check Jomo’s credentials. I want proof of his fandom.. LOL, help a brother out. I am trying to do this while eating lunch! Anyway, I needed to leave some room for others to weigh in on the roster. I am slipping however, because the Hammer was one of my favorites. I missed his name when scanning the roster. Barrow was a good player too but again, I needed to leave more than crumbs for the balance of of the gang here.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 16:21:49 GMT -5
Having lived through the 70's, I know how bad it can get. Kind of like today...the era you are so happy with.
Me?.....I was very happy and proud of that 2000 team. They overachieved. I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... My wife and I had dinner with Lomas Brown a few times in Hartford, when he worked at ESPN.
He told us about the 2000 SB. He said after the first time Kerry got hit they were in the huddle and Kerry's eyes were as big as saucers.
That's when he knew they were in trouble.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 9, 2021 21:09:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the word proud regarding the 2000 team, maybe please but I could be splitting hairs. Yes they did overachieve and kudos to them. It was a painful SB to watch, one of the more uncompetitive ones I can recall. You got me interested in that team so I looked back at it and here are some observations. QB Kerry Collins, strong and accurate arm when dropping back and throwing on rhythm. Why they kept trying those roll out passes with him still boggles my mind. I don't think he completed a single one for the entire season. He lost all accuracy when on the run. His dazed and confused look in the SB is one of my most vivid memories. Tiki had a strong year. Ike Hilliard was a favorite of mine, career shortened by that douche bag in Philly. He was a courageous undersized receiver. Amani Toomer was beginning to emerge as a really reliable WR Howard Cross is the type of TE we could use......very good in the run game and reliable hands when needed. Strahan..nuf said Christian Peters, a reclamation project who never was terribly good as a DL for us. Adequate but I think (hope) he tamed the demons. Cedric Jones.........(only the Giants could waste a #! on a guy who was blind in one eye.) Never anything better than OK. Armstead a really really good overachiever, overlooked in the draft due to size. Sideline to sideline pursuit was his best attribute. Jason Sehorn, promise unfulfilled. For people who want to love Fassel he is the one who thought it a good idea to try out Sehorn returning kicks in a pre-season game. He gets blown up on the return, major knee surgery and he never fulfills his multi pro-bowl potential. Shawn Williams at safety, a very good player back there. The coaches break down as follows: Fassell.......just an average HC came with a rep for being an offensive genius. Meh Coordinators were much more interesting: John Fox and Sean Payton If you are looking for two reasons why that team overachieved, look no further. Tight end coach Mike Pope, one of the very best to coach that position and we missed him greatly after releasing him. That is what I remember from that team... My wife and I had dinner with Lomas Brown a few times in Hartford, when he worked at ESPN.
He told us about the 2000 SB. He said after the first time Kerry got hit they were in the huddle and Kerry's eyes were as big as saucers.
That's when he knew they were in trouble.
Yes, that is what I saw and it is not meant as a criticism. He looked like what I called scared, but in actuality it may have been a couple of shots to the head. Dazed and confused for most of the game. He was missing in action for most of the game and that is a credit to the Ravens D, not a knock on Collins. BTW, Lomas Brown was one of those rock solid guys from which good teams need to build their base.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 9, 2021 21:18:22 GMT -5
My wife and I had dinner with Lomas Brown a few times in Hartford, when he worked at ESPN.
He told us about the 2000 SB. He said after the first time Kerry got hit they were in the huddle and Kerry's eyes were as big as saucers.
That's when he knew they were in trouble.
Yes, that is what I saw and it is not meant as a criticism. He looked like what I called scared, but in actuality it may have been a couple of shots to the head. Dazed and confused for most of the game. He was missing in action for most of the game and that is a credit to the Ravens D, not a knock on Collins. BTW, Lomas Brown was one of those rock solid guys from which good teams need to build their base. Lomas told me it was OK to drink White Zin. He said he drank it too.
I felt affirmed.
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 9, 2021 21:22:02 GMT -5
My wife and I had dinner with Lomas Brown a few times in Hartford, when he worked at ESPN.
He told us about the 2000 SB. He said after the first time Kerry got hit they were in the huddle and Kerry's eyes were as big as saucers.
That's when he knew they were in trouble.
Yes, that is what I saw and it is not meant as a criticism. He looked like what I called scared, but in actuality it may have been a couple of shots to the head. Dazed and confused for most of the game. He was missing in action for most of the game and that is a credit to the Ravens D, not a knock on Collins. BTW, Lomas Brown was one of those rock solid guys from which good teams need to build their base. It's the double edged sword between having a great QB and a great defense. Both are hard to get. But I think has been demonstrated over and over that a great D that can disrupt a great QB wins in postseason more often than not. We just saw it last year, and won doing it in 07.
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