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Post by PennState1 on Sept 9, 2021 22:33:44 GMT -5
Cairn wait to see an effective pass rush.
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Post by repeatchamps on Sept 9, 2021 22:38:09 GMT -5
Cairn wait to see an effective pass rush. If he gets a big sack to knock Dallas out of FG range here, yes, I will admit I miss him, if not, I will say no I don't miss him lol.
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 9, 2021 22:51:18 GMT -5
LOL!!!!! Yes, I completely agree
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Post by McCherry on Sept 9, 2021 22:56:40 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 9, 2021 22:58:36 GMT -5
I miss if he was doing that here, really he didn't have a chance because he was the lest good edge they drafted he had 0 help.
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 9, 2021 22:59:52 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. I was waiting on that…yes, it’s scary
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Post by idkaname on Sept 9, 2021 23:00:14 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. literally doing the same thing as last year…getting behind so he gets open yardage and then struggles in the red zone 🥱
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Post by Martin on Sept 9, 2021 23:01:32 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready.
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Post by repeatchamps on Sept 9, 2021 23:21:07 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. Tampa secondary is overrated. It actually really is not very good at all. Lower tier secondary in the NFL imho. They obviously look better than they are at times due to that sick front 7. They also have 0 depth. The secondary will cost Tampa some games this year.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 9, 2021 23:23:33 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. Yeah but they did lose a few guys too
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 9, 2021 23:32:39 GMT -5
threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. Tampa secondary is overrated. It actually really is not very good at all. Lower tier secondary in the NFL imho. They obviously look better than they are at times due to that sick front 7. They also have 0 depth. The secondary will cost Tampa some games this year. They were on PS players playing back there
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 9, 2021 23:36:56 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. literally doing the same thing as last year…getting behind so he gets open yardage and then struggles in the red zone 🥱 Just like I preach about playing prehistoric goober ball style game manager qb offense is unsustainable I call what Dallas does "idiot ball " Throw it 50 plus times a game ,abandon any semblance of balance.. We see teams put up insane stats playing like this for decades and barely make the playoffs and then get their clocks cleaned by a team with a good defense all the time Dak will be the first QB ever to get 6K yards and they finish 9-8 at best
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Post by scoostraw on Sept 10, 2021 6:09:56 GMT -5
JPP was playing like dog poop for the Giants and I was glad to see him go.
His level of play was likely due to coaching and overall motivation and mental state while here. He seems to be playing much better for the Bucs.
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Post by hadenough on Sept 10, 2021 6:30:49 GMT -5
JPP was a solid player but never a dominate pass rush force. A lot of his sacks were coverage sacks. It was time for JPP to go elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 6:36:31 GMT -5
Nope I don't miss him except at a bunch of Giants games where he was playing but not accomplishing anything good..
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 10, 2021 7:01:15 GMT -5
I miss the plethora of DEs attacking opponents. It was unique. Not sure i miss JPP. Once he blew his hand off he was hit or miss while the team lost its way imo.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 10, 2021 7:14:09 GMT -5
I miss Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, JPP, Tolly ect. I miss the winning strategy we used to thrive on. Getting to the opponents passer.
I also miss LT, Banks, Carson, Van Pelt, Reasons, ect.
I guess our new strategy is stacking the secondary instead which I think is why we are failing so much.
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Post by imgrate on Sept 10, 2021 7:44:00 GMT -5
I miss Strahan, Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, JPP, Tolly ect. I miss the winning strategy we used to thrive on. Getting to the opponents passer. I also miss LT, Banks, Carson, Van Pelt, Reasons, ect. I guess our new strategy is stacking the secondary instead which I think is why we are failing so much. Agreed. Everyone hates on Reese for sucking at OL. I think his downfall was going away from the winning recipe of drafting tons of pass rushers. We started drafting RBs, shitty OL, and TEs in the first round, rest is history.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 10, 2021 7:44:56 GMT -5
threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. Tampa secondary is overrated. It actually really is not very good at all. Lower tier secondary in the NFL imho. They obviously look better than they are at times due to that sick front 7. They also have 0 depth. The secondary will cost Tampa some games this year. yes missing one key guy and ine got hurt But remember, this defense held mahomes and that high powered KC offense to only 9 points with no TDs in the SB. The front 7 for the most part could not make a difference. Dallas D also surprised me
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 7:49:48 GMT -5
most other teams would have bailed on him given the circumstances.
Glad he made it back and is having great career
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Post by vinnie on Sept 10, 2021 7:53:37 GMT -5
Cairn wait to see an effective pass rush. I hope you’re young and healthy. Nevermind, you’ll see one Sunday at ~3:15 CST at Metlife stadium.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 8:00:19 GMT -5
Cairn wait to see an effective pass rush. I hope you’re young and healthy. Nevermind, you’ll see one Sunday at ~3:15 CST at Metlife stadium. and you expect anyone to think you dont mean Miller and Chubb . vv strikes again.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 10, 2021 8:03:30 GMT -5
Seems like Williams is a similar player.
If JPP didn't do things like blow himself up with fireworks and almost kill himself driving his Ferrari he'd probably still be with the team.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 10, 2021 8:08:00 GMT -5
Forget JPP, Dak Prescott is back..... Oh boy, this division just got a lot tougher. threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. As much as I hate to say it, cowboys have one of the best WR core in the league and their O line is top 5 when healthy, which they were last night. I hope some Giants fans watched the game and have accepted reality of where this team is at and it’s not pretty.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 10, 2021 8:09:08 GMT -5
Seems like Williams is a similar player. If JPP didn't do things like blow himself up with fireworks and almost kill himself driving his Ferrari he'd probably still be with the team. Lol, rough but true. I dunno though, it wouldn’t have surprised me if DG let him go or traded him just because.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 10, 2021 8:10:48 GMT -5
I hope you’re young and healthy. Nevermind, you’ll see one Sunday at ~3:15 CST at Metlife stadium. and you expect anyone to think you dont mean Miller and Chubb . vv strikes again. Haha…you’re quick, on your A game this morning. When are you going to start smoking that pork? How long?
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 8:12:30 GMT -5
threw for over 400 yds. Tampa Bay's secondary got there clock cleaned! The Giants D better be ready. As much as I hate to say it, cowboys have one of the best WR core in the league and their O line is top 5 when healthy, which they were last night. I hope some Giants fans watched the game and have accepted reality of where this team is at and it’s not pretty. crazy thought... maybe NYGs actually improve like they are supposed to this season.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 8:13:50 GMT -5
and you expect anyone to think you dont mean Miller and Chubb . vv strikes again. Haha…you’re quick, on your A game this morning. When are you going to start smoking that pork? How long? eehh.....didnt have to be that quick to figure your comment out. takes 10 to 12 hours depending on the size. If not this weekend then next
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Post by vinnie on Sept 10, 2021 8:16:08 GMT -5
Haha…you’re quick, on your A game this morning. When are you going to start smoking that pork? How long? eehh.....didnt have to be that quick to figure your comment out. takes 10 to 12 hours depending on the size. If not this weekend then next I don’t like you’re tone, you seem a little down. Get ya some caffeine and wake up a bit. Debbie Downers like myself need a little delusional positivity in our life whether you believe it or not. I expect your next post to be “fired up”.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 10, 2021 8:18:14 GMT -5
I thought it was odd to trade him considering Arians and Bettcher wanted to bring him to Arizona and then Betch became our DC. We also didn't really turn what we got back into anything, let alone anything relative to JPP's production since he's been in TB.
That being said, no right now, I don't miss him. Missed him in 2019. But we had a top 10 defense last year with a manufactured pass rush and no real CB2. We are better in both those spots with personnel right now and I feel good about it. We don't have a traditional blue chip edge guy, but I think we have a lot of guys that have skills and will be put in positions to succeed. Combine that with what looks like a potentially unbelievable secondary...I'm excited.
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