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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jan 17, 2020 16:02:10 GMT -5
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE finally fix our Oline!! Thomas at LT and a new highly intelligent and physically dominant Center. Protect DJ, open holes for Barkley Giants put a lot into the secondary and DL RB TE seem to be good for now they need to drafted OL and LB not in that order specifically.
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Post by lt56 on Jan 17, 2020 16:09:49 GMT -5
I would not be upset with that BUT we can't block anybody and we can't stop anybody so those are things that needs to be addressed first
I like Jeudy as well as CeeDee Lamb from Oklahoma a lot, I think both will be special big play receivers. With that being said we see from the last draft that you can get excellent receivers later!
DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel all drafted in the 2nd Round of the 2019 Draft. The best receive in the NFL currently Michael Thomas as a 2nd Round pick as well. So you can get the receiver later it doesn't have to be with the 4th pick in the NFL Draft even as good as Jeudy and Lamb are. Would like to either trade out, go with the best Offensive Lineman or best Defensive Player because those are bigger issues
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Post by TEM on Jan 17, 2020 17:09:23 GMT -5
We need to draft a tackle. These one year mercenaries do not allow the line to become cohesive as a unit. Who's talking about one year mercenaries?? I'm talking about Pugh, Flowers and Richburg.. Are you saying we do not need to draft a OT?
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 17:12:11 GMT -5
I would not be upset with that BUT we can't block anybody and we can't stop anybody so those are things that needs to be addressed first I like Jeudy as well as CeeDee Lamb from Oklahoma a lot, I think both will be special big play receivers. With that being said we see from the last draft that you can get excellent receivers later! DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel all drafted in the 2nd Round of the 2019 Draft. The best receive in the NFL currently Michael Thomas as a 2nd Round pick as well. So you can get the receiver later it doesn't have to be with the 4th pick in the NFL Draft even as good as Jeudy and Lamb are. Would like to either trade out, go with the best Offensive Lineman or best Defensive Player because those are bigger issues I'm in agreement here and it's going to suck for us to pass on my favorite reciever in the draft (Lamb) But to me it's a no brainer BPA for a unicorn at 4 (or even one spot back )is Thomas.. To me after Young there isn't a player on defense that will have as much instant impact as Thomas will for our line.... I mean K J Hill broke every recieving record at Obio State with all the weapons they put into the NFL and is a Victor Cruz clone that also can play outside...he is a late day 3 prospect...
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Post by allnygin on Jan 17, 2020 17:34:45 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable.
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Post by Morehead State on Jan 17, 2020 17:55:22 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable. We need a guy with some size. Too many small targets on this team right now.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 18:01:22 GMT -5
This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable. We need a guy with some size. Too many small targets on this team right now. Speed moreso The modern NFL is all about speed all over the field and stressing the defense all over the field,and taking quick passes to the house Many of these bigger bodied guys can't get seperation because of their body types not being able to run precise routes and being slow.. There are a few guys that are in the 6'2 that have bust out speed ... Having speed outside pushes teams into a 2 deep zone and safeties back... Run the ball at will then
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 17, 2020 18:33:04 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable. We don't NEED a wide receiver. We could use another Tight End.
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Post by giantfromtheoz on Jan 17, 2020 18:44:19 GMT -5
Take Denzel Mims in the 4th. Good player, decent speed, good size, strong hands. Him and Slayton will develop on the outside nicely with Shep doing his thing in the slot.
Agreed with a poster above, I should quote them but yes, we could do with another tight end. I think Kaden Smith takes that step up, it’s whether we still have faith in Jordan Reed 2.0. Engram is starting to get like that and 9-10 games a year isn’t really good when you’re the focal point of an offense. And I actually really really like the player, but I’d sacrifice 4.4 speed for 16 games and 850 yards a season, and I think most people would.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 20:12:16 GMT -5
This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable. We don't NEED a wide receiver. We could use another Tight End. Clueless Our recievers coming back are Slayton Tate(getting old) Shepard (one concussion away from retirement) Nothing else... We most certainly need a reciever and maybe 2 And no we shouldn't be paying a big named free agent with such deep draft
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Jan 17, 2020 20:19:08 GMT -5
We don't NEED a wide receiver. We could use another Tight End. Clueless Our recievers coming back are Slayton Tate(getting old) Shepard (one concussion away from retirement) Nothing else... We most certainly need a reciever and maybe 2 And no we shouldn't be paying a big named free agent with such deep draft Corey Coleman should be coming back too
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Post by lexington11 on Jan 17, 2020 20:38:44 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. uhmm,,yeah, they actually do. grabbing the best WR in the draft is a terrible idea..there is no right pick at #4 with all the holes this team has.
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Post by lexington11 on Jan 17, 2020 20:40:21 GMT -5
I would not be upset with that BUT we can't block anybody and we can't stop anybody so those are things that needs to be addressed first I like Jeudy as well as CeeDee Lamb from Oklahoma a lot, I think both will be special big play receivers. With that being said we see from the last draft that you can get excellent receivers later! DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel all drafted in the 2nd Round of the 2019 Draft. The best receive in the NFL currently Michael Thomas as a 2nd Round pick as well. So you can get the receiver later it doesn't have to be with the 4th pick in the NFL Draft even as good as Jeudy and Lamb are. Would like to either trade out, go with the best Offensive Lineman or best Defensive Player because those are bigger issues same can be said about offensive and defensive lineman.
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Post by lexington11 on Jan 17, 2020 20:41:50 GMT -5
We don't NEED a wide receiver. We could use another Tight End. Clueless Our recievers coming back are Slayton Tate(getting old) Shepard (one concussion away from retirement) Nothing else... We most certainly need a reciever and maybe 2 And no we shouldn't be paying a big named free agent with such deep draft no point in arguing as the room is filled with draft and operations genius's.
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Post by thetruth on Jan 17, 2020 21:26:25 GMT -5
We should get a WR but not at 4. Yeah And this is why Ross is working for the NFL network We.now know who was the one putting together Reese's big board. The best value at 4 would by far be OT...with Wirfs and Thomas Even a trade back one or 2 spots guarentees one of these guys... (but taking Barkley at 2 was cool - Giantlegacy) Funny how that works. Is it the whole touched by god thing?
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Post by thetruth on Jan 17, 2020 21:27:47 GMT -5
He can say that, He can not blame 4 + years of inept drafting on the QB . That does not pass the what took place test. Some of those picks are doing well with other teams. Kyle Shanahan called Weston Richburg the best center he’s ever coached. Linvall is one of the best DT,s in the league. Hankins is a vey good NFL tackle. Even Flowers had a better PFF grade at guard than Hernandez. some of JR,s picks drove me crazy. But he was fired less than a year from a Giants playoff game. as much as some folks want to revise history. JR and Marc Ross did a lot of good things as well. Yeah but Giants fans typically love revisionist history.
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Post by DMighty on Jan 17, 2020 21:30:43 GMT -5
Nice to have the 4th pick, but with qb needed teams directly behind us, whatever player we want at 4, we should be getting at 5 or 6 Move back, get your player and accumulate additional picks.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 17, 2020 21:52:36 GMT -5
Clueless Our recievers coming back are Slayton Tate(getting old) Shepard (one concussion away from retirement) Nothing else... We most certainly need a reciever and maybe 2 And no we shouldn't be paying a big named free agent with such deep draft Corey Coleman should be coming back too It's all unicorns and puppy dogs with you Why would we want him back when he did nothing in his career
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Post by giants38 on Jan 17, 2020 23:28:06 GMT -5
So yet JR gets the credit for the nucleus EA drafted but the fall of the Giants goes on the guy who was hired to try to make up for 8 years of lost drafts. Giants started falling off the cliff soon after Marc Ross was hired and EA and a bit later DG left. The part that gets me is villainization of the current GM who had as much to do or more helping bring both those superbowls then Ross ever did. JR gets the credit for his role in a very collaborative process in choosing players with our franchise. Tom got the players he wanted...that is well known. He loved Ereck Flowers. As a matter of fact it took him 5 minutes to sign him when we released him.
Tom, JR and others deserve great credit for our 2 SB wins. They also deserve a lot of blame for our downfall. I was fine with everyone getting fired, but I won't let the villainizing of these guys stand without comment here.
I can't agree with you. Ross said in an interview on nfl.com last Tuesday that the Giants GM makes all personnel decisions, and it has been that way since George Young. If you believe that TC would draft the "potential and "athletes" that JR drafted, you are simply making up a story without any basis in fact and are trying to spread the failure of Ross and JR to TC.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Jan 18, 2020 0:21:51 GMT -5
This team does need a reciever what world are you living in? Not a number 4 though. More pressing needs, but to down play the need of a reciever given the circumstances with our group is laughable. We need a guy with some size. Too many small targets on this team right now. 100%.BUT we have a lot of needs. Trade down,get the O line right. Right now good Dlines are licking their chops when they dance into The Stadium!, We need a pass rusher and a Real LB. Then get a late rounder like Sanu from Rutgers.. We need a safety to help peppers. We got SB at #2. Let’s use the draft to build a new Giant team not just another OBJ!! We
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Post by shocknaweny on Jan 18, 2020 10:47:32 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. I do not want a receiver at fourth but if that has to be the case I prefer Lamb
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Post by shocknaweny on Jan 18, 2020 10:55:38 GMT -5
Just goes to show how much damage they did lol as most knew that weren't in denial. the hole being dug was turning into a canyon. It's such a kneejerk reaction to focus on the bad of the old regime. Let's not forget that they won 2 SB's.
And unless you know specifically, what Marc Ross's role was in drafting and signing players.....your villainization of him is specious.
2 .....Accorsi was responsible for the 1st one IMO...his core players ...
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Post by GameTime on Jan 18, 2020 10:56:28 GMT -5
Said we should pick Jeudy at 4. Yeah because we definitely need another receiver. This is why he's no longer employed by this team. I do not want a receiver at fourth but if that has to be the case I prefer Lamb no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!!
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Post by shocknaweny on Jan 18, 2020 11:00:37 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 18, 2020 11:01:34 GMT -5
I do not want a receiver at fourth but if that has to be the case I prefer Lamb no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!! I’m going to give you another crack at this one. Because you deserve one, this joke should be thrown out and never see the light again.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 18, 2020 11:06:45 GMT -5
no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!! I’m going to give you another crack at this one. Because you deserve one, this joke should be thrown out and never see the light again. With the 4th overall pick The NY Giants select CeeDee Lamb, reciever,Oklahoma You do realize you just jinxed this to be our pick with this post right? Let the lamb chops Jokes commence
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Post by giantlegacy on Jan 18, 2020 11:07:48 GMT -5
I do not want a receiver at fourth but if that has to be the case I prefer Lamb no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!! Your a mutton for punishment with this post
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Post by GameTime on Jan 18, 2020 11:13:03 GMT -5
no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!! I’m going to give you another crack at this one. Because you deserve one, this joke should be thrown out and never see the light again. oh this is no joke....... never over cook Lamb.....
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Post by Kruunch on Jan 18, 2020 11:18:03 GMT -5
I’m going to give you another crack at this one. Because you deserve one, this joke should be thrown out and never see the light again. With the 4th overall pick The NY Giants select CeeDee Lamb, reciever,Oklahoma You do realize you just jinxed this to be our pick with this post right? Let the lamb chops Jokes commence I wish I had that influence over the powers to be. If that was the case Gettleman would be as far away from this franchise. The only thing that would accompany him is his resume and that lamb joke.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 18, 2020 11:38:33 GMT -5
no more than medium/ medium rare... anything more than that and its ruined!! Your a mutton for punishment with this post you're going to roast for that one
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