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Post by rbe40 on Mar 3, 2022 18:43:38 GMT -5
I can see that. Mostly dismissive instead of constructive conversations for whatever reason. I guess consider this as me trying to bridge the gap. I enjoy the different opinions, maybe rbe will see this and respond and change it up a little bit in future discussions. Hope you will too, GL, because it could get even more interesting here! Yeah This page of this thread tells you my take about him is correct Respect is meant to be earned So is abuse thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/10589/carson-strong-5-pick-nyg?page=6#post-643152This is why useless troll is fitting Matt Corral = Baker Mayfield. Undersized, thin-framed college SYSTEM QB. Malik Willis = Jalen Hurts / Tavaris Jackson. A gimmicky One-Read RPO QB. Kenny "Pick It" = Kirk Cousins / Derek Carr who is Anti-clutch (aka QB Purgatory, stuck in the middle) Carson Strong = Big Ben / Carson Palmer I just gave you NFL comps for these 4 above QBs. Based on the comps, who do you think the Giants should draft?
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2022 18:54:25 GMT -5
Matt Corral = Baker Mayfield. Undersized, thin-framed college SYSTEM QB. Malik Willis = Jalen Hurts / Tavaris Jackson. A gimmicky One-Read RPO QB. Kenny "Pick It" = Kirk Cousins / Derek Carr who is Anti-clutch (aka QB Purgatory, stuck in the middle) Carson Strong = Big Ben / Carson Palmer I just gave you NFL comps for these 4 above QBs. Based on the comps, who do you think the Giants should draft? None of the above because you have your lipstick on Strong's dipstick And other claiming to be correct about Allen(because nobody was around pre 2018 we have no proof )you are nothing but a fountain of misinformation and hot takes
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Post by imgrate on Mar 4, 2022 8:42:48 GMT -5
Matt Corral = Baker Mayfield. Undersized, thin-framed college SYSTEM QB. Malik Willis = Jalen Hurts / Tavaris Jackson. A gimmicky One-Read RPO QB. Kenny "Pick It" = Kirk Cousins / Derek Carr who is Anti-clutch (aka QB Purgatory, stuck in the middle) Carson Strong = Big Ben / Carson Palmer I just gave you NFL comps for these 4 above QBs. Based on the comps, who do you think the Giants should draft? None of the above because you have your lipstick on Strong's dipstick And other claiming to be correct about Allen(because nobody was around pre 2018 we have no proof )you are nothing but a fountain of misinformation and hot takes Nah he was big on Allen. To be fair he was also big on John Jerry, Gettleman, and Andrew Thomas.
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Post by imgrate on Mar 4, 2022 8:47:21 GMT -5
Matt Corral = Baker Mayfield. Undersized, thin-framed college SYSTEM QB. Malik Willis = Jalen Hurts / Tavaris Jackson. A gimmicky One-Read RPO QB. Kenny "Pick It" = Kirk Cousins / Derek Carr who is Anti-clutch (aka QB Purgatory, stuck in the middle) Carson Strong = Big Ben / Carson Palmer I just gave you NFL comps for these 4 above QBs. Based on the comps, who do you think the Giants should draft? So two probowlers, one hof/borderline hof, and a middling starter? That'd be an amazing qb draft class
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 4, 2022 9:21:13 GMT -5
Matt Corral = Baker Mayfield. Undersized, thin-framed college SYSTEM QB. Malik Willis = Jalen Hurts / Tavaris Jackson. A gimmicky One-Read RPO QB. Kenny "Pick It" = Kirk Cousins / Derek Carr who is Anti-clutch (aka QB Purgatory, stuck in the middle) Carson Strong = Big Ben / Carson Palmer I just gave you NFL comps for these 4 above QBs. Based on the comps, who do you think the Giants should draft? So two probowlers, one hof/borderline hof, and a middling starter? That'd be an amazing qb draft class You're counting Baker Mayfield as a Pro Bowler? The Pro Bowl is irrelevant. Baker stinks. Hurts stinks. Cousins is the "middling starter" Ben is the HOFer, correct. 1 out of 4.
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Post by imgrate on Mar 4, 2022 9:26:03 GMT -5
So two probowlers, one hof/borderline hof, and a middling starter? That'd be an amazing qb draft class You're counting Baker Mayfield as a Pro Bowler? The Pro Bowl is irrelevant. Baker stinks. Hurts stinks. Cousins is the "middling starter" Ben is the HOFer, correct. 1 out of 4. Kirk/Carr was the Pro Bowl comp. The other was Mayfield, I thought he had gotten one, but was just an alternate. Pro bowl is a joke, but its still not something that everyone gets into.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 9, 2022 21:38:59 GMT -5
Since my own Carson Strong thread got deleted....
Just a reminder to everyone:
Carson Strong is easily the QB1 in this draft class and there isn't even a close 2nd.
NFL comparison: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene and mental toughness
And yes, he is going inside the Top 10 (#6 Panthers, #9 Seahawks likeliest destinations) without a doubt.
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Post by robl on Mar 9, 2022 23:08:59 GMT -5
He has osteochondritis dessicans in his knee requiring two operations and a bone graft. QBs are a crap shoot but add injury history and your not at the top of the draft.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 7:20:47 GMT -5
He has osteochondritis dessicans in his knee requiring two operations and a bone graft. QBs are a crap shoot but add injury history and your not at the top of the draft. Ouch www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/osteochondritis-dissecans/symptoms-causes/syc-20375887“Carson Strong missed his senior season of high school in 2017 after knee surgery when an MRI revealed an osteochondritis dissecans lesion and resulted in eight biodegradable nails being inserted to mend a crack in his lateral femoral condyle bone.” “In January, Strong had surgery on the same knee to clean up cartilage after he felt some uneasiness in the knee during his breakout 2020 season.” steelersdepot.com/2022/02/the-doctor-is-in-what-to-make-of-carson-strongs-knee-issue/Ouch on this link...20% failure I'd pass on a draft able Eli Manning with this type of injury Sad too, cause he reminds me of Big Ben with higher football IQ.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 10, 2022 10:02:19 GMT -5
He has osteochondritis dessicans in his knee requiring two operations and a bone graft. QBs are a crap shoot but add injury history and your not at the top of the draft. good call and sad news.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 10, 2022 12:26:03 GMT -5
He has osteochondritis dessicans in his knee requiring two operations and a bone graft. QBs are a crap shoot but add injury history and your not at the top of the draft. Ouch www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/osteochondritis-dissecans/symptoms-causes/syc-20375887“Carson Strong missed his senior season of high school in 2017 after knee surgery when an MRI revealed an osteochondritis dissecans lesion and resulted in eight biodegradable nails being inserted to mend a crack in his lateral femoral condyle bone.” “In January, Strong had surgery on the same knee to clean up cartilage after he felt some uneasiness in the knee during his breakout 2020 season.” steelersdepot.com/2022/02/the-doctor-is-in-what-to-make-of-carson-strongs-knee-issue/Ouch on this link...20% failure I'd pass on a draft able Eli Manning with this type of injury Sad too, cause he reminds me of Big Ben with higher football IQ. Your opinion on all things NFL Draft is completely invalidated because you compared Willis to Josh Allen. That alone dismisses everything you have to say.
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Post by knixknation on Mar 10, 2022 12:31:08 GMT -5
Your opinion on all things NFL Draft is completely invalidated because you compared Willis to Josh Allen. That alone dismisses everything you have to say. You already got one thread closed down. Now you're going for 2? You've made your views about Carson crystal clear. You are sure he is going to be draft in the top 10. Nobody agrees with you, but that is your right to feel that way. Why are you beating a dead horse to death? Also, you seem to confuse opinion from fact.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 10, 2022 12:32:10 GMT -5
Since my own Carson Strong thread got deleted.... Just a reminder to everyone: Carson Strong is easily the QB1 in this draft class and there isn't even a close 2nd. NFL comparison: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene and mental toughness And yes, he is going inside the Top 10 (#6 Panthers, #9 Seahawks likeliest destinations) without a doubt. Ready to put your money where your mouth is? If Strong is not drafted in the top 10, you disappear from this board forever. If he is drafted in the top 10, I disappear from this board forever. Deal?
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 10, 2022 12:36:47 GMT -5
Your opinion on all things NFL Draft is completely invalidated because you compared Willis to Josh Allen. That alone dismisses everything you have to say. You already got one thread closed down. Now you're going for 2? You've made your views about Carson crystal clear. You are sure he is going to be draft in the top 10. Nobody agrees with you, but that is your right to feel that way. Why are you beating a dead horse to death? Also, you seem to confuse opinion from fact. No, this is a completely separate point I am making. This has nothing to do with Carson Strong. If you compare Willis to Josh Allen, everything you say about the NFL Draft is completely invalidated. Anybody who makes that comparison is flat out saying "I have no clue what I'm talking about" and therefore your opinion on all things NFL Draft can safely be ignored/dismissed.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 10, 2022 12:38:27 GMT -5
Since my own Carson Strong thread got deleted.... Just a reminder to everyone: Carson Strong is easily the QB1 in this draft class and there isn't even a close 2nd. NFL comparison: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene and mental toughness And yes, he is going inside the Top 10 (#6 Panthers, #9 Seahawks likeliest destinations) without a doubt. Ready to put your money where your mouth is? If Strong is not drafted in the top 10, you disappear from this board forever. If he is drafted in the top 10, I disappear from this board forever. Deal? No? Why do I care if you disappear from this board? That bet has zero advantages for me. Even if I "win" the bet, what am I actually winning? I couldn't care less whether u leave the board or not.
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 10, 2022 13:15:06 GMT -5
Ready to put your money where your mouth is? If Strong is not drafted in the top 10, you disappear from this board forever. If he is drafted in the top 10, I disappear from this board forever. Deal? No? Why do I care if you disappear from this board? That bet has zero advantages for me. Even if I "win" the bet, what am I actually winning? I couldn't care less whether u leave the board or not. That's fine ... my guess is that you probably disappear anyway after the draft, although you have shown a surprisingly high threshold for shame (see Gettlemagic thread).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 23:35:51 GMT -5
No? Why do I care if you disappear from this board? That bet has zero advantages for me. Even if I "win" the bet, what am I actually winning? I couldn't care less whether u leave the board or not. That's fine ... my guess is that you probably disappear anyway after the draft, although you have shown a surprisingly high threshold for shame (see Gettlemagic thread). Is there an actual thread called that? ...and a poster whom believed Gettleman was nailing this GM thing?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 0:32:04 GMT -5
That's fine ... my guess is that you probably disappear anyway after the draft, although you have shown a surprisingly high threshold for shame (see Gettlemagic thread). Is there an actual thread called that? ...and a poster whom believed Gettleman was nailing this GM thing? I have located and read it....your first response was a simple lol...such a perfect response to that first post. Both Mikes guns blazing in his defense, before we had even a winning season....don't know how I missed it.
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Post by bluebuddha on Mar 23, 2022 8:06:09 GMT -5
Anyone one know if the Giants showed up at his pro day? I can't find anything. The Giants are definitley making QB rounds as they scoped out Picket and Willis. I am hoping they give Ridder a look tomorrow also. Maybe be a smoke screen.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 23, 2022 10:35:31 GMT -5
Anyone one know if the Giants showed up at his pro day? I can't find anything. The Giants are definitley making QB rounds as they scoped out Picket and Willis. I am hoping they give Ridder a look tomorrow also. Maybe be a smoke screen. thats them doing their job.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 23, 2022 10:43:33 GMT -5
Matt Waldman and Mark Schofield with a phenomenal breakdown of Strong
Matt Waldman at the 53-plus minute mark: "Carson Strong is my top graded guy"
My analysis of Strong is now justified. I am not the only one who sees it (not that it matters, but just saying)
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Post by allnygin on Mar 23, 2022 11:17:07 GMT -5
Since my own Carson Strong thread got deleted.... Just a reminder to everyone: Carson Strong is easily the QB1 in this draft class and there isn't even a close 2nd. NFL comparison: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene and mental toughness And yes, he is going inside the Top 10 (#6 Panthers, #9 Seahawks likeliest destinations) without a doubt. Not here to say Carson Strong can't be a good QB in the NFL he very well may be. I can't see into the future, that said I'm suprised you think he's going in the top 10... Strong had an arthroscopic procedure to clear scar tissue in August and had the knee drained multiple times after that. Strong opted out of the team's 2021 bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. -- by Chad Reuter Yeah, lots of risk with that knee for a QB who already was not mobile, and not highly regarded.. Doubtful he's drafted in the top 10.. This is the time of the year QBs get hyped even for classes that aren't looked at favorably and he's still not in any discussion... That doesn't mean much really, but at the same time, says quite a bit. Guess well see, but for as much shit as you spout out about others not knowing football, I'll love seeing you wrong, gotta admit.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 23, 2022 12:20:34 GMT -5
Since my own Carson Strong thread got deleted.... Just a reminder to everyone: Carson Strong is easily the QB1 in this draft class and there isn't even a close 2nd. NFL comparison: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene and mental toughness And yes, he is going inside the Top 10 (#6 Panthers, #9 Seahawks likeliest destinations) without a doubt. Not here to say Carson Strong can't be a good QB in the NFL he very well may be. I can't see into the future, that said I'm suprised you think he's going in the top 10... Strong had an arthroscopic procedure to clear scar tissue in August and had the knee drained multiple times after that. Strong opted out of the team's 2021 bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. -- by Chad Reuter Yeah, lots of risk with that knee for a QB who already was not mobile, and not highly regarded.. Doubtful he's drafted in the top 10.. This is the time of the year QBs get hyped even for classes that aren't looked at favorably and he's still not in any discussion... That doesn't mean much really, but at the same time, says quite a bit. Guess well see, but for as much shit as you spout out about others not knowing football, I'll love seeing you wrong, gotta admit. Watch the video directly above your post. Don't respond until you've seen it.
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Post by knixknation on Mar 23, 2022 13:15:55 GMT -5
Matt Waldman and Mark Schofield with a phenomenal breakdown of Strong Matt Waldman at the 53-plus minute mark: "Carson Strong is my top graded guy" My analysis of Strong is now justified. I am not the only one who sees it (not that it matters, but just saying) Because Matt Waldman says "Carson Strong is my top-graded guy" you are justified? Justified how? You claim(ed) that Strong is going 5 to the Giants or 6 to the Panthers. You scour the interwebs looking for anyone who agrees with you that he's a QB1 and disregarding anyone (professional or not) who thinks he's a QB3/day 2 draft pick. *edit*: You totally cherry picked what he said. Start at 52:30.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 23, 2022 13:36:17 GMT -5
Matt Waldman and Mark Schofield with a phenomenal breakdown of Strong Matt Waldman at the 53-plus minute mark: "Carson Strong is my top graded guy" My analysis of Strong is now justified. I am not the only one who sees it (not that it matters, but just saying) Because Matt Waldman says "Carson Strong is my top-graded guy" you are justified? Justified how? You claim(ed) that Strong is going 5 to the Giants or 6 to the Panthers. You scour the interwebs looking for anyone who agrees with you that he's a QB1 and disregarding anyone (professional or not) who thinks he's a QB3/day 2 draft pick. *edit*: You totally cherry picked what he said. Start at 52:30. You're talking in circles and moving the goal posts. You said "Nobody has Strong rated that highly, has him rated QB1" I proved you wrong not once, but now twice. 1) Drew Boylhart's #1 QB is Carson Strong. 2) Matt Waldman's #1 QB is Carson Strong. So that's 2 Draft Analysts who agree with my position on Strong. The correct opinion, that is. Your trash and false statement has been debunked not once but TWICE. Run along now. You've been wrecked.
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Post by knixknation on Mar 23, 2022 13:57:01 GMT -5
Because Matt Waldman says "Carson Strong is my top-graded guy" you are justified? Justified how? You claim(ed) that Strong is going 5 to the Giants or 6 to the Panthers. You scour the interwebs looking for anyone who agrees with you that he's a QB1 and disregarding anyone (professional or not) who thinks he's a QB3/day 2 draft pick. *edit*: You totally cherry picked what he said. Start at 52:30. You're talking in circles and moving the goal posts. You said "Nobody has Strong rated that highly, has him rated QB1" I proved you wrong not once, but now twice. 1) Drew Boylhart's #1 QB is Carson Strong. 2) Matt Waldman's #1 QB is Carson Strong. So that's 2 Draft Analysts who agree with my position on Strong. The correct opinion, that is. Your trash and false statement has been debunked not once but TWICE. Run along now. You've been wrecked. CBS sports has him QB6 SI.com has him QB6 Walter Football has him QB6 Athlon has him QB6 Sportsnaut has him QB6 Yahoo Sports has him QB6 Mel Kiper has him QB6 Todd McShay has him QB6 but find one dude who writes on a fan page and another with a youtube video...and you feel vindicated. Lmao....you're a car wreck. You know, I was starting to feel bad for you being mocked/dragged by everyone on this board, both for this post and your past posts. I tried to be nice to you but that route is pointless. If you want to keep embarrassing yourself in front of everyone, who am I to stop you? Every town and messageboard needs a fool, I guess.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 23, 2022 14:16:00 GMT -5
You're talking in circles and moving the goal posts. You said "Nobody has Strong rated that highly, has him rated QB1" I proved you wrong not once, but now twice. 1) Drew Boylhart's #1 QB is Carson Strong. 2) Matt Waldman's #1 QB is Carson Strong. So that's 2 Draft Analysts who agree with my position on Strong. The correct opinion, that is. Your trash and false statement has been debunked not once but TWICE. Run along now. You've been wrecked. CBS sports has him QB6 SI.com has him QB6 Walter Football has him QB6 Athlon has him QB6 Sportsnaut has him QB6 Yahoo Sports has him QB6 Mel Kiper has him QB6 Todd McShay has him QB6 but find one dude who writes on a fan page and another with a youtube video...and you feel vindicated. Lmao....you're a car wreck. You know, I was starting to feel bad for you being mocked/dragged by everyone on this board, both for this post and your past posts. I tried to be nice to you but that route is pointless. If you want to keep embarrassing yourself in front of everyone, who am I to stop you? Every town and messageboard needs a fool, I guess. What makes you think I give a rip about these wrong opinions/evaluations? I only care about the correct opinion, the correct evaluation. Just because those guys are wrong, doesn't mean I also have to be wrong like they are wrong. I choose to be correct, which I am. You want to be wrong? Go right ahead. Like I said - I choose to be correct. "Not 1 source/analyst has him rated QB1" Your words, not mine. I gave you 2 analysts who have him QB1. I proved you wrong. Therefore, I win, and you lose. End of story. You've been completely dismantled on this subject so you resort to backtracking from what you originally said, and constantly moving the goal posts after getting proven wrong. Hold this L. I've thoroughly destroyed you.
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 23, 2022 14:22:43 GMT -5
Repeat after me:
Most of NFL Draft Media has no clue how to properly evaluate NFL QB prospects. They are as accurate as the average casual football fan.
Most of NFL Draft Media has no clue how to properly evaluate NFL QB prospects. They are as accurate as the average casual football fan.
Most of NFL Draft Media has no clue how to properly evaluate NFL QB prospects. They are as accurate as the average casual football fan.
One more time for knixnation in the back:
Most of NFL Draft Media has no clue how to properly evaluate NFL QB prospects. They are as accurate as the average casual football fan.
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Post by knixknation on Mar 23, 2022 14:50:08 GMT -5
CBS sports has him QB6 SI.com has him QB6 Walter Football has him QB6 Athlon has him QB6 Sportsnaut has him QB6 Yahoo Sports has him QB6 Mel Kiper has him QB6 Todd McShay has him QB6 but find one dude who writes on a fan page and another with a youtube video...and you feel vindicated. Lmao....you're a car wreck. You know, I was starting to feel bad for you being mocked/dragged by everyone on this board, both for this post and your past posts. I tried to be nice to you but that route is pointless. If you want to keep embarrassing yourself in front of everyone, who am I to stop you? Every town and messageboard needs a fool, I guess. What makes you think I give a rip about these wrong opinions/evaluations? I only care about the correct opinion, the correct evaluation. Just because those guys are wrong, doesn't mean I also have to be wrong like they are wrong. I choose to be correct, which I am. You want to be wrong? Go right ahead. Like I said - I choose to be correct. "Not 1 source/analyst has him rated QB1" Your words, not mine. I gave you 2 analysts who have him QB1. I proved you wrong. Therefore, I win, and you lose. End of story. You've been completely dismantled on this subject so you resort to backtracking from what you originally said, and constantly moving the goal posts after getting proven wrong. Hold this L. I've thoroughly destroyed you. You destroyed me? You’ve been mocked from pillar to post on this board for multiple threads. If you were a horse you would have been shot by now. If you had any pride you would have left this board weeks ago. I personally couldn’t hang a round a place where I’m looked upon as a clown by the other members, but everyone has their own threshold for embarrassment. “YoU saiD tHat no One had him raTed QB1 and I fOund 2 nobodies that like him…so thiS makes me riGht becaUse reAsons!!!” Take up pickle ball, kid. Football ain’t your thing.
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Post by allnygin on Mar 23, 2022 14:53:29 GMT -5
Because Matt Waldman says "Carson Strong is my top-graded guy" you are justified? Justified how? You claim(ed) that Strong is going 5 to the Giants or 6 to the Panthers. You scour the interwebs looking for anyone who agrees with you that he's a QB1 and disregarding anyone (professional or not) who thinks he's a QB3/day 2 draft pick. *edit*: You totally cherry picked what he said. Start at 52:30. You're talking in circles and moving the goal posts. You said "Nobody has Strong rated that highly, has him rated QB1" I proved you wrong not once, but now twice. 1) Drew Boylhart's #1 QB is Carson Strong.
2) Matt Waldman's #1 QB is Carson Strong.
So that's 2 Draft Analysts who agree with my position on Strong. The correct opinion, that is.Your trash and false statement has been debunked not once but TWICE. Run along now. You've been wrecked. So becuase two analysts and yourself seem to think Carson Strong is the best QB in the draft you have the "correct" opinion? and the op who challanged you is wrong? That's the most narcissist thing I've heard on this board. Look, we for the most part like to talk about prospects we like, all of us here have them and may like them more than others, that's just how it is and that's fine, but mostly we all know we're just fans with opinions and most can recognize we may be wrong, and probably will be. It's all for fun. Anyway, my dude.. I've got news for you, you're not the next coming of a great NFL scout, you're an ordinary person talking on a giants message board. If you're right about carson strong, you got lucky.. nothing more nothing less homie.
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