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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 13:17:43 GMT -5
Don't think its being broadcasted on the webpage like usual. NFL network might show a portion of it, from what i've read on twitter, but won't be the full thing.. If anyone's interested
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 12, 2022 13:24:20 GMT -5
Rumor from bbi
“Giants told WFAN that they are not allowed to air Mara live.”
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 12, 2022 13:27:24 GMT -5
Confirmed by WFAN lol
if WFAN has any stones, they shouldn’t replay the press conference. F the Giants.
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:36:33 GMT -5
yeah the fan guys are clearly annoyed at this.
I swear its so disheartening that everything we do now is just off.
I guess they want to have the ability to edit Mara before the world hears him, but this is part of it, speak live, be transparent, be real, enough with the nonsense, mara, stop tripping over your own feet.
play the damn conference giants.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jan 12, 2022 13:38:57 GMT -5
#Giants #JohnMara - "the GM will lead the search for the head coach but those decisions are always subject to final approval from ownership"
Likely the norm for all organizations yet sits so poorly with this chump.
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Post by jaymas on Jan 12, 2022 13:42:16 GMT -5
#Giants #JohnMara - "the GM will lead the search for the head coach but those decisions are always subject to final approval from ownership" Likely the norm for all organizations yet sits so poorly with this chump. Agree with this. We overstate it as being unique to us. The big difference is, John Mara's final approvals have been crap. Simply put, he's just done a bad job identifying the right people for the two most critical positions in the organization. |
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Post by lasion2 on Jan 12, 2022 13:42:18 GMT -5
My first instinct was that he’s trying to give the best guys an exclusive to curry favor.
But, I think that might be a little rosy. Trying to protect him is probably more correct
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:47:49 GMT -5
Well even this judge thing has been a bit clunky, and continues to be today, the normal rules are a bit skewed with the giants.
to me, it all just speaks to mara's wishy washy-ness.
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:48:07 GMT -5
and the conference is on the fan
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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 13:48:25 GMT -5
can't believe they asked not to air it live lol
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:50:09 GMT -5
oh its not really the whole thing apparently, they just played one question and theyre talking about it...
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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 13:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 13:54:45 GMT -5
oh its not really the whole thing apparently, they just played one question and theyre talking about it... Mara has no spine. As long as he stays hands off.. that's good. He's gotta get lucky on one of these hires eventually. |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:55:33 GMT -5
ugh, this isnt surprising to any of us but pretty awful to hear. we can throw stones at all the coaches, roster. and personal of this team, but at its heart its long reeked of mara's uncertainty and ignorance with this teams operation |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 13:58:13 GMT -5
this playing little 5 word snippets every ten minutes of maras answers is complete horseshit right now.
play his freaking presser giants. geezus.
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Post by wtfjjk on Jan 12, 2022 14:00:07 GMT -5
Yup, what we expected. He lost the room.
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Post by McCherry on Jan 12, 2022 14:00:34 GMT -5
That's all I need to know.
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Post by McCherry on Jan 12, 2022 14:01:35 GMT -5
Yup, what we expected. He lost the room. He lost the country, imagine what the poor players had to suffer through? |
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Post by FBomb on Jan 12, 2022 14:03:24 GMT -5
Ugh.....now I just want to punch him again. |
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Post by lt56 on Jan 12, 2022 14:12:47 GMT -5
going to players for their thoughts is a step in the right direction I would say
I knew all that tough old school disciplinarian making guys run laps...yeah that won't work in 2021 now 2022 so yeah I'm sure most of the players did not like Judge at all
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 12, 2022 14:13:06 GMT -5
So how many coach/GM firings will need to happen before the fan base stops celebrating that process and keeps pressure on our owner (and his family/friends) to step back. 3rd GM, 5th coach, in 6 years. His reaction to that question bothers me so much. He’s absolutely positive he’s not part of the problem???? Blind and stubborn. Check, check. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 12, 2022 14:14:54 GMT -5
So because he wouldn't give them the blood they were looking for he won't make meaningful change BS. when asked about his Brother he said he is an owner and a talented talent evaluator and they value his opinion and also said all decisions are the GMs and Coaches and have been. Leonard is a bigger weenie then Mara. |
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 12, 2022 14:16:10 GMT -5
ugh, this isnt surprising to any of us but pretty awful to hear. we can throw stones at all the coaches, roster. and personal of this team, but at its heart its long reeked of mara's uncertainty and ignorance with this teams operation Hearing he pushed back hard at that question bothers me so so so much. I had a little optimism that change was in the air. He’s just selling change. Buddy, if you’re not willing to turn your lens on yourself and the FO you’ve put together, then you’re being willfully ignorant. |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 14:17:10 GMT -5
So how many coach/GM firings will need to happen before the fan base stops celebrating that process and keeps pressure on our owner (and his family/friends) to step back. 3rd GM, 5th coach, in 6 years. His reaction to that question bothers me so much. He’s absolutely positive he’s not part of the problem???? Blind and stubborn. Check, check. Unfortunately for passive/casual fans who make in my mind would make up a large portion of any teams fan base is always quick to jump to the loose ends, bc they are whats obvious. Fans are always going to cry about HCs/GMs first bc its what they know. What they don't know is the scouting department, the people in charge of that depeartment, the owners, and all the other good stuff hidden behind the scenes There will be heat on the new hc and GM season two if it looks bad, just the way it is, but we can only hope mara has learned from his prior lessons. It appears hes going in the right direction with the gm.. well have to see how it all shakes out. |
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Post by ratbastich on Jan 12, 2022 14:19:34 GMT -5
going to players for their thoughts is a step in the right direction I would say I knew all that tough old school disciplinarian making guys run laps...yeah that won't work in 2021 now 2022 so yeah I'm sure most of the players did not like him at all I don't think it is "like" so much as respect. You can talk all the crap you want but if you are not winning then the edginess gets sharp and irritating really fast. You really wonder what it was like behind closed doors. Outside of the locker room it was really quiet from the players and even though they sucked they never looked like they just gave up, but maybe that was more about individual and team pride. |
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Post by allnygin on Jan 12, 2022 14:19:46 GMT -5
So because he wouldn't give them the blood they were looking for he won't make meaningful change BS. when asked about his Brother he said he is an owner and a talented talent evaluator and they value his opinion and also said all decisions are the GMs and Coaches and have been. Leonard is a bigger weenie then Mara. give them blood? These were honest questions any intelligent person would ask and want answered from a franchise that has been disheveled and ruined at one of its lowest points in its history and asking tough questions about those who have played a part in that is .... asking for blood? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 12, 2022 14:19:50 GMT -5
So how many coach/GM firings will need to happen before the fan base stops celebrating that process and keeps pressure on our owner (and his family/friends) to step back. 3rd GM, 5th coach, in 6 years. His reaction to that question bothers me so much. He’s absolutely positive he’s not part of the problem???? Blind and stubborn. Check, check. I don't think he needed to answer that question just like with TC we all including the person asking it new what it was. I'm gonna watch how this process unfolds before I side up with the media that is looking fro blood, I do like him talking to players the Rangers do that I believe at the end of every season it was probably why torts got fired years ago. He was tough on the players. |
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 14:20:04 GMT -5
Ok fan says they are to play the whole thing here after in just a few....
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Post by Tyrell on Jan 12, 2022 14:21:05 GMT -5
ugh, this isnt surprising to any of us but pretty awful to hear. we can throw stones at all the coaches, roster. and personal of this team, but at its heart its long reeked of mara's uncertainty and ignorance with this teams operation Hearing he pushed back hard at that question bothers me so so so much. I had a little optimism that change was in the air. He’s just selling change. Buddy, if you’re not willing to turn your lens on yourself and the FO you’ve put together, then you’re being willfully ignorant. yep 100% |
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Post by cdngfan on Jan 12, 2022 14:26:18 GMT -5
So how many coach/GM firings will need to happen before the fan base stops celebrating that process and keeps pressure on our owner (and his family/friends) to step back. 3rd GM, 5th coach, in 6 years. His reaction to that question bothers me so much. He’s absolutely positive he’s not part of the problem???? Blind and stubborn. Check, check. Unfortunately for passive/casual fans who make in my mind would make up a large portion of any teams fan base is always quick to jump to the loose ends, bc they are whats obvious. Fans are always going to cry about HCs/GMs first bc its what they know. What they don't know is the scouting department, the people in charge of that depeartment, the owners, and all the other good stuff hidden behind the scenes There will be heat on the new hc and GM season two if it looks bad, just the way it is, but we can only hope mara has learned from his prior lessons. It appears hes going in the right direction with the gm.. well have to see how it all shakes out. This could easily become a business school case in organizational change management. He just keeps trading out two pieces over and over with the same result for literally 6 years. I obviously hope he makes a great choice at GM, stays out of the way, and gives him the time an protection he needs to fix this. But is the scouting dependent good enough. If not, how long to fix it? Are his family members contributing to the management of this team or just supporting his opinions? Sounds like he doesn’t take criticism well. I just don’t have any confidence in this scenario. The fan base is too impatient and he’s not strong enough at talent evaluation and/or sticking with a plan long enough in the face of fan pressure (McAdoo, Shurmer, Garrett, Judge). |
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