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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 12:06:59 GMT -5
Like Brightwell? Lol. Ok and that’s why you would be a horribly GM. A RB over a potential 1st round guard who played his entire senior year without any issues. That’s laughable. You probably supported taking Barkley at #2 overall. RISK VS REWARD, is that a new concept to you? It's situational to each team and he would have been a perfect risk for the Giants to take. Passionately arguing hindsight while shitting on a rookie RB who earned his roster spot and has done nothing wrong as of yet is hilarious. Here's your crown King... 👑 There was no hindsight, I may have even posted it during the draft thread. It has nothing to do with shitting on a RB. What’s hilarious is you don’t understand risk vs reward, positional value or the needs of this team. You think a RB was needed more than a guard. I thought you played football, that’s football 101.
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Post by jb456 on Sept 16, 2021 12:11:12 GMT -5
Good point but this will just prolong the problem in the future. Now, if they draft Oline in 2022 they will have to wait even longer to develop a player. Hell, you even mentioned in multiple posts that you expected the Giants to draft a Guard and wanted them to. It was logical to draft a guard since they were losing their best Oline, who also happened to be a Guard. Why are people glossing over acquiring Bredeson? I see that as an extra 2020 o line pick for us The Giants were being reactionary and not pro active in acquiring Bredeson. Hopefully he can stabilize the position but who knows. Before Lemieux's injury, the Giants had a under-performing guard and a 5th round draft pick, who was atrocious at pass blocking, penciled in as their starting guards. Stevie Wonder could this problem emerging. Hell, brain dead talking heads who probably only look at the box score were having conversations about this problem.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 16, 2021 12:52:05 GMT -5
I dont trust any moves they make with the OL anymore. I do know an OL needs consistency. Moving Gates would be kind of odd and dumb IMO. We did just have an injury setback with a starting G. they signed back ups. Put them in. Thats what they are for. Lemeuix aint all that good anyway yet.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 16, 2021 13:08:23 GMT -5
confirmed that Gates will start at LG with Price at Center due to Lemieux's injury. Kim Jones just confirmed on NFL network.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 16, 2021 13:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by te88 on Sept 16, 2021 13:17:27 GMT -5
confirmed that Gates will start at LG with Price at Center due to Lemieux's injury. Kim Jones just confirmed on NFL network. I sincerely hope Hernandez and Solder are benched but I’m sure they won’t be.
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Post by imgrate on Sept 16, 2021 13:18:15 GMT -5
Passionately arguing hindsight while shitting on a rookie RB who earned his roster spot and has done nothing wrong as of yet is hilarious. Here's your crown King... 👑 There was no hindsight, I may have even posted it during the draft thread. It has nothing to do with shitting on a RB. What’s hilarious is you don’t understand risk vs reward, positional value or the needs of this team. You think a RB was needed more than a guard. I thought you played football, that’s football 101. I mean, its a 6th round pick..those guys get cut all across the league, getting anyone that ends up worthy of a NFL roster in the 6th round is a win regardless of position. Now if your argument was centered on some of the early round lineman, then I think you'd have a point.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 16, 2021 13:20:39 GMT -5
confirmed that Gates will start at LG with Price at Center due to Lemieux's injury. Kim Jones just confirmed on NFL network. I sincerely hope Hernandez and Solder are benched but I’m sure they won’t be. Nope you get to watch Solder get destroyed by Chase/Sweat.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 16, 2021 13:21:31 GMT -5
We did just have an injury setback with a starting G. they signed back ups. Put them in. Thats what they are for. Lemeuix aint all that good anyway yet. He was until he got hurt Sunday. It may be a while before we find out now.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 16, 2021 13:23:03 GMT -5
they signed back ups. Put them in. Thats what they are for. Lemeuix aint all that good anyway yet. He was until he got hurt Sunday. It may be a while before we find out now. In his 16 or 17 snaps last week he did look good and that was with the bum knee.
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 16, 2021 13:29:02 GMT -5
Thomas-Bredeson- Gates- Hernandez Solder , will start.
If, Hernandez falters then either Skura or Price will Play RG.
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Post by bluejayc on Sept 16, 2021 13:32:08 GMT -5
****ing cluster****…..fully expecting 1+ QB/Center exchange fumbles. 🤦🏼♂️
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 16, 2021 13:34:22 GMT -5
He was until he got hurt Sunday. It may be a while before we find out now. In his 16 or 17 snaps last week he did look good and that was with the bum knee. Yep And Bredeson looked good as well Yet they move Gates over and let a guy who had 4 practices at C for us start What can go wrong here folks ?
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 16, 2021 13:35:45 GMT -5
In his 16 or 17 snaps last week he did look good and that was with the bum knee. Yep And Bredeson looked good as well Yet they move Gates over and let a guy who had 4 practices at C for us start What can go wrong here folks ? We traded a 4th round pick for Bredeson and essentially gave up on him lol
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 16, 2021 13:40:26 GMT -5
Our offensive line has a higher turnover rate than the fast food business. The one good offensive lineman we got, is now being moved. Good timing, it’s against a stout Washington defensive line.
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Post by jb456 on Sept 16, 2021 13:48:36 GMT -5
The Giants are a freaking circus. All they need is a circus master, oh wait, they already have Jason Garrett....
Why would anyone have a good feeling about this? Washington's front 7 are their strength and the Giants are playing musical chairs on their Oline.
What's the over / under on Jones fumbling? 2?
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 13:52:25 GMT -5
There was no hindsight, I may have even posted it during the draft thread. It has nothing to do with shitting on a RB. What’s hilarious is you don’t understand risk vs reward, positional value or the needs of this team. You think a RB was needed more than a guard. I thought you played football, that’s football 101. I mean, its a 6th round pick..those guys get cut all across the league, getting anyone that ends up worthy of a NFL roster in the 6th round is a win regardless of position. Now if your argument was centered on some of the early round lineman, then I think you'd have a point. Maybe you don’t understand. He was widely regarded as one of the top guards in the draft and a potential 1st rounder AND I STAND CORRECTED, TREY SMITH MISSED PART OF HIS SOPHMORE YEAR DUE TO BLOOD CLOTS AND PLAYED HIS JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEAR WITH NO ISSUES. (not bolding it for you, just so everyone can see it a little better). You made my point of why it was stupid that we passed on him, especially for a 6th round RB. walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021TSmith.php
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 13:54:45 GMT -5
This can’t be! All the homers just told us there was NO WAY this could happen, not a chance. The media has no idea what they’re talking about.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 13:56:33 GMT -5
If that's the case then why is Bredeson here? 🤔 Im not buying it, smells like media looking for pre-game clicks. Don't fall for it. Nailed it again, you’re on your A game today my man!
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 13:58:05 GMT -5
If that's the case then why is Bredeson here? 🤔 Im not buying it, smells like media looking for pre-game clicks. Don't fall for it. I hope you are right Because every moron on BBV that wanted to replace Gates will have gotten their wish and their karma will be the blood on their hands cod wanting this stupidity Let's do this with only 2 practices and the new C not even knowing protections Hope in one hand, believe in Gettlemans bullshit in the other and see which fills up first.
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Post by bluebuddha on Sept 16, 2021 14:00:32 GMT -5
Any word from the Giants if in fact Gates is moving? I see more and more reports. Was there any practice reports where Gates was playing guard? Who was playing center?
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 14:03:04 GMT -5
In his 16 or 17 snaps last week he did look good and that was with the bum knee. Yep And Bredeson looked good as well Yet they move Gates over and let a guy who had 4 practices at C for us start What can go wrong here folks ? Are you saying you don’t trust Gettleman and Judge’s professional opinion? I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing more than some non football playing couch potatoes. They’ve been watching most of these guys all of pre season and have been doing this a long time. Trust the process. If you don’t trust the Giants professionals, surely you can trust your boy Gunner, he played football and said not to fall for it, just media click bait. What could possibly go wrong? We end up with two high first round draft picks and Gettleman is still the GM?
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Post by hadenough on Sept 16, 2021 14:10:29 GMT -5
Yep And Bredeson looked good as well Yet they move Gates over and let a guy who had 4 practices at C for us start What can go wrong here folks ? Are you saying you don’t trust Gettleman and Judge’s professional opinion? I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing more than some non football playing couch potatoes. They’ve been watching most of these guys all of pre season and have been doing this a long time. Trust the process. If you don’t trust the Giants professionals, surely you can trust your boy Gunner, he played football and said not to fall for it, just media click bait. What could possibly go wrong? We end up with two high first round draft picks and Gettleman is still the GM? Imagine that…Giants get 2 top 5 picks and Gettleman blows both.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 16, 2021 14:12:37 GMT -5
This can’t be! All the homers just told us there was NO WAY this could happen, not a chance. The media has no idea what they’re talking about. Nobody said it couldn't happen, they said there was no official word. Until now.
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Post by vinnie on Sept 16, 2021 14:24:08 GMT -5
This can’t be! All the homers just told us there was NO WAY this could happen, not a chance. The media has no idea what they’re talking about. Nobody said it couldn't happen, they said there was no official word. Until now. How about strongly suggesting it couldn’t nor wouldn’t happen, that better? I never said the Giants can’t make the playoffs but there’s a snowballs chance in hell they won’t.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 16, 2021 14:42:16 GMT -5
confirmed that Gates will start at LG with Price at Center due to Lemieux's injury. Kim Jones just confirmed on NFL network. I seen it Fletch, I think it's just as good if not better. The left side might hold their own vs this great DL of Washington. Lets run left tonight. That right side is still a question mark to be kind. Barkley will be severely limited tonight. I fear their D has their way with our OL and stuffs the run and we go quick dump offs again on pass plays. Can we hold them to 20 or under ? Can we score over 21 ?
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 16, 2021 14:46:25 GMT -5
Well, this should be interesting to tonight...🤨
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 15:13:31 GMT -5
If that's the case then why is Bredeson here? 🤔 Im not buying it, smells like media looking for pre-game clicks. Don't fall for it. Oh my goodness... I was wrong. Queue the music for you to dance to
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Post by redeyejedi on Sept 16, 2021 19:07:38 GMT -5
Im guessing they are regretting not drafting at least 1 OL in the draft right about now. You can't afford not to keep drafting them. If you want a quality line you have to take at least 1 every year in the top 4 rounds. To much potiental for injuries and quality lineman cost a fortune in FA.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 16, 2021 19:09:07 GMT -5
Im guessing they are regretting not drafting at least 1 OL in the draft right about now. You can't afford not to keep drafting them. If you want a quality line you have to take at least 1 every year in the top 4 rounds. To much potiental for injuries and quality lineman cost a fortune in FA. OL, DL, WR and CB. Every draft.
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