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Post by scoostraw on Jul 9, 2021 13:03:56 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Jul 9, 2021 13:23:20 GMT -5
I am not expecting it either. Its all good. Come back when he is beyond ready to come back. Meaning when he is ready then wait two more weeks. This will be fine because the NYGs will be in the playoffs so they will be playing at least 18 games in the 2021 season.....
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jul 9, 2021 13:38:08 GMT -5
yea I think it is the right thing to do by the player no matter where his future is. It will show future Giants wether draft picks or free agents that this franchise takes care of the young men who put the NY on.
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Post by allnygin on Jul 9, 2021 13:49:54 GMT -5
rather him take as long as he needs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 13:58:42 GMT -5
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Post by nyg2 on Jul 9, 2021 14:50:05 GMT -5
Honestly I would be shocked if he does play Week one.
Most ACL injuries take a full year to heal and that clock doesn't begin until he gets surgery.
Saquan tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Chicago Bears, which was September 20, 2020.
He had surgery though on October 30, 2020, a full five weeks later, since he had so much swelling and inflammation in his right knee which is what required him to postpone his procedure, so his rehab really begin Week 8 and not immediately after Week 2.
Realistically, I think his timeline for him coming back would be Week 8 against the Kansas City Chiefs (11/1/21) and if that's the case I think there may be a chance that the Giants decide to hold him until after the bye week which is Week 10 (11/14/21).
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 9, 2021 14:58:39 GMT -5
Devontae Booker, Daniel Jones and Kadrius Toney will have to carry his load.
Honestly if Booker can get 4.5 YPC (his avg last year) I think we will be ok. This team is only going to go as far as Jones and these WRs can take them anyway. Using Barkley like we used Tiki (45% of our offense) and hoping he gets 200 yards so we can win simply won't work. Keep Barkley rested until he is truly healed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2021 16:45:23 GMT -5
We need Barkley to play as soon as he can...this is year 3 Jones, and the year is imperative of the future of said QB, GM, HC...and if said coach Judge gets a third year after a 2nd losing year, it will more than likely be a third year with a sparkling brand new QB to learn the system....not ideal for a secure year 3 of coaching. Barkley allowing the OC to play yo-yo with the opponent safeties is incredibly helpful for Jones in all aspects of the passing game, especially being the OL more than likely will not be doing that this year. This is a QB league...running backs, no matter how talented, useful tools for the modern pass happy NFL and making the QB better. He needs to be out there sooner than later. Keeping Barkley bubble wrapped and all shiny for next year is no usage to this team moving forward if we have no Jones and starting new at QB....and a year like last gets us just that. This is a padded up and played running back/linebacker... and tore his knee twice while playing opinion... other opinions pale to mine.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 9, 2021 17:15:09 GMT -5
Before this thread gets out of hand, I'll clarify that at no point in this interview did Saquon or anyone say he won't play week 1. That said, I think even if his knee if medically confirmed to be 100% healed, I don't think he'll play more than a few snaps in week 1. But week 1 is not our main concern, we're trying to re-establish his career.
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Post by jintslifer1 on Jul 9, 2021 17:31:49 GMT -5
I think this is a calculated thing that judge and SB are behind. Saquan is prob close to ready now IMO
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 9, 2021 19:41:37 GMT -5
Honestly I would be shocked if he does play Week one. Most ACL injuries take a full year to heal and that clock doesn't begin until he gets surgery. Saquan tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Chicago Bears, which was September 20, 2020. He had surgery though on October 30, 2020, a full five weeks later, since he had so much swelling and inflammation in his right knee which is what required him to postpone his procedure, so his rehab really begin Week 8 and not immediately after Week 2. Realistically, I think his timeline for him coming back would be Week 8 against the Kansas City Chiefs (11/1/21) and if that's the case I think there may be a chance that the Giants decide to hold him until after the bye week which is Week 10 (11/14/21). I fear you might be correct. SQB himself just said today on Dan Patrick that he hasn't even discussed when he'll be able to play or even his training table. I was hoping to platoon him maybe the first month or so and let him go as the season went on. but I'm not even sure if this idea of mine is gonna happen. Our run game without SQB is below average at best and non existent at worse. Below average for sure imo. This timetable is very worrisome. Week 1 is one thing but week 8 is devastating.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 9, 2021 19:56:00 GMT -5
I'd prefer that they hold him out a few weeks if need be. It's a long season, and if we want to have success in December/January, he should be a big part of it. Most players don't heal quickly like AP did, that's the exception.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2021 20:11:30 GMT -5
He's certainly been pretty cryptic this off season.
I did find Mike's comment regarding Judge's endorsement of full disclosure to be pretty funny and totally appropriate given Saquon's answers.
But come training camp the Giants will no longer be able to mask his condition.
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 9, 2021 20:20:07 GMT -5
But come training camp the Giants will no longer be able to mask his condition.
There are a bunch of videos already out there of him running, cutting ect. What I will find interesting about training camp is to see how the team handles him. Are they giving Booker a bunch of first team snaps. Are they taking it easy on Barkley. How they handle him should tip their hand a bit as far as what they know of his condition.
I do find it interesting he keeps going to these Daniel Jones workouts though. I don't think he is going just to work on the playbook. What an incredible talent, I just hope his career isn't down the drain because of bad knees. Can I give him my knees?
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Post by McCherry on Jul 9, 2021 20:36:01 GMT -5
Honestly I would be shocked if he does play Week one. Most ACL injuries take a full year to heal and that clock doesn't begin until he gets surgery. Saquan tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Chicago Bears, which was September 20, 2020. He had surgery though on October 30, 2020, a full five weeks later, since he had so much swelling and inflammation in his right knee which is what required him to postpone his procedure, so his rehab really begin Week 8 and not immediately after Week 2. Realistically, I think his timeline for him coming back would be Week 8 against the Kansas City Chiefs (11/1/21) and if that's the case I think there may be a chance that the Giants decide to hold him until after the bye week which is Week 10 (11/14/21). I fear you might be correct. SQB himself just said today on Dan Patrick that he hasn't even discussed when he'll be able to play or even his training table. I was hoping to platoon him maybe the first month or so and let him go as the season went on. but I'm not even sure if this idea of mine is gonna happen. Our run game without SQB is below average at best and non existent at worse. Below average for sure imo. This timetable is very worrisome. Week 1 is one thing but week 8 is devastating. I don't know what this timeline is based on, but I don't see it taking until week 8. His rehab is going better than expected and I would guess that by week 4 at the Saints, Barkley will be back to his usual 87% snaps.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 9, 2021 20:47:18 GMT -5
Relax Francis. It was a pipe dream that he was going to be ready by week 1.
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 9, 2021 20:50:31 GMT -5
He’ll be back Week 1.
How many snaps he gets in Week 1 is another story
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 9, 2021 21:22:56 GMT -5
Honestly I would be shocked if he does play Week one. Most ACL injuries take a full year to heal and that clock doesn't begin until he gets surgery. Saquan tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Chicago Bears, which was September 20, 2020. He had surgery though on October 30, 2020, a full five weeks later, since he had so much swelling and inflammation in his right knee which is what required him to postpone his procedure, so his rehab really begin Week 8 and not immediately after Week 2. Realistically, I think his timeline for him coming back would be Week 8 against the Kansas City Chiefs (11/1/21) and if that's the case I think there may be a chance that the Giants decide to hold him until after the bye week which is Week 10 (11/14/21). I fear you might be correct. SQB himself just said today on Dan Patrick that he hasn't even discussed when he'll be able to play or even his training table. I was hoping to platoon him maybe the first month or so and let him go as the season went on. but I'm not even sure if this idea of mine is gonna happen. Our run game without SQB is below average at best and non existent at worse. Below average for sure imo. This timetable is very worrisome. Week 1 is one thing but week 8 is devastating. Our run game will be determined by the performance of our O line.
We ran for more yards last year without Saquan than we did in either of the two previous seasons with him.
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Post by ocgiant on Jul 9, 2021 23:11:51 GMT -5
Nothing against Barkley but it was never the right selection at that time but we lived with it and embraced it.
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Post by TEM on Jul 10, 2021 6:06:59 GMT -5
He’ll be back Week 1. How many snaps he gets in Week 1 is another story I agree he will suit up week one. I see him on the field in the first offensive series.
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Post by southerner on Jul 10, 2021 6:11:58 GMT -5
Unless Saquon has a setback, he will definitely be ready week one…..in fact he will be ready before that, but he won’t play in preseason. He might not get a full load early in the season, but that is it. I know…..been there done that.
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 10, 2021 6:31:02 GMT -5
Nothing against Barkley but it was never the right selection at that time but we lived with it and embraced it. Hmmm we've never had this discussion before.
I wish we took Josh Rosen. He was the right pick at the time.
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Post by ocgiant on Jul 10, 2021 8:54:42 GMT -5
Nothing against Barkley but it was never the right selection at that time but we lived with it and embraced it. Hmmm we've never had this discussion before.
I wish we took Josh Rosen. He was the right pick at the time.
Oh boy, after the Cardinals, Miami, TB practice squad now in SF he may be relegated to a back up role for the rest of his career.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jul 10, 2021 10:07:17 GMT -5
As long as he is back to normal when he does start playing. The offense was predictable with him out. I am ready to see him back at it and DJ getting more opportunities to throw downfield. He is fun to watch. Hopefully he returns to form. Here's a hype video to keep the hope up.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 10, 2021 10:23:32 GMT -5
I fear you might be correct. SQB himself just said today on Dan Patrick that he hasn't even discussed when he'll be able to play or even his training table. I was hoping to platoon him maybe the first month or so and let him go as the season went on. but I'm not even sure if this idea of mine is gonna happen. Our run game without SQB is below average at best and non existent at worse. Below average for sure imo. This timetable is very worrisome. Week 1 is one thing but week 8 is devastating. I don't know what this timeline is based on, but I don't see it taking until week 8. His rehab is going better than expected and I would guess that by week 4 at the Saints, Barkley will be back to his usual 87% snaps. How do you know his rehab is going better than expected?
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Post by McCherry on Jul 10, 2021 10:40:09 GMT -5
I don't know what this timeline is based on, but I don't see it taking until week 8. His rehab is going better than expected and I would guess that by week 4 at the Saints, Barkley will be back to his usual 87% snaps. How do you know his rehab is going better than expected? He was running, doing agility drills and cutting 8 months after surgery, which certainly seems ahead of schedule for ACL surgery.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 10, 2021 10:45:43 GMT -5
How do you know his rehab is going better than expected? He was running, doing agility drills and cutting 8 months after surgery, which certainly seems ahead of schedule for ACL surgery. That's not unusual at all at 8 months.
It's playing NFL football that's the trick with ACL recovery.
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Post by moecoastie on Jul 10, 2021 10:51:23 GMT -5
I fear you might be correct. SQB himself just said today on Dan Patrick that he hasn't even discussed when he'll be able to play or even his training table. I was hoping to platoon him maybe the first month or so and let him go as the season went on. but I'm not even sure if this idea of mine is gonna happen. Our run game without SQB is below average at best and non existent at worse. Below average for sure imo. This timetable is very worrisome. Week 1 is one thing but week 8 is devastating. Our run game will be determined by the performance of our O line.
We ran for more yards last year without Saquan than we did in either of the two previous seasons with him.
Yeah...because of Daniel Jones. Not the RBs. I think DJ was pretty close to the leading rusher on the team and it wasnt because of a running back by committee thing. The runningbacks were terrible last year. Plus, Shurmur called the plays during SB's first two years. How many times did we ask ourselves "why are they not running the ball with saquon?" Shurmur was great at the pass game...didnt do Jack for the run. That was all SB.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 10, 2021 10:53:25 GMT -5
This is a make or break year for Jones, Barkley, hell....the entire Giants team.
He should be suited up and ready to go Game one.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 10, 2021 10:57:25 GMT -5
He was running, doing agility drills and cutting 8 months after surgery, which certainly seems ahead of schedule for ACL surgery. That's not unusual at all at 8 months.
It's playing NFL football that's the trick with ACL recovery.
It's been a successful rehab by every report. I don't see him missing any games at this point. The biggest concern with Barkley is he's shown to be injury prone, and you wonder what the next injury will be.
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