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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 2, 2023 21:37:55 GMT -5
We can't endure another year of this.
Take our losses this season.
End this please.
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 2, 2023 21:45:13 GMT -5
We can't endure another year of this. Take our losses this season. End this please. Even with a rookie QB, Jones is a $49 million cap hit next year. Can't make this shit up! |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 2, 2023 21:51:14 GMT -5
We can't endure another year of this. Take our losses this season. End this please. Even with a rookie QB, Jones is a $49 million cap hit next year. Can't make this shit up! Doesn't matter. You take the cap hit, let him play a year ahead of Williams and get the shit kicked out of him by another year of a trash O line. Then he comes off the books, put all your money into the best linemen you can find and let Williams do work. This team is worse than anything Gettleman ever did. Joe Schoen is a complete joke. |
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 2, 2023 21:51:34 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line.
I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game.
Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Oct 2, 2023 21:52:26 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. No one wants him dude How many teams paying him $40MM a year? For what? |
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Post by fishinthesalt on Oct 2, 2023 21:54:53 GMT -5
I don't think we have to tank. This is probably the easiest game on our schedule...
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Post by SG88 on Oct 2, 2023 21:55:19 GMT -5
Lmfao
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Post by giantbob71 on Oct 2, 2023 21:57:13 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. Jones traded? LOL! This is the only organization dumb enough to pay DJ to be average, at best. The Giants would have to pick up $75-80 million, or more, of his guaranteed $94 million over 2 years to trade him. |
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Post by kingb50 on Oct 2, 2023 21:58:06 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. You haven't seen enough? 3 pts with 9 minutes in the 4th... |
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Post by Modog on Oct 2, 2023 22:03:21 GMT -5
Haha you must be a new Giants fan. Maras will never draft a black QB. They much rather draft another guy that looks like Eli Manning (without playing like him)
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Post by ncgiantsfan on Oct 2, 2023 22:03:59 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. You haven't seen enough? 3 pts with 9 minutes in the 4th... You're arguing with a guy who has DJones as a screen name. Lol. |
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 2, 2023 22:06:13 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. You haven't seen enough? 3 pts with 9 minutes in the 4th... I'll take a look at Caleb for sure considering the way the season is going. Haven't watched him play yet. If he's that good and we can pick him, might as well, just think we are at least 2 years away from being good either way. |
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Post by kingb50 on Oct 2, 2023 22:07:29 GMT -5
You haven't seen enough? 3 pts with 9 minutes in the 4th... You're arguing with a guy who has DJones as a screen name. Lol. Not even arguing, just wondering where your loyalty lies.. |
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Post by jaymas on Oct 2, 2023 22:38:31 GMT -5
Gonna be a long season.
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Post by lasion2 on Oct 2, 2023 22:57:16 GMT -5
We can't endure another year of this. Take our losses this season. End this please. I’m a Mets fan. I can endure a lot. I don’t want to tank, I’ll never support a team that does. But, I’m ok with Tommy Devito starting from here on out. |
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 2, 2023 23:07:06 GMT -5
Dabs isn’t tanking.
The DJ disappointment is going to turn into Dabs disappointment really really soon.
I get it if we’re 1-3 and losing close games. The ball is pointy and bounces funny sometimes.
But we’re arguably the worst team in the NFL right now, at least part of the conversation.
You’re not tanking for a rookie QB with the rest of your offence looking like it should be scrapped off the bottom of your shoe.
You’re not a decent QB away from being average.
That’s super hero syndrome. No QB is saving this team. All we know is the one we have isn’t the long term solution for us.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 2, 2023 23:30:25 GMT -5
Dabs isn’t tanking. The DJ disappointment is going to turn into Dabs disappointment really really soon. I get it if we’re 1-3 and losing close games. The ball is pointy and bounces funny sometimes. But we’re arguably the worst team in the NFL right now, at least part of the conversation. You’re not tanking for a rookie QB with the rest of your offence looking like it should be scrapped off the bottom of your shoe. You’re not a decent QB away from being average. That’s super hero syndrome. No QB is saving this team. All we know is the one we have isn’t the long term solution for us. I'm not arguing that Caleb Williams with this exact team would make us competitive. What I am arguing for is a generational college talent who happens to be coming out at the exact time we are looking like the worse team in football. If you told me we'd draft Williams this year, and let Jones play out his absurd contract next season while he remained behind this abomination of an offensive line then I'm all for it. Then when we finally kick Jones out, we'll have $60mm to find actual veteran offensive lineman to protect our now young prodigious QB. That's the dream to keep me sane during this nightmare of a time as a Giants fan. |
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 2, 2023 23:49:48 GMT -5
Dabs isn’t tanking. The DJ disappointment is going to turn into Dabs disappointment really really soon. I get it if we’re 1-3 and losing close games. The ball is pointy and bounces funny sometimes. But we’re arguably the worst team in the NFL right now, at least part of the conversation. You’re not tanking for a rookie QB with the rest of your offence looking like it should be scrapped off the bottom of your shoe. You’re not a decent QB away from being average. That’s super hero syndrome. No QB is saving this team. All we know is the one we have isn’t the long term solution for us. I'm not arguing that Caleb Williams with this exact team would make us competitive. What I am arguing for is a generational college talent who happens to be coming out at the exact time we are looking like the worse team in football. If you told me we'd draft Williams this year, and let Jones play out his absurd contract next season while he remained behind this abomination of an offensive line then I'm all for it. Then when we finally kick Jones out, we'll have $60mm to find actual veteran offensive lineman to protect our now young prodigious QB. That's the dream to keep me sane during this nightmare of a time as a Giants fan. I’m saying Dabs won’t be tanking for draft position. His job is officially in play now. We know now that while the Giants were making the playoffs McAdoo was already losing his locker room. I love Dabs and Schoen, but they certainly look like they’re losing control of this situation. This o line is all his. The receiving targets are all his. The coaches for the o line are all his. If he can’t coach up this o line to be at least “not embarrassing” with the pieces he chose, he shouldn’t be given the opportunity to try and spend his way out of a clear coaching and talent evaluation issue. |
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 3, 2023 5:45:32 GMT -5
during my time as an NFL fan I've seen lots of teams rebuild the O line in one offseason and look light years ahead of the line we have now, so what is it that is holding the Giants back from accomplishing this, just wondering....
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Post by hadenough on Oct 3, 2023 5:56:12 GMT -5
during my time as an NFL fan I've seen lots of teams rebuild the O line in one offseason and look light years ahead of the line we have now, so what is it that is holding the Giants back from accomplishing this, just wondering.... It has to be the scouting department. Up until this past offseason…they’ve had similar scouts with the organization for a long time. They must just look at players the same way without ever changing how they view things based off performance. It’s the only thing that can be possible. Every year the players are different, but they play the same. The only possible answer is the same people keep identifying the same type of player. And a Mara has been high ranking in the scouting department for a long time |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 5:57:26 GMT -5
No Tanks, just a magic wand.
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Post by southerner on Oct 3, 2023 8:22:30 GMT -5
Oh this nightmare could have a good ending if the Giants get the 1st pick…..CALEB WILLIAMS, and they would jump on it immediately.
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Post by southerner on Oct 3, 2023 8:32:11 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. Nobody will trade for him with his contract……the Giants can get out after next season and they will……they will cut him and then a team that needs a backup will sign him for backup money. |
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Post by shocknaweny on Oct 3, 2023 8:36:05 GMT -5
We can't endure another year of this. Take our losses this season. End this please. I am here for this |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 3, 2023 8:40:54 GMT -5
I love this absurdity.
Explain “how to tank.”
Thanks.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 3, 2023 8:42:37 GMT -5
I'm sure Caleb would be amazing behind this line. I'd honestly love to see Jones get traded, tired of seeing him get hit 20 times a game. Sign a veteran QB and rebuild the oline. Yes. There are tons of teams lining up to pay a mediocre QB lots of money while the Giants eat $70-81M in dead cap. Makes sense. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 3, 2023 8:44:04 GMT -5
Haha you must be a new Giants fan. Maras will never draft a black QB. They much rather draft another guy that looks like Eli Manning (without playing like him) Well this is dripping with dumb. |
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Post by Modog on Oct 3, 2023 8:48:53 GMT -5
Haha you must be a new Giants fan. Maras will never draft a black QB. They much rather draft another guy that looks like Eli Manning (without playing like him) Well this is dripping with dumb. For reference I'm not black. Are you aware the Giants are the last team to start a black QB? It was Geno Smith in 2018. Ownership is against drafting black QBs or even white QBs with too much baggage.. they much rather have a Qb that looks like he would be an accountant. |
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Post by ratbastich on Oct 3, 2023 8:50:00 GMT -5
I don't think we have to tank. This is probably the easiest game on our schedule... Have to say I agree, unfortunately. Tanking is the act of trying to lose. There is no effort in our losing. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Oct 3, 2023 8:50:16 GMT -5
Well this is dripping with dumb. For reference I'm not black. Are you aware the Giants are the last team to start a black QB? It was Geno Smith in 2018. Ownership is against drafting black QBs or even white QBs with too much baggage.. they much rather have a Qb that looks like he would be an accountant. And sprinkle on some stupidity. |
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