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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 2, 2022 15:17:57 GMT -5
He could say, ummm no , this will put us in future cap hell... i get what your saying but collectivly they did a poor job at it while rebuilding, we should have had a ton of room. maybe he did say that and DG said.."so what". They whole organization is lost. Read the link please. Try not to vomit at quotes from all. (link doesn’t work of course) NFL free agency has evolved into a mix of blind dates and musical chairs. Teams often commit millions of dollars to players without meeting face to face – a practice conducted even before the pandemic – at the risk of being the last one standing. The Giants, however, did it differently this year. Their relatively long courtship of free agents like Kenny Golladay, regarded as the top wide receiver on the market, was well-documented as they wined, dined, and ultimately signed. "We had them in here and it was an old-school free agency," general manager Dave Gettleman said Tuesday. "We got to talk, a chance to visit with them, they went out to dinner with various people in the organization, they were here a couple of nights, our doctors were able to put their hands on them. It was an old-fashioned free agency." "It wasn't just our decision, the players wanted to come in as well," vice president of football operations and assistant general manager Kevin Abrams said. "Both parties wanted to have the visit." GM Dave Gettleman, Asst. GM Kevin Abrams recap offseason moves The result was a free-agent class that surprised everyone but the people in the building. "We got a pretty good understanding of what they're about and that, to me, was a big advantage," team president and chief executive officer John Mara said a few weeks ago when the dust settled after the first wave of free agency. "It's much more difficult to do this when you can't get the guys in the building and you have to make a commitment to a large amount of money without getting a chance to eye them up and talk to them and get a feel for them. I was happy that we were able to do that this year. It made it easier to give the final okay to say, 'Yeah, go ahead, get the thing signed.'" Mara described the approach as "thorough" in the recruiting cycle, stemming from the philosophy that fit supersedes skill when building a team. There was also a tangible reason to bring prospective players in for a visit: medical examination. In 2020, Golladay missed Weeks 2 and 3 with a hamstring injury and the final nine games with a hip flexor strain. "Well, you bring him in because you want to get a physical on him," Gettleman said. "That was the biggest reason, get a physical on him. But it was nice for a change to get to know a guy and have that opportunity to do that. Like I said, it was like the old days. The biggest reason was the physical." Meanwhile, a medical check of Kyle Rudolph, who signed with the Giants after a decade in Minnesota, revealed the need for the two-time Pro Bowl tight end to undergo a procedure to repair a foot injury stemming from last season. Despite the discovery coming after he had agreed to terms, the Giants felt confident to follow through with the signing. "Once he went through all the medical evaluations, we didn't think that it was necessary [to adjust the contract]," Abrams said. "We are the Giants, we're going to do everything with class," Gettleman said. "We had an agreement, [head athletic trainer] Ronnie [Barnes] signed off on it, [head team physician] Doc [Scott] Rodeo signed off on it, so we were fine." While people like to count the dollars spent, how does the front office quantify how much they improved in free agency? "From my opinion, and I think Dave would agree, I think our roster is a lot better now than it was at the end of the season," Abrams said. "And the offseason is not over yet, so we'll still have more opportunities to add players. So, I think we feel good with what we've done. I think we're a deeper, more talented team." "You know, you can't quantify it," Gettleman said. "It's not going to be quantified until the fall and we start playing in September. But we feel very good about what we've done, we feel very good about the direction the team is taking with getting Kenny signed and Kyle Rudolph and Devontae Booker and Adoree' Jackson and Leo. We feel really great about that and we really feel we're building a solid football team that the fans can be proud of." And they're not done yet. The Giants hold six picks in next week's draft, starting with the No. 11 overall selection. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 2, 2022 15:45:17 GMT -5
He could say, ummm no , this will put us in future cap hell... i get what your saying but collectivly they did a poor job at it while rebuilding, we should have had a ton of room. maybe he did say that and DG said.."so what". Remember Davy and Goliath. I can picture this scene going on in free agency time Abrams as the Jesus freak dog Davey Davey....I don't think it's a good idea to have all that guaranteed money on that contract... Gettleman...Phooey... |
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Post by GameTime on Feb 2, 2022 16:21:21 GMT -5
maybe he did say that and DG said.."so what". They whole organization is lost. Read the link please. Try not to vomit at quotes from all. (link doesn’t work of course) NFL free agency has evolved into a mix of blind dates and musical chairs. Teams often commit millions of dollars to players without meeting face to face – a practice conducted even before the pandemic – at the risk of being the last one standing. The Giants, however, did it differently this year. Their relatively long courtship of free agents like Kenny Golladay, regarded as the top wide receiver on the market, was well-documented as they wined, dined, and ultimately signed. "We had them in here and it was an old-school free agency," general manager Dave Gettleman said Tuesday. "We got to talk, a chance to visit with them, they went out to dinner with various people in the organization, they were here a couple of nights, our doctors were able to put their hands on them. It was an old-fashioned free agency." "It wasn't just our decision, the players wanted to come in as well," vice president of football operations and assistant general manager Kevin Abrams said. "Both parties wanted to have the visit." GM Dave Gettleman, Asst. GM Kevin Abrams recap offseason moves The result was a free-agent class that surprised everyone but the people in the building. "We got a pretty good understanding of what they're about and that, to me, was a big advantage," team president and chief executive officer John Mara said a few weeks ago when the dust settled after the first wave of free agency. "It's much more difficult to do this when you can't get the guys in the building and you have to make a commitment to a large amount of money without getting a chance to eye them up and talk to them and get a feel for them. I was happy that we were able to do that this year. It made it easier to give the final okay to say, 'Yeah, go ahead, get the thing signed.'" Mara described the approach as "thorough" in the recruiting cycle, stemming from the philosophy that fit supersedes skill when building a team. There was also a tangible reason to bring prospective players in for a visit: medical examination. In 2020, Golladay missed Weeks 2 and 3 with a hamstring injury and the final nine games with a hip flexor strain. "Well, you bring him in because you want to get a physical on him," Gettleman said. "That was the biggest reason, get a physical on him. But it was nice for a change to get to know a guy and have that opportunity to do that. Like I said, it was like the old days. The biggest reason was the physical." Meanwhile, a medical check of Kyle Rudolph, who signed with the Giants after a decade in Minnesota, revealed the need for the two-time Pro Bowl tight end to undergo a procedure to repair a foot injury stemming from last season. Despite the discovery coming after he had agreed to terms, the Giants felt confident to follow through with the signing. "Once he went through all the medical evaluations, we didn't think that it was necessary [to adjust the contract]," Abrams said. "We are the Giants, we're going to do everything with class," Gettleman said. "We had an agreement, [head athletic trainer] Ronnie [Barnes] signed off on it, [head team physician] Doc [Scott] Rodeo signed off on it, so we were fine." While people like to count the dollars spent, how does the front office quantify how much they improved in free agency? "From my opinion, and I think Dave would agree, I think our roster is a lot better now than it was at the end of the season," Abrams said. "And the offseason is not over yet, so we'll still have more opportunities to add players. So, I think we feel good with what we've done. I think we're a deeper, more talented team." "You know, you can't quantify it," Gettleman said. "It's not going to be quantified until the fall and we start playing in September. But we feel very good about what we've done, we feel very good about the direction the team is taking with getting Kenny signed and Kyle Rudolph and Devontae Booker and Adoree' Jackson and Leo. We feel really great about that and we really feel we're building a solid football team that the fans can be proud of." And they're not done yet. The Giants hold six picks in next week's draft, starting with the No. 11 overall selection. We get to read this article while knowing the outcome. Makes a big difference. I didnt see these talented players being injured all the time. I didnt see Jones being hurt and not taking steps forward. I didt see Judge falling flat in his face. Lots of things went wrong that I didnt see coming. Maybe I just suck at evaluating NFL staff and rosters. The only thing I thought was really terrible was then not drafting one single effing OL. Either way they are where they are. Now its up to Schoen and Daboll. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 2, 2022 18:05:06 GMT -5
www.giants.com/news/dave-gettleman-kevin-abrams-2021-nfl-free-agency-draft-kenny-golladay They whole organization is lost. Read the link please. Try not to vomit at quotes from all. (link doesn’t work of course) NFL free agency has evolved into a mix of blind dates and musical chairs. Teams often commit millions of dollars to players without meeting face to face – a practice conducted even before the pandemic – at the risk of being the last one standing. The Giants, however, did it differently this year. Their relatively long courtship of free agents like Kenny Golladay, regarded as the top wide receiver on the market, was well-documented as they wined, dined, and ultimately signed. "We had them in here and it was an old-school free agency," general manager Dave Gettleman said Tuesday. "We got to talk, a chance to visit with them, they went out to dinner with various people in the organization, they were here a couple of nights, our doctors were able to put their hands on them. It was an old-fashioned free agency." "It wasn't just our decision, the players wanted to come in as well," vice president of football operations and assistant general manager Kevin Abrams said. "Both parties wanted to have the visit." GM Dave Gettleman, Asst. GM Kevin Abrams recap offseason moves The result was a free-agent class that surprised everyone but the people in the building. "We got a pretty good understanding of what they're about and that, to me, was a big advantage," team president and chief executive officer John Mara said a few weeks ago when the dust settled after the first wave of free agency. "It's much more difficult to do this when you can't get the guys in the building and you have to make a commitment to a large amount of money without getting a chance to eye them up and talk to them and get a feel for them. I was happy that we were able to do that this year. It made it easier to give the final okay to say, 'Yeah, go ahead, get the thing signed.'" Mara described the approach as "thorough" in the recruiting cycle, stemming from the philosophy that fit supersedes skill when building a team. There was also a tangible reason to bring prospective players in for a visit: medical examination. In 2020, Golladay missed Weeks 2 and 3 with a hamstring injury and the final nine games with a hip flexor strain. "Well, you bring him in because you want to get a physical on him," Gettleman said. "That was the biggest reason, get a physical on him. But it was nice for a change to get to know a guy and have that opportunity to do that. Like I said, it was like the old days. The biggest reason was the physical." Meanwhile, a medical check of Kyle Rudolph, who signed with the Giants after a decade in Minnesota, revealed the need for the two-time Pro Bowl tight end to undergo a procedure to repair a foot injury stemming from last season. Despite the discovery coming after he had agreed to terms, the Giants felt confident to follow through with the signing. "Once he went through all the medical evaluations, we didn't think that it was necessary [to adjust the contract]," Abrams said. "We are the Giants, we're going to do everything with class," Gettleman said. "We had an agreement, [head athletic trainer] Ronnie [Barnes] signed off on it, [head team physician] Doc [Scott] Rodeo signed off on it, so we were fine." While people like to count the dollars spent, how does the front office quantify how much they improved in free agency? "From my opinion, and I think Dave would agree, I think our roster is a lot better now than it was at the end of the season," Abrams said. "And the offseason is not over yet, so we'll still have more opportunities to add players. So, I think we feel good with what we've done. I think we're a deeper, more talented team." "You know, you can't quantify it," Gettleman said. "It's not going to be quantified until the fall and we start playing in September. But we feel very good about what we've done, we feel very good about the direction the team is taking with getting Kenny signed and Kyle Rudolph and Devontae Booker and Adoree' Jackson and Leo. We feel really great about that and we really feel we're building a solid football team that the fans can be proud of." And they're not done yet. The Giants hold six picks in next week's draft, starting with the No. 11 overall selection. . I didnt see these talented players being injured all the time. I didnt see Jones being hurt and not taking steps forward. I didt see Judge falling flat in his face. Lots of things went wrong that I didnt see coming. Maybe I just suck at evaluating NFL staff and rosters. The only thing I thought was really terrible was then not drafting one single effing OL. Either way they are where they are. Now its up to Schoen and Daboll. Oh isn’t that convenient? History indicates the foresight. Not everybody was doing cartwheels last offseason although some were thrilled. Remember? A few jumped ship by halftime of opening day. |
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Post by Martin on Feb 2, 2022 18:16:23 GMT -5
We get to read this article while knowing the outcome. Makes a big difference. I didnt see these talented players being injured all the time. I didnt see Jones being hurt and not taking steps forward. I didt see Judge falling flat in his face. Lots of things went wrong that I didnt see coming. Maybe I just suck at evaluating NFL staff and rosters. The only thing I thought was really terrible was then not drafting one single effing OL. Either way they are where they are. Now its up to Schoen and Daboll. Oh isn’t that convenient? History indicates the foresight. Not everybody was doing cartwheels last offseason although some were thrilled. Remember? A few jumped ship by halftime of opening day. If your point is that this is an inept team and organization well then bravo! You arrived. How about those Ranger last night!! They played very well! Forget the Giants as it's only heartburn.  |
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 2, 2022 18:38:37 GMT -5
Oh isn’t that convenient? History indicates the foresight. Not everybody was doing cartwheels last offseason although some were thrilled. Remember? A few jumped ship by halftime of opening day. If your point is that this is an inept team and organization well then bravo! You arrived. How about those Ranger last night!! They played very well! Forget the Giants as it's only heartburn.  The point changed based on the response, Point is the foresight predicted it. Others apparently arrived. Bravo. Rangers, getting there. Imo, they’re a notch below the Panthers of last season. I’ll take it though. |
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Post by Martin on Feb 2, 2022 19:26:33 GMT -5
If your point is that this is an inept team and organization well then bravo! You arrived. How about those Ranger last night!! They played very well! Forget the Giants as it's only heartburn. The point changed based on the response, Point is the foresight predicted it. Others apparently arrived. Bravo. Rangers, getting there. Imo, they’re a notch below the Panthers of last season. I’ll take it though. I've been bitching about the management of this team and its inept evaluation of talent for a good 7 years. Its nauseating as to where this team is. Anyway if the Rangers come out solid in the 1st period they can play with anyone. They also have the ability to bounce back which is a great sign. Consistency needs to be there. They now play physical hockey and the ability to score. Coach G has given them his personality. Toughness! |
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Post by GameTime on Feb 2, 2022 19:49:18 GMT -5
We get to read this article while knowing the outcome. Makes a big difference. I didnt see these talented players being injured all the time. I didnt see Jones being hurt and not taking steps forward. I didt see Judge falling flat in his face. Lots of things went wrong that I didnt see coming. Maybe I just suck at evaluating NFL staff and rosters. The only thing I thought was really terrible was then not drafting one single effing OL. Either way they are where they are. Now its up to Schoen and Daboll. Oh isn’t that convenient? History indicates the foresight. Not everybody was doing cartwheels last offseason although some were thrilled. Remember? A few jumped ship by halftime of opening day. ease up bro......I am just giving my view. There were plenty of fans, for example, who hated the Jones pick from the get go, didnt like DG, of the Judge hire etc. Myself i didnt know Jones but had hope, same with Judge. This team has sapped my optimism. I no longer will get excited until I see significant wins. For an organization like the NYGs who have had failure after failure its easy to find the bad stuff. I hate using hindsight which is why I said I was down with most of the picks and hires. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 2, 2022 20:33:40 GMT -5
Oh isn’t that convenient? History indicates the foresight. Not everybody was doing cartwheels last offseason although some were thrilled. Remember? A few jumped ship by halftime of opening day. ease up bro......I am just giving my view. There were plenty of fans, for example, who hated the Jones pick from the get go, didnt like DG, of the Judge hire etc. Myself i didnt know Jones but had hope, same with Judge. This team has sapped my optimism. I no longer will get excited until I see significant wins. For an organization like the NYGs who have had failure after failure its easy to find the bad stuff. I hate using hindsight which is why I said I was down with most of the picks and hires. the article is based on last offseason free agents from Giants.com |
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Post by GameTime on Feb 3, 2022 7:56:54 GMT -5
ease up bro......I am just giving my view. There were plenty of fans, for example, who hated the Jones pick from the get go, didnt like DG, of the Judge hire etc. Myself i didnt know Jones but had hope, same with Judge. This team has sapped my optimism. I no longer will get excited until I see significant wins. For an organization like the NYGs who have had failure after failure its easy to find the bad stuff. I hate using hindsight which is why I said I was down with most of the picks and hires. the article is based on last offseason free agents from Giants.com I know....maybe I wasnt understanding your point of view. If thats the case then thats on me. In a nutshell I was didnt expect the shitty season that transpired. I expected Judge, Jones and the rest of the team and staff take steps forward. Although the biggest issue for me is that they took zero OL in the draft. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 3, 2022 8:19:42 GMT -5
the article is based on last offseason free agents from Giants.com I know....maybe I wasnt understanding your point of view. If thats the case then thats on me. In a nutshell I was didnt expect the shitty season that transpired. I expected Judge, Jones and the rest of the team and staff take steps forward. Although the biggest issue for me is that they took zero OL in the draft. All good. Ty |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 4, 2022 21:02:30 GMT -5
the article is based on last offseason free agents from Giants.com I know....maybe I wasnt understanding your point of view. If thats the case then thats on me. In a nutshell I was didnt expect the shitty season that transpired. I expected Judge, Jones and the rest of the team and staff take steps forward. Although the biggest issue for me is that they took zero OL in the draft. No matter who liked or who didn't like Judge I think that "that zero OL in the draft" had every single one of us scratching our heads. Everybody had an issue except the Giant Brain Trust. |
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Post by GameTime on Feb 4, 2022 21:12:19 GMT -5
I know....maybe I wasnt understanding your point of view. If thats the case then thats on me. In a nutshell I was didnt expect the shitty season that transpired. I expected Judge, Jones and the rest of the team and staff take steps forward. Although the biggest issue for me is that they took zero OL in the draft. No matter who liked or who didn't like Judge I think that "that zero OL in the draft" had every single one of us scratching our heads. Everybody had an issue except the Giant Brain Trust. they used the "value" of picks at the specific draft spots. I get that but very dumb not to take at least one. Just this fans point of view |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 4, 2022 21:15:14 GMT -5
No matter who liked or who didn't like Judge I think that "that zero OL in the draft" had every single one of us scratching our heads. Everybody had an issue except the Giant Brain Trust. they used the "value" of picks at the specific draft spots. I get that but very dumb not to take at least one. Just this fans point of view Your not alone, believe me. And that value of picks crap is a way of covering teams ass when they screw up. Maybe they should have revalued some of their picks. |
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