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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 9:37:06 GMT -5
That would get us back a 3rd in 2023 He'll either stay a Giant or get released. His contract prevents his trade. His contract prevents release before the end of the season. It doesn't prevent a trade. His base is only 13million; which isn't a lot for a team with the space and the need at WR. The hard part will be convincing them that KG is still a WR.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 9:43:32 GMT -5
He'll either stay a Giant or get released. His contract prevents his trade. His contract prevents release before the end of the season. It doesn't prevent a trade. His base is only 13million; which isn't a lot for a team with the space and the need at WR. The hard part will be convincing them that KG is still a WR. ONLY $13MM?
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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 9:46:27 GMT -5
His contract prevents release before the end of the season. It doesn't prevent a trade. His base is only 13million; which isn't a lot for a team with the space and the need at WR. The hard part will be convincing them that KG is still a WR. ONLY $13MM? For one year with zero commitment to him, that isn't much for a team with space and need. Provided they think KG is a quality WR. Right now that is dubious at best.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 10:00:20 GMT -5
For one year with zero commitment to him, that isn't much for a team with space and need. Provided they think KG is a quality WR. Right now that is dubious at best. Even if he does have a big turnaround year.....that's WAY too much money. No one is paying him that much...(unless Dave gets another GM job)
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 31, 2022 10:13:33 GMT -5
What’s a “big season” for KG at this point? I guess it depends on the players around him, especially the quality of play at QB. But I would suggest he would be our leading receiver and maybe catch around 70 balls for 900-1100 yards. From your lips ....
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 10:14:52 GMT -5
I guess it depends on the players around him, especially the quality of play at QB. But I would suggest he would be our leading receiver and maybe catch around 70 balls for 900-1100 yards. From your lips .... I do admit it's a "tad" optimistic. But hey......it's August.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 31, 2022 10:17:07 GMT -5
For one year with zero commitment to him, that isn't much for a team with space and need. Provided they think KG is a quality WR. Right now that is dubious at best. Even if he does have a big turnaround year.....that's WAY too much money. No one is paying him that much...(unless Dave gets another GM job) There are at least 4 teams every year that are this dumb to do things like this. Let's not act like we were the only retarded front office the past 4 years.. Trent Baalke still gets jobs
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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 10:33:33 GMT -5
For one year with zero commitment to him, that isn't much for a team with space and need. Provided they think KG is a quality WR. Right now that is dubious at best. Even if he does have a big turnaround year.....that's WAY too much money. No one is paying him that much...(unless Dave gets another GM job) I guess you haven't seen the money thrown around at WRs lately. It isn't a lot for a good WR. It is a lot for KG. So the first step in trading him is convincing someone he is a good WR. If you can manage that, trading him will be easy. Unfortunately; I don't think he even qualifies as a WR anymore. So trading him would be impossible. We need to find something useful for him to do. Punt, maybe? Since he isn't going anywhere, let him work as the holder so Gano has consistency in case we are swapping out punters a few times this year? IDK, need to come up with something, because WR just isn't his thing anymore.
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Post by imgrate on Aug 31, 2022 10:43:01 GMT -5
Oh hay someone’s been reading my posts Another lessened learn since you are wrong again.. Just had to crush my ego, eh
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Post by imgrate on Aug 31, 2022 10:49:26 GMT -5
Just had to crush my ego, eh I don't know a thing about you or your ego. I just find you have trouble following these threads and are wrong a lot.. Well now I know you’re crazy, I’m always right
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 10:58:05 GMT -5
GMs are not dumb. Nobody is taking KG in a trade this year or next based on contract, age, and production. They know he will be released in 2023. Ask yourself if we could trade for KG next season at $14 mill in 2023 and potentially another 14 mill in 2024 would you?
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:01:00 GMT -5
Even if he does have a big turnaround year.....that's WAY too much money. No one is paying him that much...(unless Dave gets another GM job) I guess you haven't seen the money thrown around at WRs lately. It isn't a lot for a good WR. It is a lot for KG. So the first step in trading him is convincing someone he is a good WR. If you can manage that, trading him will be easy. Unfortunately; I don't think he even qualifies as a WR anymore. So trading him would be impossible. We need to find something useful for him to do. Punt, maybe? Since he isn't going anywhere, let him work as the holder so Gano has consistency in case we are swapping out punters a few times this year? IDK, need to come up with something, because WR just isn't his thing anymore. Would you trade for 30-31 year old KG who will have 2 years around $14 mill salary a year left on his contract? I suspect the answer is no so why would a GM who could just wait for him to be released? KG will be 29 in a couple of months. He is not going to be getting any faster.
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 31, 2022 11:04:26 GMT -5
GMs are not dumb. Nobody is taking KG in a trade this year or next based on contract, age, and production. They know he will be released in 2023. Ask yourself if we could trade for KG next season at $14 mill in 2023 and potentially another 14 mill in 2024 would you? Dave Gettleman said hold my roldex..
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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 11:06:45 GMT -5
I guess you haven't seen the money thrown around at WRs lately. It isn't a lot for a good WR. It is a lot for KG. So the first step in trading him is convincing someone he is a good WR. If you can manage that, trading him will be easy. Unfortunately; I don't think he even qualifies as a WR anymore. So trading him would be impossible. We need to find something useful for him to do. Punt, maybe? Since he isn't going anywhere, let him work as the holder so Gano has consistency in case we are swapping out punters a few times this year? IDK, need to come up with something, because WR just isn't his thing anymore. Would you trade for 30-31 year old KG who will have 2 years around $14 mill salary a year left on his contract? I suspect the answer is no so why would a GM who could just wait for him to be released? KG will be 29 in a couple of months. He is not going to be getting any faster. I think both you and MS are missing the point. KG's age and salary are not what is preventing them from trading him. KG being terrible is what is preventing them from trading him. If he was good, trading him would be easy. Neither his age, nor his base salary this year would be a problem. No, I don't think I would trade a jelly doughnut for KG; way too much to give up for that talent and the salary that comes with it. But understand that it is his play that makes his salary a problem.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:08:16 GMT -5
GMs are not dumb. Nobody is taking KG in a trade this year or next based on contract, age, and production. They know he will be released in 2023. Ask yourself if we could trade for KG next season at $14 mill in 2023 and potentially another 14 mill in 2024 would you? Dave Gettleman said hold my roldex.. LOL you just ruined my good point!
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:09:52 GMT -5
Would you trade for 30-31 year old KG who will have 2 years around $14 mill salary a year left on his contract? I suspect the answer is no so why would a GM who could just wait for him to be released? KG will be 29 in a couple of months. He is not going to be getting any faster. I think both you and MS are missing the point. KG's age and salary are not what is preventing them from trading him. KG being terrible is what is preventing them from trading him. If he was good, trading him would be easy. Neither his age, nor his base salary this year would be a problem. No, I don't think I would trade a jelly doughnut for KG; way too much to give up for that talent and the salary that comes with it. But understand that it is his play that makes his salary a problem. You are 100% right that his play is the biggest issue right now but I do think his contract and age (speed) are also large issues. Look at how fast Julio Jones went from untouchable to unwanted.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 11:14:27 GMT -5
Even if he does have a big turnaround year.....that's WAY too much money. No one is paying him that much...(unless Dave gets another GM job) I guess you haven't seen the money thrown around at WRs lately. It isn't a lot for a good WR. It is a lot for KG. So the first step in trading him is convincing someone he is a good WR. If you can manage that, trading him will be easy. Unfortunately; I don't think he even qualifies as a WR anymore. So trading him would be impossible. We need to find something useful for him to do. Punt, maybe? Since he isn't going anywhere, let him work as the holder so Gano has consistency in case we are swapping out punters a few times this year? IDK, need to come up with something, because WR just isn't his thing anymore. If you agree that it's too much money for KG, why are you arguing with me?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 11:17:15 GMT -5
Oh hay someone’s been reading my posts Another lessened learn since you are wrong again.. First rule of telling people how wrong they are....spell words right and use them in the correct context. What the heck is "lessened learn?" The learning is waining somehow? Oh you mean "lesson learned"
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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 11:20:25 GMT -5
I guess you haven't seen the money thrown around at WRs lately. It isn't a lot for a good WR. It is a lot for KG. So the first step in trading him is convincing someone he is a good WR. If you can manage that, trading him will be easy. Unfortunately; I don't think he even qualifies as a WR anymore. So trading him would be impossible. We need to find something useful for him to do. Punt, maybe? Since he isn't going anywhere, let him work as the holder so Gano has consistency in case we are swapping out punters a few times this year? IDK, need to come up with something, because WR just isn't his thing anymore. If you agree that it's too much money for KG, why are you arguing with me? I wasn't. Just saying that the money isn't the problem; KG is the problem.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:22:08 GMT -5
Another lessened learn since you are wrong again.. First rule of telling people how wrong they are....spell words right and use them in the correct context. What the heck is "lessened learn?" The learning is waining somehow? Oh you mean "lesson learned" Ouch. That burned
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 11:26:03 GMT -5
First rule of telling people how wrong they are....spell words right and use them in the correct context. What the heck is "lessened learn?" The learning is waining somehow? Oh you mean "lesson learned" Ouch. That burned With made up words like Waining?? Hardly
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 11:28:24 GMT -5
Ouch. That burned With made up words like Waining?? Hardly Ha....Fair point. but come on....Lessened learn?
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Post by imgrate on Aug 31, 2022 11:29:23 GMT -5
Another lessened learn since you are wrong again.. First rule of telling people how wrong they are....spell words right and use them in the correct context. What the heck is "lessened learn?" The learning is waining somehow? Oh you mean "lesson learned" I thought the funnier part was that - his first post suggests that I am wrong about him reading my posts, and then in his second post alludes to how I am wrong in a bunch of threads…. So, wouldn’t he have had to have read my posts in order to come to that conclusion?
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Post by GameTime on Aug 31, 2022 11:29:51 GMT -5
With made up words like Waining?? Hardly Ha....Fair point. have to always proof read an extra time or two when posting certain messages..
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 11:31:06 GMT -5
have to always proof read an extra time or two when posting certain messages.. Well I'm a mod so I can go back and fix everything but I'll let it lie.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:32:26 GMT -5
Ouch. That burned With made up words like Waining?? Hardly Well "waning" is a word.
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Post by jmike on Aug 31, 2022 11:33:42 GMT -5
have to always proof read an extra time or two when posting certain messages.. Well I'm a mod so I can go back and fix everything but I'll let it lie. See now I thought you misspelled it on purpose, for the laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 11:34:35 GMT -5
With made up words like Waining?? Hardly Well "waning" is a word. My words were real words that I just used poorly. He got a warning that his word was fake but still used it to bash on me.. Get it now young man??
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 31, 2022 11:34:45 GMT -5
have to always proof read an extra time or two when posting certain messages.. Well I'm a mod so I can go back and fix everything but I'll let it lie. I used to be a mod on 3 boards. Almost killed me lol.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 31, 2022 11:35:27 GMT -5
Well I'm a mod so I can go back and fix everything but I'll let it lie. See now I thought you misspelled it on purpose, for the laugh. Umm.....Yeah let's go with that.
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