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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 1, 2020 22:53:42 GMT -5
This Baylor team looks like utter garbage particular on offense. Keep this guy far away from the Giants. Brewer is not a very good qb. Georgia is taking their main weapon,Mims,out of the game
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Post by giantsforce on Jan 1, 2020 22:53:49 GMT -5
This Baylor team looks like utter garbage particular on offense. Keep this guy far away from the Giants. Sloppy and undisciplined against a Georgia team that half of the starters are sitting. Yeah, he will be a Shurmur 2.0 For a moment I thought I was watching the Giants play the Eagles!
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 1, 2020 22:57:12 GMT -5
This Baylor team looks like utter garbage particular on offense. Keep this guy far away from the Giants. Brewer is not a very good qb. Georgia is taking their main weapon,Mims,out of the game A good coach can adjust. He has one half to do so but they look so inept so I don't expect anything to turn this around. They did just execute a bomb but it was an insane catch and they're lucky the WR held on. No one is getting open and routes look so vanilla and not creative. TD now. We'll see if they can keep it up.
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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 1, 2020 23:03:57 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator .
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Post by giants38 on Jan 1, 2020 23:06:44 GMT -5
Your selective use of statistics with no accompanying perspective or logic is funny. Pat Shurmur had a career .297 winning percentage but you wanted to keep him. Matt Rhule is a proven CEO leader and a program builder. He has obviously never done this at the pro level, so there is certainly a risk there, but there is a risk with all of these candidates. All have risk Some less than others . This guy is off the scales with risk . CEO HC . What does that mean? Does he delegate responsibility? Is he a micro manager? Is he hands off until necessary Is saying I really don't know so I hire people that do . none of these are attributes you want in a HC. Some keep saying this new CEO HC Buzz word phrase. No one explains what it is This an HC Hands in with players and staff Has high-level knowledge of everyone's job underneath him Is willing to find a common ground with all parties to work with and communicate effectively. You know that Rhule does not have the qualities that you consider important?
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Jan 1, 2020 23:07:06 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator . Good. Xs and Os are for coordinators. We need a team leader and CEO to organize and motivate. Our attempt at specialists (on offense) as head coaches haven't yielded good results.
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Post by SemperFi on Jan 1, 2020 23:12:18 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator . Good. Xs and Os are for coordinators. We need a team leader and CEO to organize and motivate. Our attempt at specialists (on offense) as head coaches haven't yielded good results. Rhule's team getting constantly screwed by the refs. He will fit in well here!!!
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 1, 2020 23:13:07 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator . That's fine but it means he better have high caliber coordinators that can handle all that. He may have that at a college level at Baylor but how are we supposed to think he can get NFL coordinators or position coaches (that will need to become coordinators) to come work under him when all he has been was an Assistant O-line coach for one year in the NFL 8 years ago. What should we expect to happen? Perry Fewell and Kevin Gilbride to come back? Who else can he bring in here with NFL experience or will he be permitted to saddle the Giants with college coordinators?
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Post by TEM on Jan 1, 2020 23:15:30 GMT -5
All have risk Some less than others . This guy is off the scales with risk . CEO HC . What does that mean? Does he delegate responsibility? Is he a micro manager? Is he hands off until necessary Is saying I really don't know so I hire people that do . none of these are attributes you want in a HC. Some keep saying this new CEO HC Buzz word phrase. No one explains what it is This an HC Hands in with players and staff Has high-level knowledge of everyone's job underneath him Is willing to find a common ground with all parties to work with and communicate effectively. You know that Rhule does not have the qualities that you consider important? Does the include going for it on 4th down on your own side of the field in the 3rd quarter.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 1, 2020 23:20:13 GMT -5
Lol just got embarassed by a fake FG and bull dozed next play for a TD. NO THANK YOU TO RHULE! Mara/Tisch/Gettelman please stay far away from this putz.
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Post by fifthavephil on Jan 1, 2020 23:25:20 GMT -5
Maybe , he will bring in college coaches . Most assistants coaches , are hired from working together in the past or present.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 1, 2020 23:31:10 GMT -5
Maybe , he will bring in college coaches . Most assistants coaches , are hired from working together in the past or present. Another poster on a different thread, mentioned Rhule answered a question about offense with a Kevin Gilbride quote. I was joking when I responded that he'd bring in Gilbride on one of my replies in this thread. May be no joke. Maybe not Gilbride but perhaps Gilbride Jr. He will delve into that 2012 position coaching staff and promote them I bet. Keep in mind they were all dumped once before. Need clean slate not retreads. Giants must stay away based on what I am seeing. Almost fumbled on the Georgia 1 yard line just now and then next play had to call timeout due to play clock. This is not just ugly, it is FUGLY!
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Post by DJones19 on Jan 1, 2020 23:32:15 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator . I listened to a few interviews of both McCarthy and Rhule. Rhule can talk..has some charisma. McCarthy is a Super Bowl champ but as charismatic as a cardboard box. Since Mara and Gettleman hire and fire based on their "gut" they will hire Rhule after falling in love with him. I'm afraid Jones might regress.
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Post by giants38 on Jan 1, 2020 23:33:04 GMT -5
You know that Rhule does not have the qualities that you consider important? Does the include going for it on 4th down on your own side of the field in the 3rd quarter. What an absurd reply. Is that why you will not hire him? You still have not answered my question.
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Post by repeatchamps on Jan 1, 2020 23:37:06 GMT -5
I heard this reporter . Who knew him , while at Temple. He said he was not a good X and O guy. But, a very good organizer and motivator . I listened to a few interviews of both McCarthy and Rhule. Rhule can talk..has some charisma. McCarthy is a Super Bowl champ but as charismatic as a cardboard box. Since Mara and Gettleman hire and fire based on their "gut" they will hire Rhule after falling in love with him. I'm afraid Jones might regress. This in spades! Rhule will be a large step backwards folks (didn't think that could be possible for a 9-23 team last two seasons) and irreversibly damaging to the young talent on this team. I will say Baylor is surging right now and trying to mount a come back. Would prefer if they were not in this situation however. Giants have had plenty of this even with Coughlin. How about we get a coach that gets his team to dominate from the start and shuts a team down rest of the way? Is that too much to friggin' ask?
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Post by nygfanstrick on Jan 1, 2020 23:41:40 GMT -5
He has made some nice second half adjustments so far. Didn’t have many answers in that first half
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Post by SG88 on Jan 2, 2020 0:02:29 GMT -5
Some of the comments in this thread are hilarious. One game does not make a candidate good or bad. A whole body of work does. The guy has fixed two dumpster fire programs and made them good to really good teams. I expect better from a supposedly knowledgeable fan base.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 2, 2020 0:03:36 GMT -5
I don't think Couglin was a coordinator on any level in the NFL either and was hired from College and did pretty well with the expansion team. If Mcarthy has such a great resume why hasn't he gotten job last or this year yet? Coughlin spent 8 years in the NFL and was on a super bowl winning team, he was the Wide recievers coach . He also was the FC of BC and had a 60% win total How does that compare to one NFl season as a low level o-line coach with a 53% NCAA record? MattRrhule was also a assistant oline coach on a Superbowl winning team. Pat Flaherty talks highly of him. My point is TC is a very good coach , a 2 time superbowl champion Head coach. He didn't meet most of the requirements you had for Rhule but was still given a shot to coach in the NFL. What I am saying is none of us know if Rhule will make a good NFL HC but you can't rule him out based on random criteria that doesn't determine if a head coach will be successful in the NFL
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Post by SG88 on Jan 2, 2020 0:03:48 GMT -5
Lol just got embarassed by a fake FG and bull dozed next play for a TD. NO THANK YOU TO RHULE! Mara/Tisch/Gettelman please stay far away from this putz. Your takes are scorching hot on this subject matter.
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Post by bluebuddha on Jan 2, 2020 0:04:32 GMT -5
Coughlin spent 8 years in the NFL and was on a super bowl winning team, he was the Wide recievers coach . He also was the FC of BC and had a 60% win total How does that compare to one NFl season as a low level o-line coach with a 53% NCAA record? Matt Rhule was also an assistant oline coach on a Superbowl winning team. Pat Flaherty talks highly of him. My point is TC is a very good coach , a 2 time superbowl champion Head coach. He didn't meet most of the requirements you had for Rhule but was still given a shot to coach in the NFL. What I am saying is none of us know if Rhule will make a good NFL HC but you can't rule him out based on random criteria that doesn't determine if a head coach will be successful in the NFL
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Post by SG88 on Jan 2, 2020 0:08:37 GMT -5
Coughlin spent 8 years in the NFL and was on a super bowl winning team, he was the Wide recievers coach . He also was the FC of BC and had a 60% win total How does that compare to one NFl season as a low level o-line coach with a 53% NCAA record? MattRrhule was also a assistant oline coach on a Superbowl winning team. Pat Flaherty talks highly of him. My point is TC is a very good coach , a 2 time superbowl champion Head coach. He didn't meet most of the requirements you had for Rhule but was still given a shot to coach in the NFL. What I am saying is none of us know if Rhule will make a good NFL HC but you can't rule him out based on random criteria that doesn't determine if a head coach will be successful in the NFL The people that have been bitching about him being a candidate are blowing their loads seeing Baylor lose to Georgia and are posting a ton of nonsense about why he shouldn't be hired. Their bitching makes me want Rhule more as the HC.
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Post by southerner on Jan 2, 2020 0:38:48 GMT -5
MattRrhule was also a assistant oline coach on a Superbowl winning team. Pat Flaherty talks highly of him. My point is TC is a very good coach , a 2 time superbowl champion Head coach. He didn't meet most of the requirements you had for Rhule but was still given a shot to coach in the NFL. What I am saying is none of us know if Rhule will make a good NFL HC but you can't rule him out based on random criteria that doesn't determine if a head coach will be successful in the NFL The people that have been bitching about him being a candidate are blowing their loads seeing Baylor lose to Georgia and are posting a ton of nonsense about why he shouldn't be hired. Their bitching makes me want Rhule more as the HC. Well thankfully after tonight’s embarrassment at the hands of Georgia’s second string the Giants will not share your enthusiasm about Rhule.
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Post by southerner on Jan 2, 2020 0:48:31 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I don't like the looks of him going by his pictures I think I would pass. Hmm, interesting, that you would let someones physical appearance determine if they can coach or not. I don't think it has any bearing what-so-ever. He looks like the former high school football player who mows lawns for a living in a small town in Arkansas.
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Post by SG88 on Jan 2, 2020 1:01:01 GMT -5
The people that have been bitching about him being a candidate are blowing their loads seeing Baylor lose to Georgia and are posting a ton of nonsense about why he shouldn't be hired. Their bitching makes me want Rhule more as the HC. Well thankfully after tonight’s embarrassment at the hands of Georgia’s second string the Giants will not share your enthusiasm about Rhule. I didn't know that you were one of the owners.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 5:17:35 GMT -5
I'm still awaiting for Tony to at least put down something, anything, as to what makes this guy better than a Shurmur...
Ruhle aint making it move for me....
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 2, 2020 5:32:33 GMT -5
I'm still awaiting for Tony to at least put down something, anything, as to what makes this guy better than a Shurmur... Ruhle aint making it move for me.... Better than Shurmur? Hahahaha. He has a pulse. How about that? 7th worst winning percentage of all time for coaches with 50 or more games and that’s the standard you want to meet? lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 5:58:51 GMT -5
I'm still awaiting for Tony to at least put down something, anything, as to what makes this guy better than a Shurmur... Ruhle aint making it move for me.... Better than Shurmur? Hahahaha. He has a pulse. How about that? 7th worst winning percentage of all time for coaches with 50 or more games and that’s the standard you want to meet? lol So what makes Ruhle so great...I've seen you deflecting TEM now in excess of 200 posts...you were pounding your chest for him. I personally want to know why....you are good at throwing the jabs, but are having issues with counters. Why, why...not the generic anything is better than Shurmur, Shurmur blows donkey balls, answers...we get it, you hate Pat Shurmur. He can't be the answer to why Ruhle. NEVER have you said why. Yeah, he changed a college program...hardly not enuff evidence to suggest he can handle an NFL team. What makes him the next superbowl coach?
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Post by southerner on Jan 2, 2020 6:00:06 GMT -5
Well thankfully after tonight’s embarrassment at the hands of Georgia’s second string the Giants will not share your enthusiasm about Rhule. I didn't know that you were one of the owners. Don’t have to be..but getting thrashed by a bunch of bench warmers will not sit well with any of the teams that requested an interview with Rhule. He moves far down the Giants want list now.....perhaps Rhule should learn something about a thing called defense in his next few years at Baylor, then try the NFL interview circuit again.
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Post by southerner on Jan 2, 2020 6:29:22 GMT -5
I just wanted to know something here.....is it illegal in the Big 12 conference to play defense or tackle people?
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Post by TCHOF on Jan 2, 2020 7:49:40 GMT -5
Better than Shurmur? Hahahaha. He has a pulse. How about that? 7th worst winning percentage of all time for coaches with 50 or more games and that’s the standard you want to meet? lol So what makes Ruhle so great...I've seen you deflecting TEM now in excess of 200 posts...you were pounding your chest for him. I personally want to know why....you are good at throwing the jabs, but are having issues with counters. Why, why...not the generic anything is better than Shurmur, Shurmur blows donkey balls, answers...we get it, you hate Pat Shurmur. He can't be the answer to why Ruhle. NEVER have you said why. Yeah, he changed a college program...hardly not enuff evidence to suggest he can handle an NFL team. What makes him the next superbowl coach? I created a thread months ago stating my reasons for wanting Matt Rhule as the next coach. Go find it. I have told TEM the same thing. Apparently, you both have the time to create rambling, incoherent posts about Shurmur’s greatness, but not the time to do a simple search for my thread.
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