southerner
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Post by southerner on Sept 12, 2021 18:18:41 GMT -5
This Giant team is not coached well at all….these idiots do NOTHING well………except losing….they are great at that.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 12, 2021 18:18:45 GMT -5
I said last week I was worried about everything including the defense and I wasn't expecting to much the first 3 or 4 games so I'm not disappointed with the offense but I am with the defense. Tbe defense is the real bummer This looked like a Betcher defense Just completely different than last year. Why? I just don't get it
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 12, 2021 18:18:45 GMT -5
great get him hurt in trash time, smh
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 18:18:48 GMT -5
Just great, now Jones is going to get meaningless reps but he got none in pre-season. Honestly week 1 vs an out of conference game that's over.... But still Thing is many teams looked like they should have played their starters today Watching Green Bay....yuck Watching Buffalo Yuck
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 12, 2021 18:18:51 GMT -5
Looking forward to Antwan's Jones thread. hey, we just scored to end the game. All is forgiven.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 18:19:14 GMT -5
He has plenty of fans buying whatever scapegoat the FO will create. Looks like Gettleman will be that guy if this doesn't turn around fast I would say so I hate to start over but if it doesn't turn around it will happen.
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Post by SG88 on Sept 12, 2021 18:19:31 GMT -5
Looking forward to Antwan's Jones thread. hey, we just scored to end the game. All is forgiven. 😄😄😄😄
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 12, 2021 18:19:50 GMT -5
Judge still wearing a hoodie in 80 degree weather. The heat must be sucking the oxygen from his brain.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 18:19:51 GMT -5
Aaron Rodgers, DeShawn Watson, and Cam Newton are available Maybe Miami would be involved in a 3 way deal with us and Houston where we get Tua, Miami gets Watson, and Houston gets DJ and picks Newton is useless and Watson might be in Jail for years
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Post by allnygin on Sept 12, 2021 18:19:56 GMT -5
trade the picks for watson and call it day... easy haha
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 12, 2021 18:20:19 GMT -5
yeah great , get slayton hurt in trash time. smh
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 12, 2021 18:20:21 GMT -5
Why are they even running plays at this point? Wow. Clueless. Would have been great if DJ got lit up right there on that meaningless run in.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 18:20:40 GMT -5
Shepard is our best OFF player. Shepard was awesome today. Shep Golladay both had really nice games. Defense was discusting OL was better then expected.
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Post by thetruth on Sept 12, 2021 18:21:17 GMT -5
Shurmur shouldn't have been the only one fired in 2019.
Am i right?
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Post by miss86 on Sept 12, 2021 18:21:20 GMT -5
SOOOO SICK OF THIS SH!T!
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Post by allnygin on Sept 12, 2021 18:21:34 GMT -5
Shepard was awesome today. Shep Golladay both had really nice games. Defense was discusting OL was better then expected. defense, jones and judge biggest losers of the day.
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southerner
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Post by southerner on Sept 12, 2021 18:21:57 GMT -5
Plays don’t seem to be based on progression, and that’s why Jones locks on receivers. At practices, Judge seems to spens his whole time with players giving individual tips to players. Never saw Bill Wash do that. Judge seems clueless about offensive football. You are right…..Judge has no clue and Garrett is even worse…..throw in a thumbless QB and you have one pitiful Football team….Could be top pick in 2022 draft.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 12, 2021 18:22:46 GMT -5
Where was Toney today after the 1st half?
I didn't like how one of our "creative" plays used for him knocked us out of field goal position.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Sept 12, 2021 18:22:53 GMT -5
Bottom line is the Giants stink overall and Daniel Jones is barely NFL caliber...we suck big time.
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Post by giantsrock on Sept 12, 2021 18:23:08 GMT -5
Shepard is our best OFF player. Shepard was awesome today. At least Gettleman got that pick right. Oh wait......nevermind.
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 12, 2021 18:23:09 GMT -5
Joe Judge is going to mix in dips with the push-ups and running laps. We may not win many games, but we’ll have the biggest triceps in the league. Judge , will coddle the players as usual. We “ Have confidence in Daniel Jones “ He is our QB. You think with CY. and Sweat Thursday it will be any easier ?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 18:23:16 GMT -5
I think everyone wants to believe that DJ is the guy, but I've never believed he was. He doesn't have "it". He's is who we thought he was. I don't want to sound like a "hot take", because it really isn't. I've watched him in college and now into his third year here. Hes the same guy, it isn't changing. Turnover prone QBs are typically always turnover prone. How many times did he lock into a receiver and allow the defensive player to make a play on the ball? Even stink Schlereth pointed it out. Come on, you don't have to be an "expert" to see these things. the turnovers won't change much. He lives for the moment and his brain shuts off. He thought he was Mark Bavaro on that run trying to bust through 2 dudes after positive yardage, most crucial part of the game deep in other team's territory where points essential etc etc etc, a 10 yr old knows this and so does he. But to no avail, so he makes an astoundingly dumb decision. but he is improving quite rapidly. Enough? Most likely not enough to placate fans here. And being fair, could very well be deservedly so. to my eyes, much better pocket presence though still aways to go he is throwing the ball well above avg- he has made some phenomenal throws in excruciatingly tight windows. Very pleased with the zip and accuracy he has shown for the most part. he is a football player. He never backs down, he is tough as nails and he don't act like a typical QB in that sense. Jones' play was very solid and: his dumb play cost them the game, though giants aren't as good as Denver, at least not yet my prediction: this is Jones last year here and he will go somewhere else and have a good career, possibly quite a bit more. one thing to the fans who thinks he doesn't have it, and I don't blame you for that- turn the page on him. Don't keep griping and piling on, as hard as it is to not be pissed at what we're seeing. Look forward to DG & him being gone, a better young QB in here, and be disgusted at the never-ending management incompetence requiring another regime change and more suck for the foreseeable future Very well said .... I'm not totally turning the page on him yet ... Giving him 8 games...... I can see him having a really good career in a Shurmer/Stepnoski type system while we make a grasp at a 2nd rate qb next draft that is even worse ..
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 12, 2021 18:23:39 GMT -5
wish Gettlleman had $400 million in free agency to spend since $200 million wasn’t enough
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Post by allnygin on Sept 12, 2021 18:23:47 GMT -5
Where was Toney today after the 1st half? I didn't like how one of our "creative" plays used for him knocked us out of field goal position. I heard he was working on his new mixtap on the sidelines.
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 12, 2021 18:24:14 GMT -5
One of the worst opening day performances I've ever seen. It's what id expect out of the 2nd string first game of preseason. out coached and out played.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 12, 2021 18:24:34 GMT -5
Joe Judge is going to mix in dips with the push-ups and running laps. We may not win many games, but we’ll have the biggest triceps in the league. Judge , will coddle the players as usual. We “ Have confidence in Daniel Jones “ He is our QB. You think with CY. and Sweat Thursday it will be any easier ? And like the last three coaches the fickle will target the coach.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 18:24:36 GMT -5
Just great, now Jones is going to get meaningless reps but he got none in pre-season. Honestly week 1 vs an out of conference game that's over.... But still Thing is many teams looked like they should have played their starters today Watching Green Bay....yuck Watching Buffalo Yuck Yea I will grade after the first QT, we have seen defenses start slow before think they had a chance if they had a few more possessions which would mean Denver had a few less. and the defense got them off the field.
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Post by Eazy E on Sept 12, 2021 18:25:04 GMT -5
Honestly , think there was just tòo much built into Jones. He is out there trying, he has heart. Thats great. He was never a tremendous player in college or much less a true winner in college. This meant he had to learn to be a winner in the NFL. He had to learn to get rid of his bad habits in the NFL. He is what he is. I see his ceiling as being Jared Goff but Danny has baggage. He seems like he isnt gonna grow past his shortcomings. The Giants put themselves in an all or nothing situation. I think the D has had some issues today but they are going to be ok. Question is , what about Jones. Does the GM start picking up the phone soon. What options are out there, if we are going to have a season. Do we ride Jones and see this game as out of character. Or I only see 2 real options available with any flicker. Cam Newton has an open line.. He clearly isnt the franchise long term solution but for this season , who knows. He is a professional.
The other option is a dude thats had 16 nfl games under his belt and has had terrible situations around him. He is the forgotten one. A first rd talent who hasnt been dealt a good hand. Still being only 24 years old and who was a winner before the NFL. That person is Josh Rosen. Is it worth a trade to pick up atlantas 3rd qb who knows but im sure it will take close to nothing to get him. If not we ride Jones into 2022 sunset. I personally have seen enough. On his successful run , he was holding that football loosely. The kid is never going to change. It is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 18:25:23 GMT -5
A hard fought 27-24 loss would have been heartbreaking but I could have sorta lived with it in a short week. Competitive football. Just being in a game playing real football.
This was completely deflating. We didnt even try to win. Playcalling was totally conservative, and execution was nonexistent.
Where the hell were all our 'weapons'? Where was the secondary? Why was judge throwing flags on a scoring play?
What a dreadful start.
Its not impossible this turns around, but we still have a long climb
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Post by nyg2 on Sept 12, 2021 18:25:27 GMT -5
trade the picks for watson and call it day... easy haha He needs to clear his name first and close that chapter before anything happens.
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