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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 7, 2023 10:54:59 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado.
Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either?
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 7, 2023 14:54:24 GMT -5
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Caleb's dad doesn't want his son playing for a bad franchise because he always got to choose the team he got to play for. He reached out to Archie Manning and others about what to do and is threatening to stay out of the draft saying he can make more $$$ playing college ball. He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career.
He called the draft process "backwards...and better to sit out than be a #1 pick"...so I'm doubtful about Celeb.
Both QBs look good, Celeb has more mobility...Maye looks like a pocket passer though...wouldn't want to see him get David Carr'ed or Jones'ed.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 7, 2023 19:46:33 GMT -5
Either if the Giants are in position to get a QB.
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 7, 2023 19:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 7, 2023 20:04:01 GMT -5
those scouts were watching many players 👍
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Post by imgrate on Oct 8, 2023 17:51:18 GMT -5
Marvin Harrison Jr. Caleb's dad doesn't want his son playing for a bad franchise because he always got to choose the team he got to play for. He reached out to Archie Manning and others about what to do and is threatening to stay out of the draft saying he can make more $$$ playing college ball. He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career. He called the draft process "backwards...and better to sit out than be a #1 pick"...so I'm doubtful about Celeb. Both QBs look good, Celeb has more mobility...Maye looks like a pocket passer though...wouldn't want to see him get David Carr'ed or Jones'ed. Last time a QB did that, it worked out pretty well for us.
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Post by Nite on Oct 8, 2023 21:52:13 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado. Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either? There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 8, 2023 21:57:13 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado. Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either? There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round nice nice I'm on board bro................
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Post by wtfjjk on Oct 9, 2023 8:48:46 GMT -5
Come April, I'm hoping there are three top tier QBs so we can land one even if we start winning some games or if we lose tiebreakers. We're going to drop below teams with same records due to SOS.
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Post by BlueReign on Oct 9, 2023 12:28:22 GMT -5
If you can't get Maye or Williams, build the trenches.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 12, 2023 16:21:11 GMT -5
Marvin Harrison Jr. Caleb's dad doesn't want his son playing for a bad franchise because he always got to choose the team he got to play for. He reached out to Archie Manning and others about what to do and is threatening to stay out of the draft saying he can make more $$$ playing college ball. He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career. He called the draft process "backwards...and better to sit out than be a #1 pick"...so I'm doubtful about Celeb. Both QBs look good, Celeb has more mobility...Maye looks like a pocket passer though...wouldn't want to see him get David Carr'ed or Jones'ed. Last time a QB did that, it worked out pretty well for us. Yes, but the league would be out of business in no time if every player could do this. I'm not even sure how the Mannings got away with that, back then.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2023 7:34:59 GMT -5
If you can't get Maye or Williams, build the trenches. e well if we can't get one of the other ones who might be better anyway lol, yeah i don't care if we take 4 offensive lineman back to back to back to back lmfao............
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2023 7:36:56 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado. Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either? There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round didn't NIx and Penix go head to head yesterday? How did each fare?
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2023 8:29:38 GMT -5
Off Bo Nix after yesterday.
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Post by Nite on Oct 15, 2023 9:10:37 GMT -5
There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round didn't NIx and Penix go head to head yesterday? How did each fare? Both did quite well. Ether/or would be good choice. Penix had 4 TDs while Nix had 3. Penix has a bad injury history which would make me hesitant on pulling the trigger. Nix got rattled slightly late in the game went conservative but still had a very good game. You have to look at a body of work to evaluate though
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2023 9:38:05 GMT -5
didn't NIx and Penix go head to head yesterday? How did each fare? Both did quite well. Ether/or would be good choice. Penix had 4 TDs while Nix had 3. Penix has a bad injury history which would make me hesitant on pulling the trigger. Nix got rattled slightly late in the game went conservative but still had a very good game. You have to look at a body of work to evaluate though ohh gotcha. Yeah I really don't watch much college ball overall and just try and do my research on players
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Post by giants8493 on Oct 15, 2023 20:01:46 GMT -5
Marvin Harrison Jr. Caleb's dad doesn't want his son playing for a bad franchise because he always got to choose the team he got to play for. He reached out to Archie Manning and others about what to do and is threatening to stay out of the draft saying he can make more $$$ playing college ball. He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career. He called the draft process "backwards...and better to sit out than be a #1 pick"...so I'm doubtful about Celeb. Both QBs look good, Celeb has more mobility...Maye looks like a pocket passer though...wouldn't want to see him get David Carr'ed or Jones'ed. I thought once you declare for the draft I thought you were no longer eligible for college. It's not a John elway, Jim Kelly or Kyler Murray situation where he could play MLB or usfl. Nfl is undisputed King of money in pro football Williams or not an MLB prospect to my knowledge at least.
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Post by giants8493 on Oct 15, 2023 20:04:24 GMT -5
Marvin Harrison Jr. Caleb's dad doesn't want his son playing for a bad franchise because he always got to choose the team he got to play for. He reached out to Archie Manning and others about what to do and is threatening to stay out of the draft saying he can make more $$$ playing college ball. He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career. He called the draft process "backwards...and better to sit out than be a #1 pick"...so I'm doubtful about Celeb. Both QBs look good, Celeb has more mobility...Maye looks like a pocket passer though...wouldn't want to see him get David Carr'ed or Jones'ed. I thought once you declare for the draft I thought you were no longer eligible for college. It's not a John elway, Jim Kelly or Kyler Murray situation where he could play MLB or usfl. Nfl is undisputed King of money in pro football Williams or not an MLB prospect to my knowledge at least. But if we talking prospects I saw a report that sanders kid is starting to get hype. That would be interesting at least
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Post by Analyst on Oct 16, 2023 14:53:02 GMT -5
Caleb Williams looked like a system QB recently. Sure, it could work out, but Im starting to get off his bandwagon the more I watch. I saw Penix really for the first time this weekend. Throws a beautiful deep ball. Looks like a real QB. Maye is also one I do like. And Hartman.
Its going to be interesting...
We have a QB eating up nearly $70M of our cap next year who looks like a good backup QB.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 16, 2023 16:09:15 GMT -5
Caleb Williams looked like a system QB recently. Sure, it could work out, but Im starting to get off his bandwagon the more I watch. I saw Penix really for the first time this weekend. Throws a beautiful deep ball. Looks like a real QB. Maye is also one I do like. And Hartman. Its going to be interesting... We have a QB eating up nearly $70M of our cap next year who looks like a good backup QB. the big issue with Penix is his injury history. His play is quite nice.
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Post by imgrate on Oct 18, 2023 7:57:07 GMT -5
I’m probably going to be wrong, especially on Caleb, but for whatever reason i just don’t get that warm, fuzzy feeling that these guys are going to be great. I had that feeling for herbert, burrow, Lawrence.. just not getting it for these guys. That said, i didn’t have that feel for any on the ‘18 guys and one is a likely HoF and the other is at least a league MVP
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Post by bavarobeast on Oct 18, 2023 15:54:53 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado. Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either? Neither Maye ain’t ready and Williams looks very average this season surrounded by weapons. . Penix - Gabriel are my go too duo to consider for the Giants.
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Post by bavarobeast on Oct 18, 2023 15:56:45 GMT -5
I thought once you declare for the draft I thought you were no longer eligible for college. It's not a John elway, Jim Kelly or Kyler Murray situation where he could play MLB or usfl. Nfl is undisputed King of money in pro football Williams or not an MLB prospect to my knowledge at least. But if we talking prospects I saw a report that sanders kid is starting to get hype. That would be interesting at least I’ve watched every game Sanders has played this season. He’s impressive!
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2023 20:14:44 GMT -5
Although tempting, need to get to Dec before this becomes interesting and potentially for real.
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Post by Modog on Oct 18, 2023 21:59:50 GMT -5
I have a hard timr believing Mara will sign off on drafting Sanders. Even a consensus top pick like Caleb I feel Mara may be hesitate to draft. He wants a no nonsense clean shaven white collar type. Otherwise I will believe it when I see it.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 19, 2023 6:25:02 GMT -5
But if we talking prospects I saw a report that sanders kid is starting to get hype. That would be interesting at least I’ve watched every game Sanders has played this season. He’s impressive! I've watched some of most of their games this season and he does look good. I'd probably take him vs the field, maybe. But then again I've only seen some of the games of Williams and maybe Maye and some highlights of Penix and Nix.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 19, 2023 6:27:17 GMT -5
I have a hard timr believing Mara will sign off on drafting Sanders. Even a consensus top pick like Caleb I feel Mara may be hesitate to draft. He wants a no nonsense clean shaven white collar type. Otherwise I will believe it when I see it. THAT'S EXACTLY THE ****ING PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IF THAT HOLDS TRUE............ Keep on having to have the Eli Manning type qb's where you search for someone who eats, breathes, shits like Eli lol to the point where you pass on other guys..............
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Post by jmike on Oct 19, 2023 10:26:16 GMT -5
He think's getting drafted to the wrong organization can ruin a player's career. He's right.
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Post by jmike on Oct 19, 2023 10:30:59 GMT -5
I just watched Drake Maye highlights well some of them and only watched some of Caleb when they played Colorado. Who would you rather had if we had a chance at either? There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round What about Cam Ward?
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Post by Nite on Oct 20, 2023 16:43:38 GMT -5
There are a few more who warrant consideration; 1) Bo Nix - He is like a hybrid of Justin Herbert and Josh Allen 2) Michael Penix Jr - Best deep ball in all of FBS 3) JJ McCarthy - Game Manager type but deadly accurate and throws deep 4) Sam Hartmann - Experienced and can make all the throws Its a deep QB class where if things are trending where I think they will we will be choosing from one of these in the first round What about Cam Ward? I am not that familiar with him but I will check him out this weekend
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