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Post by DandyDon on Sept 12, 2021 19:06:42 GMT -5
Is all begins with the brass. John Mara has no understing of football. So he hires Gettleman, who drafts the "touched by the hand of god" Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones. So there it is, especially with this QB. We suck big time. I guess God forgot to touch the Giants OL after he touched Saquon... At this point I truly believe it is an old out of touch ownership problem. The owners insist on running this multi billion dollar business like a family business. They are way too involved in the nuts and bolts of finding management talent.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 19:06:59 GMT -5
If anyone here watched the Eagles game and their first year QB and the play of Jones, its obvious that Jones is not the guy! Hurts in his first season looked like a seasoned 10 year pro! Jones looked like crap in his third year! What else is there to know! Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Sept 12, 2021 19:09:58 GMT -5
If anyone here watched the Eagles game and their first year QB and the play of Jones, its obvious that Jones is not the guy! Hurts in his first season looked like a seasoned 10 year pro! Jones looked like crap in his third year! What else is there to know! Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so. Ok, the Broncos D is good; but what about their shitty offense that just dropped a 27 turd on the Giants lawn?
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Post by babybulls on Sept 12, 2021 19:10:04 GMT -5
Lots of reason why they lost today, but that fumble was the back breaker. Score there and then hope for a stop could then Posse buy have let to another score. Yeah, I know I’m dreaming, but it’s all I’ve got left.
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Post by Bigjeep on Sept 12, 2021 19:11:16 GMT -5
If anyone here watched the Eagles game and their first year QB and the play of Jones, its obvious that Jones is not the guy! Hurts in his first season looked like a seasoned 10 year pro! Jones looked like crap in his third year! What else is there to know! Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so. There's more to a QB then an arm and Jones just doesn't have the Intangibles that can't be taught. I don't see any improvement.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Sept 12, 2021 19:13:19 GMT -5
Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so. Ok, the Broncos D is good; but what about their shitty offense that just dropped a 27 turd on the Giants lawn? Not to forget all the offseason talk about how finally Daniel Jones would have a complete offense around him. Bottom line is he sucks above all else in this team. He is the beginning and the end.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 19:14:14 GMT -5
Very frustrated but numb. Giants been trash for years and not even angry, just disappointed. The only good thing now is that the Giants have a bunch of extra draft picks in 2022. High probability that DG, Garrett, Jones and Judge may even be on the chopping block. Lol, maybe the Giants will be able to get 2 top 10 picks.... I think if they can' t get that defense straight they will all be fired and should be, I honestly believe if the defense could have gotten 3 or 4 stops the offense had a chance, this was worse because the strength of the team what they hung their hat on the defense was terrible, Lost at times.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 12, 2021 19:18:53 GMT -5
If anyone here watched the Eagles game and their first year QB and the play of Jones, its obvious that Jones is not the guy! Hurts in his first season looked like a seasoned 10 year pro! Jones looked like crap in his third year! What else is there to know! Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so. WFT has one of the better D's in the league as well. Won't be any easier Thursday night.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 19:24:16 GMT -5
That was a bummer game..
Wish they didn't have a short week..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 19:27:59 GMT -5
Jones isn't perfect but Denver is one of the better defenses in the league and has a top 5 pass defense, The Eagle played the Falcons they aren't very good they might turn it around but i don't think so. WFT has one of the better D's in the league as well. Won't be any easier Thursday night. Yea and they will be desperate Giants need to get the ball to the offense and see what they can do, I'm hoping this is sloppy easy season issues for the defense, on offense it was expected they didn't play together all preseason it wa son surprise that Shep who was there all preseason and Slayton got the most targets and shep made them count someone needs to beat Slayton out to many drops.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 12, 2021 19:30:10 GMT -5
WFT has one of the better D's in the league as well. Won't be any easier Thursday night. Yea and they will be desperate Giants need to get the ball to the offense and see what they can do, I'm hoping this is sloppy easy season issues for the defense, on offense it was expected they didn't play together all preseason it wa son surprise that Shep who was there all preseason and Slayton got the most targets and shep made them count someone needs to beat Slayton out to many drops. agreed, and that someone should be Golladay.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 12, 2021 19:31:41 GMT -5
Even more concerning than the L today was the fact there was no progression in our offense or defense or coaching. No step forward. Our QB still makes rookie decisions. Our God RB can't run the ball. Our OL sucks. Our defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down. We can't sack the QB. And finally we still commit terrible penalties as they are undisciplined.
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Post by JoeyCush on Sept 12, 2021 19:33:37 GMT -5
Watching the LA Rams run a real offense is nice.
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Post by bigbluebrazil on Sept 12, 2021 19:37:10 GMT -5
Aside from DJ and the offense, which is the focus here, gotta say the D layed an egg big time. The Broncos offense was terrible last year and Brigdewater is not all that.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 12, 2021 19:44:24 GMT -5
Aside from DJ and the offense, which is the focus here, gotta say the D layed an egg big time. The Broncos offense was terrible last year and Brigdewater is not all that. That's been covered too. Problem is, the #2 #4 #6 and now #20 draft picks the last 4 drafts were all spent on offense. Plus we spend a lot of coin on Golladay. You are right though, it all sucked.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 19:47:06 GMT -5
Even more concerning than the L today was the fact there was no progression in our offense or defense or coaching. No step forward. Our QB still makes rookie decisions. Our God RB can't run the ball. Our OL sucks. Our defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down. We can't sack the QB. And finally we still commit terrible penalties as they are undisciplined. I thought Jones had plenty of time most of the game and the run game never got going because they never had the ball or a lead. If they can get Pearts head out of his ass maybe he can hold the right side down. this game had a solid 70% on the defense they left the offense sitting for 55 minutes almost an hour how are you gonna run the ball like that. I'm saying if this doesn't get right fast we will be cleaning house once again I have seen bad starts and teams come together so I willl give 4 to 8 games but they better shape up.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 19:51:55 GMT -5
Aside from DJ and the offense, which is the focus here, gotta say the D layed an egg big time. The Broncos offense was terrible last year and Brigdewater is not all that. That's been covered too. Problem is, the #2 #4 #6 and now #20 draft picks the last 4 drafts were all spent on offense. Plus we spend a lot of coin on Golladay. You are right though, it all sucked. The Bronco's offense is stacked up now, with Weapons all over still no excuse if you want to win gotta beat talented teams and make stops that was the biggest killer today they had to lose TOP by 40 or more minutes. near the end of the 3rd qt the Bronco's had for 36 minutes.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 12, 2021 19:59:45 GMT -5
That's been covered too. Problem is, the #2 #4 #6 and now #20 draft picks the last 4 drafts were all spent on offense. Plus we spend a lot of coin on Golladay. You are right though, it all sucked. The Bronco's offense is stacked up now, with Weapons all over still no excuse if you want to win gotta beat talented teams and make stops that was the biggest killer today they had to lose TOP by 40 or more minutes. near the end of the 3rd qt the Bronco's had for 36 minutes. Had nothing to do with their weapons and everything to do with our pass rush, or lack thereof. They also owned us with TEs all game, which is common at this point for the Giants, but that is secondary to our non-existent pass rush.
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Post by SemperFi on Sept 12, 2021 20:00:08 GMT -5
Saquon doesn’t look right yetHe has never looked comfortable to me, going north and south. Something we may have to live with? Or not
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 12, 2021 20:36:10 GMT -5
Secondary not performing the way I expected TB playing smart, extending plays getting it done so far no pass rush, no run defense, top 5 defense my A$$ Chris Pflum ( BBV ) , noted , at the end of the third quarter. Denver , had the ball , for just under 30 minutes .
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 12, 2021 20:54:24 GMT -5
Newton is useless and Watson might be in Jail for years I think we should revisit this around mid season it is 1 game maybe they will pull together teddy Bridgewater would have been a great fit for this team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 20:56:44 GMT -5
no pass rush, no run defense, top 5 defense my A$$ Chris Pflum ( BBV ) , noted , at the end of the third quarter. Denver , had the ball , for just under 30 minutes . I thought they were over 30 wow they had a stat of 36 minutes still a whole half of ball just killed the whole game.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 20:59:40 GMT -5
I think we should revisit this around mid season it is 1 game maybe they will pull together teddy Bridgewater would have been a great fit for this team. A lot of people wanted him here can't say because he wouldn't be playing with the kind of weapons denver put together for him last year in Carolina he wasn't so hot with less protection and lesser weapons.
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 12, 2021 21:05:14 GMT -5
I think we should revisit this around mid season it is 1 game maybe they will pull together teddy Bridgewater would have been a great fit for this team. Should, the Raiders have a off year. Derek Carr may be available. Gruden (Guru ), loved Jones at the Senior Bowl. Carr, would be a dramatic improvement and can take s team to the Super Bowl.
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 12, 2021 21:07:09 GMT -5
Play calling has been awful. Is it possible that better execution would improve one's opinion of the play calling?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 21:33:30 GMT -5
teddy Bridgewater would have been a great fit for this team. Should, the Raiders have a off year. Derek Carr may be available. Gruden (Guru ), loved Jones at the Senior Bowl. Carr, would be a dramatic improvement and can take s team to the Super Bowl. Carr is Tony Romo like Probably good enough to take you to tbe playoffs then choke
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 21:34:43 GMT -5
teddy Bridgewater would have been a great fit for this team. A lot of people wanted him here can't say because he wouldn't be playing with the kind of weapons denver put together for him last year in Carolina he wasn't so hot with less protection and lesser weapons. Shurmer also had Bridgewater in Minnesota
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 21:38:10 GMT -5
A lot of people wanted him here can't say because he wouldn't be playing with the kind of weapons denver put together for him last year in Carolina he wasn't so hot with less protection and lesser weapons. Shurmer also had Bridgewater in Minnesota I heard John Smelk interview Bradberry today and he said the studied bridgewater last year but not back to his Minnesota days I thought it was odd because that was what they should have studied when he was with his OC.
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 12, 2021 21:39:52 GMT -5
Should, the Raiders have a off year. Derek Carr may be available. Gruden (Guru ), loved Jones at the Senior Bowl. Carr, would be a dramatic improvement and can take s team to the Super Bowl. Carr is Tony Romo like Probably good enough to take you to tbe playoffs then choke i disagree , he defeated Mahomes and the Chiefs, in a shootout at Arrowhead. Plus, he is hundred times better then Jones.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 12, 2021 21:42:24 GMT -5
Should, the Raiders have a off year. Derek Carr may be available. Gruden (Guru ), loved Jones at the Senior Bowl. Carr, would be a dramatic improvement and can take s team to the Super Bowl. Carr is Tony Romo like Probably good enough to take you to tbe playoffs then choke This is one game, we need to see how this goes they have this whole year to evaluate what Jones is if they don't win the decision is simple, this offense hasn't played together all preseason hopefully they can time it up and get going. also Bredeson played next to Thomas and they looked good together and from what I gathered so far Hernandez was stout at RG just a few positives.
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