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Post by nobelichickin2025 on Apr 24, 2024 20:36:52 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix
Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night
We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block.
Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time.
This regime needs their QB and they need him now.
Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy.
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Post by Modog on Apr 24, 2024 21:47:35 GMT -5
They will go QB, but I don't think it will be their 1st or 2nd preferred choice. They have to get a new face on Offense, a new identity. Saquon is gone now and we all know DJ isn't the answer
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 24, 2024 21:48:05 GMT -5
If WRs grow on trees we've been looking at the wrong type of tree
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Post by nobelichickin2025 on Apr 24, 2024 21:57:55 GMT -5
If WRs grow on trees we've been looking at the wrong type of tree No we have had the wrong QB/OL WRs can not throw themselves the ball This WR class is tremendously deep. Daniel Jones can not play. He was ruined by the Judge regime and his ability to attack was destroyed. WRs need a QB to throw them into space, see them when open, trust them in windows. We have not had a good QB in a long time.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 24, 2024 23:18:50 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block. Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time. This regime needs their QB and they need him now. Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy. Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........
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Post by nobelichickin2025 on Apr 24, 2024 23:53:51 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block. Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time. This regime needs their QB and they need him now. Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy. Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ I am referring to elite WRs available after establishing themselves as elite, they are available all the time. Higgins and Aiyuk will be on new teams withj. a year if not a month. On top of that they can be found throughout the draft. Puka, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, AJ Brown some of the most recent elites outside Round 1.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 25, 2024 5:26:57 GMT -5
Your opinion might be QB or don’t bother.
But if the rumoured price to move to 3 or 4 is correct, I hope he doesn’t bother.
In my eyes his job isn’t to take a QB at #6, it’s to make sure who he takes at #6 lives up to that draft position.
Saying he better take a QB in the 1st is just a veiled way of saying you hope he gets fired.
Just say that instead. There’s lots of people here saying it already.
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Post by Roswell on Apr 25, 2024 6:12:07 GMT -5
The more I think about the draft, the less I think they will trade up. They just need too much.
If a QB they love drops to them then they should pick him. Even over the WR. But a trade up is way too risky considering how many of these guys bust.
Losing Barkley, they have lost the face of the franchise. There’s character concerns with Nabors. So if the QB they love isn’t at 6, then Odunze or a small trade back would be wise.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 25, 2024 6:18:07 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block. Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time. This regime needs their QB and they need him now. Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy. LOL LOL LOL LMFAO............
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 25, 2024 6:20:25 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block. Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time. This regime needs their QB and they need him now. Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy. Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ bingo.......Amigo....
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 25, 2024 6:21:11 GMT -5
Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ I am referring to elite WRs available after establishing themselves as elite, they are available all the time. Higgins and Aiyuk will be on new teams withj. a year if not a month. On top of that they can be found throughout the draft. Puka, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, AJ Brown some of the most recent elites outside Round 1. you still gotta find them, the same way you'd have to find the qb.........
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 25, 2024 6:32:28 GMT -5
Your opinion might be QB or don’t bother. But if the rumoured price to move to 3 or 4 is correct, I hope he doesn’t bother. In my eyes his job isn’t to take a QB at #6, it’s to make sure who he takes at #6 lives up to that draft position. Saying he better take a QB in the 1st is just a veiled way of saying you hope he gets fired. Just say that instead. There’s lots of people here saying it already. lock in step with you on this one. My guess is that if Maye or McCarthy fall to 6 we'll take whomever that is, but I don't think either are worth the price of trading up, and personally would probably take Odunze or Nabers over either. I waffle back and forth between the 2 of them, but Nabers explosiveness is hard to overlook.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 25, 2024 6:39:38 GMT -5
Your opinion might be QB or don’t bother. But if the rumoured price to move to 3 or 4 is correct, I hope he doesn’t bother. In my eyes his job isn’t to take a QB at #6, it’s to make sure who he takes at #6 lives up to that draft position. Saying he better take a QB in the 1st is just a veiled way of saying you hope he gets fired. Just say that instead. There’s lots of people here saying it already. lock in step with you on this one. My guess is that if Maye or McCarthy fall to 6 we'll take whomever that is, but I don't think either are worth the price of trading up, and personally would probably take Odunze or Nabers over either. I waffle back and forth between the 2 of them, but Nabers explosiveness is hard to overlook. Absolutely aligned with this. I would pick JJ and sit him for a year a la Green Bay. But I think they may trade down if JJ is on the board. JS loves picks and I bet he’s already antsy that he’s only got six.
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 6:43:02 GMT -5
Your opinion might be QB or don’t bother. But if the rumoured price to move to 3 or 4 is correct, I hope he doesn’t bother. In my eyes his job isn’t to take a QB at #6, it’s to make sure who he takes at #6 lives up to that draft position. Saying he better take a QB in the 1st is just a veiled way of saying you hope he gets fired. Just say that instead. There’s lots of people here saying it already. Yup, and they're idiots.
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 6:46:30 GMT -5
Last NFL QB to win a National Championship and a Super Bowl was Joe Montana. Think about that?
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Post by robl on Apr 25, 2024 7:01:45 GMT -5
Ok I’ll just repost my mock draft here:
Round 1 JJ Macarthy Round 2 Bo Nix Round 3 Spencer Rattler Round 4 Michael Pratt Round 5 Joe Milton 3 Round 6 Sam Hartman
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 25, 2024 7:06:51 GMT -5
lock in step with you on this one. My guess is that if Maye or McCarthy fall to 6 we'll take whomever that is, but I don't think either are worth the price of trading up, and personally would probably take Odunze or Nabers over either. I waffle back and forth between the 2 of them, but Nabers explosiveness is hard to overlook. Absolutely aligned with this. I would pick JJ and sit him for a year a la Green Bay. But I think they may trade down if JJ is on the board. JS loves picks and I bet he’s already antsy that he’s only got six. depending on where we trade down to, and what we get in return, it could be very beneficial, but we could also miss out on a great player like we did with Parsons/Slater. Its all a crap shoot.
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Post by nobelichickin2025 on Apr 25, 2024 7:39:52 GMT -5
I am referring to elite WRs available after establishing themselves as elite, they are available all the time. Higgins and Aiyuk will be on new teams withj. a year if not a month. On top of that they can be found throughout the draft. Puka, Amon Ra, Nico Collins, AJ Brown some of the most recent elites outside Round 1. you still gotta find them, the same way you'd have to find the qb......... We may have already found one in Slayton, Robinson, or Hyatt. We don’t have a QB to know. Look at Nico Collins stat spike with Stroud v Davis Mills. Taking a WR at 6 is checkers. SB GMs play chess.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 25, 2024 8:25:06 GMT -5
If WRs grow on trees we've been looking at the wrong type of tree No we have had the wrong QB/OL WRs can not throw themselves the ball This WR class is tremendously deep. Daniel Jones can not play. He was ruined by the Judge regime and his ability to attack was destroyed. WRs need a QB to throw them into space, see them when open, trust them in windows. We have not had a good QB in a long time. I'm talking about franchise history too. The NYG are one of the few franchises that don't have a 10-thousand-yard receiver in franchise history - I could be wrong on this but not aware of it. I'm not counting players like Brandon Marshalll who only played here very briefly. We haven't invested much in WR after Jones was drafted. Golladay tried out for other teams but could not find a job after leaving here. Receivers productive with Jones like James have fallen off a cliff. I thought Wandale has looked good with Jones when he's been healthy. In the game he got hurt in Detroit he had 10 catches, 100 yards. This year he started out hurt and wasn't available with Jones for the most part.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 25, 2024 8:27:37 GMT -5
Having less than nothing at quarterback is a fate worse than death.. You can win with a pocket knife and a can of mace for weapons.. Hell, we put up double digits in the win column in ‘16 with a revolving door at offensive line. You won’t stand a fighters chance if you have an insignificant speck at the helm. It’s the one position on the field you can’t hide.
We’ll go as far as the position allows us to go. The time is now to fix what ails us. The days of lame excuses and pathetic reasoning is buried in a shallow grave. Building a roster starts and ends at the quarterback. And if we want to be players instead of being played. Make it happen.
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 8:45:40 GMT -5
We wrecked the career of our two time Super Bowl winning QB by not helping him and giving him the players to succeed, we have kept that practice up with Daniel Jones and the revolving door of HC's, GM's and OC's and no O line . Some think the answer is to continue that practice and draft another QB that has no protection and will get killed behind a BS line with no weapons to throw too,................., now that's stupid.
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Post by Nite on Apr 25, 2024 8:46:12 GMT -5
Herbert, Daniels Maye, McCarthy, Penix Schoen has to find his path to his guy tomorrow night We can NOT take a WR at 6. It would be total and utter incompetence. WRs grow on trees. Amon Ra was a Round 4. Aiyuk and Higgins are on the block. Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, DaVante Adams, Diggs twice, OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, AJ Brown elite WRs get moved ALL the time. This regime needs their QB and they need him now. Schoen’s job is at stake tomorrow. If he can’t get it done we hired the wrong guy. Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ How much do you want to bet on a later round lottery ticket? Exceptions don't prove the rule
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Post by mendy on Apr 25, 2024 8:50:26 GMT -5
Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ How much do you want to bet on a later round lottery ticket? Exceptions don't prove the rule At QB they're close. There are as many failure's at QB in round 1 as there are success at QB in other rounds.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 25, 2024 8:59:44 GMT -5
Draft a QB and red shirt him.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 25, 2024 9:22:33 GMT -5
Rodgers was a late 1sr rounder. Brees was a 2nd rounder. Hurts was a 2nd rounder. Purdey was the last player taken in the draft. Just sayin'........ How much do you want to bet on a later round lottery ticket? Exceptions don't prove the rule I don't. But the idea of drafting the 4th or 5th best QB prospect at #6 seems a poor choice. The only exception to me is Penix but the opportunity of getting an absolutely elite WR like Odunze or Nabers is hard to pass up.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 25, 2024 9:24:58 GMT -5
How much do you want to bet on a later round lottery ticket? Exceptions don't prove the rule I don't. But the idea of drafting the 4th or 5th best QB prospect at #6 seems a poor choice. The only exception to me is Penix but the opportunity of getting an absolutely elite WR like Odunze or Nabers is hard to pass up. well, perhaps the best QBs in 2018 were the 3rd and 5th drafted QBs. and Nabers, he already made a comment about the Giants QB situation. Wouldn’t put diva past any of these WR
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Apr 25, 2024 9:32:22 GMT -5
Draft a QB and red shirt him. I agree with this. Or play him once DJ gets hurt again. Because he will get hurt again.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 25, 2024 9:32:55 GMT -5
They will go QB, but I don't think it will be their 1st or 2nd preferred choice. They have to get a new face on Offense, a new identity. Saquon is gone now and we all know DJ isn't the answer The new identity could be the QB.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 25, 2024 9:43:47 GMT -5
We wrecked the career of our two time Super Bowl winning QB by not helping him and giving him the players to succeed, we have kept that practice up with Daniel Jones and the revolving door of HC's, GM's and OC's and no O line . Some think the answer is to continue that practice and draft another QB that has no protection and will get killed behind a BS line with no weapons to throw too,................., now that's stupid. One thing is a given - that cocky text from Jets fans I get every few years how they got "their guy" at QB. Whether it be Pennington, Sanchez, Darnold, Wilson, or Rodgers. I remember hearing on the WFAN how Pennington was the closest thing to Montana fans have seen, Sanchez was the sanchize, Darnold would rule New York for a long time, Wilson was the next Mahomes, Rodgers would transform the Jets, etc. 40 years later, they are still picking at the top of the draft. I don't want to be the Jets.
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Post by Nite on Apr 25, 2024 9:52:23 GMT -5
How much do you want to bet on a later round lottery ticket? Exceptions don't prove the rule I don't. But the idea of drafting the 4th or 5th best QB prospect at #6 seems a poor choice. The only exception to me is Penix but the opportunity of getting an absolutely elite WR like Odunze or Nabers is hard to pass up. You are overthinking this. The top 4 or 5 is still better than what we have now..Much better
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