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Post by knixknation on Feb 1, 2022 12:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by idkaname on Feb 1, 2022 12:23:26 GMT -5
Too classy for this squad
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Post by knixknation on Feb 1, 2022 12:26:33 GMT -5
Too classy for this squad Every see "Slap Shot"? We just take a couple of sledge hammers to the sides. Make it look mean.
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Post by idkaname on Feb 1, 2022 12:30:19 GMT -5
Too classy for this squad Every see "Slap Shot"? We just take a couple of sledge hammers to the sides. Make it look mean.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 1, 2022 12:31:03 GMT -5
The whole point is they can lose without them just as well as they have lost with them , this why Gettlemen had to go they should have been drafting for this they are all in the last years of their deals. They will draft their replacements and we will live the growing pains. They will be younger cheaper and hopefully better. teams who bring in expensive veterans seldom get the expected results, sometimes it works but most times all you do is waste money... At the end of the day when GMs are in trouble they do this if they can Reese did it Gettlemen did it. I could care less about the dead money it's not mine in the NFL when you make bad choices it's the cost of doing business, leave a desperate GM the freedom to spend they will. Just surprised Mara had to touch the stove twice to learn he ok'ed these spending sprees.
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Post by cdngfan on Feb 1, 2022 13:18:16 GMT -5
I think the “difficult decision” part comes from having to replace expensive players with less talented drafted rookies.
Those rookies can have a bigger upside but looking at 2022 we’re going to let go of players whose replacements wont be their immediate equal.
Of course if they’re just has talented and productive theres no hard decision. I think that’s a fan’s perspective rather than a coach breaking down tape on Martinez and looking to replace him in the draft (just an eg).
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Post by Speedman on Feb 1, 2022 13:21:28 GMT -5
I think the “difficult decision” part comes from having to replace expensive players with less talented drafted rookies. Those rookies can have a bigger upside but looking at 2022 we’re going to let go of players whose replacements wont be their immediate equal. Of course if they’re just has talented and productive theres no hard decision. I think that’s a fan’s perspective rather than a coach breaking down tape on Martinez and looking to replace him in the draft (just an eg). Not the case for the offensive line.
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Post by knixknation on Feb 1, 2022 13:26:38 GMT -5
Every see "Slap Shot"? We just take a couple of sledge hammers to the sides. Make it look mean.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Feb 1, 2022 15:14:20 GMT -5
These are not difficult decisions because we are not at any kind of Crossroads yet. We are starting from scratch so who comes and who goes doesn't really matter. I expect more than haflf or FA will not be signed and some non FA Will simply be cut. I do not think the cap/business decisions are that hard. They become difficult only because some of the casualties are good well liked guys whose main problem is they got injured. If there is any hope for Sheps health I would not rule him out 100%. I could see Blake being cut. Peppers gone. They may bite the painful cap bullet and say bye to KG but that is not likely till after next season.
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Post by lt56 on Feb 1, 2022 22:00:51 GMT -5
NFL Teams always find ways to work around the Cap so this shouldn't be hard
as this point if someone is willing to take Leonard Williams huge deal you would likely have to consider it
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Post by te88 on Feb 1, 2022 22:30:28 GMT -5
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 1, 2022 22:34:28 GMT -5
Lazy Ralph, Golladay will cost money
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 1, 2022 22:36:19 GMT -5
Does Ralphie Boy know Golladay will add 23 million to our cap number via instant dead money hit?
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Post by redeyejedi on Feb 1, 2022 22:43:57 GMT -5
So it begins, another reset. With it comes the optimism, the team is built right this time from the ground up So with having to make player decisons for the cap, I say fire away! There is some core players to build the future on that we know like Thomas, Toney and McKinney It does put pressure on the draft since the rookies are going to be playing day one, especially addressing the OL since it looks like DJ will be at the helm for year 4 and he will need to be protected. This is a good reason to hire Dabol since he may be the only OCs to be interviewed and DJ's last/best opportunity to prove he is a capable QB. Still I am excited to see how the team comes togehter for next season I just really hope we see a turnaroind in 2-3 years and not any longer! 27 million dollar cap hit for Leonard Williams is insane. Good player but come on
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Post by te88 on Feb 2, 2022 6:57:13 GMT -5
Does Ralphie Boy know Golladay will add 23 million to our cap number via instant dead money hit? I think so. With Beane in Buffalo they ate like 40M in dead money the first year to clean things out if I read correctly. Not saying he’s gonna cut Golladay but O don’t think he’s afraid of dead money.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 2, 2022 7:54:31 GMT -5
Does Ralphie Boy know Golladay will add 23 million to our cap number via instant dead money hit? I think so. With Beane in Buffalo they ate like 40M in dead money the first year to clean things out if I read correctly. Not saying he’s gonna cut Golladay but O don’t think he’s afraid of dead money. OK I have no problem with dead money if it can be absorbed You will he adding 23 million this year with barely any savings.. Cutting him means we won't have any room after other cuts to even sign draft picks
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Post by TEM on Feb 2, 2022 8:11:34 GMT -5
I think so. With Beane in Buffalo they ate like 40M in dead money the first year to clean things out if I read correctly. Not saying he’s gonna cut Golladay but O don’t think he’s afraid of dead money. OK I have no problem with dead money if it can be absorbed You will he adding 23 million this year with barely any savings.. Cutting him means we won't have any room after other cuts to even sign draft picks Placing too much dead money on the cap will hamper the FO's ability to build the roster. We have 20 active FAs. Those positions have to be refilled no matter what. Even if Bradburry, Martinez, Shepard are cut. It only frees up 16 million. Anyone else creates little to or negative cap space. We still need to fill out the roster and pay our draft picks. They are going to have to renegotiate some the bigger contracts to free up money.
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Post by imgrate on Feb 2, 2022 8:47:02 GMT -5
I think so. With Beane in Buffalo they ate like 40M in dead money the first year to clean things out if I read correctly. Not saying he’s gonna cut Golladay but O don’t think he’s afraid of dead money. OK I have no problem with dead money if it can be absorbed You will he adding 23 million this year with barely any savings.. Cutting him means we won't have any room after other cuts to even sign draft picks There's cap savings to be had from KG if we cut him after 6/1 or trade him
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Post by imgrate on Feb 2, 2022 8:51:49 GMT -5
OK I have no problem with dead money if it can be absorbed You will he adding 23 million this year with barely any savings.. Cutting him means we won't have any room after other cuts to even sign draft picks Placing too much dead money on the cap will hamper the FO's ability to build the roster. We have 20 active FAs. Those positions have to be refilled no matter what. Even if Bradburry, Martinez, Shepard are cut. It only frees up 16 million. Anyone else creates little to or negative cap space. We still need to fill out the roster and pay our draft picks. They are going to have to renegotiate some the bigger contracts to free up money. Rudolph and Dixon are probably goners, too. Combined they free up 8 mill, with only 2-3mill in dead cap (off top of my head)
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 2, 2022 8:55:22 GMT -5
OK I have no problem with dead money if it can be absorbed You will he adding 23 million this year with barely any savings.. Cutting him means we won't have any room after other cuts to even sign draft picks There's cap savings to be had from KG if we cut him after 6/1 or trade him OK didn't think of that but part of the cap hit **** it..UT... Trade h8m for a 3rd or 4th and use that pick and another mid round one of WRs.. Plenty of mid round talent on playmakers as usual
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Post by imgrate on Feb 2, 2022 9:06:25 GMT -5
There's cap savings to be had from KG if we cut him after 6/1 or trade him OK didn't think of that but part of the cap hit **** it..UT... Trade h8m for a 3rd or 4th and use that pick and another mid round one of WRs.. Plenty of mid round talent on playmakers as usual Yea i didn't either until about 10 minutes ago. It's not a bad idea to trade him. I just really don't know how good KG is or ever was.
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 2, 2022 9:38:46 GMT -5
OK didn't think of that but part of the cap hit **** it..UT... Trade h8m for a 3rd or 4th and use that pick and another mid round one of WRs.. Plenty of mid round talent on playmakers as usual Yea i didn't either until about 10 minutes ago. It's not a bad idea to trade him. I just really don't know how good KG is or ever was. Hes a baller. One of my favorite WRs in the NFL, even before he was a Giant. Wait til Daboll designs plays for him, I think he might be the best jump ball WR in the game, insane catch radius, hes no off the line burner, think Plax.
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Post by TEM on Feb 2, 2022 9:46:47 GMT -5
Placing too much dead money on the cap will hamper the FO's ability to build the roster. We have 20 active FAs. Those positions have to be refilled no matter what. Even if Bradburry, Martinez, Shepard are cut. It only frees up 16 million. Anyone else creates little to or negative cap space. We still need to fill out the roster and pay our draft picks. They are going to have to renegotiate some the bigger contracts to free up money. Rudolph and Dixon are probably goners, too. Combined they free up 8 mill, with only 2-3mill in dead cap (off top of my head) Dixon frees up around 2.5 mm. You can't get a punter for what is free cap space gives. Rudolph only frees up 2.5 million. Peanuts.
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Post by idkaname on Feb 2, 2022 9:50:48 GMT -5
Yea i didn't either until about 10 minutes ago. It's not a bad idea to trade him. I just really don't know how good KG is or ever was. Hes a baller. One of my favorite WRs in the NFL, even before he was a Giant. Wait til Daboll designs plays for him, I think he might be the best jump ball WR in the game, insane catch radius, hes no off the line burner, think Plax. I recall Plax being pretty damn fast...he had shiftiness and YAC ability...one of my favorite plays was the quick screen outside to Plax...always made the first guy miss
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 2, 2022 10:19:59 GMT -5
Hes a baller. One of my favorite WRs in the NFL, even before he was a Giant. Wait til Daboll designs plays for him, I think he might be the best jump ball WR in the game, insane catch radius, hes no off the line burner, think Plax. I recall Plax being pretty damn fast...he had shiftiness and YAC ability...one of my favorite plays was the quick screen outside to Plax...always made the first guy miss This Golladay is kinda not Mike this at all...
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Post by imgrate on Feb 2, 2022 10:24:16 GMT -5
Rudolph and Dixon are probably goners, too. Combined they free up 8 mill, with only 2-3mill in dead cap (off top of my head) Dixon frees up around 2.5 mm. You can't get a punter for what is free cap space gives. Rudolph only frees up 2.5 million. Peanuts. Cutting Rudolph frees us 5mill. His production can be replaced by a mid round pick with a 800k cap hit. So net gain of 4.2mill in cap space Half the starting punters in the league had a cap hit of less than 1mill. Cutting and replacing Dixon is a net of 1.5mill savings.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Feb 2, 2022 14:26:24 GMT -5
Yet we kept the guy that manages the cap... smh
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Post by GameTime on Feb 2, 2022 14:29:59 GMT -5
Yet we kept the guy that manages the cap... smh wasnt his fault they are in cap trouble. The GM and coach say we need this player...make it work. the new GM and HC will do the same as they purge this roster. Hopefully with better results
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Feb 2, 2022 14:31:58 GMT -5
Yet we kept the guy that manages the cap... smh wasnt his fault they are in cap trouble. The GM and coach say we need this player...make it work. the new GM and HC will do the same as they purge this roster. Hopefully with better results He could say, ummm no , this will put us in future cap hell... i get what your saying but collectivly they did a poor job at it while rebuilding, we should have had a ton of room.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 2, 2022 14:33:25 GMT -5
wasnt his fault they are in cap trouble. The GM and coach say we need this player...make it work. the new GM and HC will do the same as they purge this roster. Hopefully with better results He could say, ummm no , this will put us in future cap hell... i get what your saying but collectivly they did a poor job at it while rebuilding, we should have had a ton of room. maybe he did say that and DG said.."so what".
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