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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 7:21:12 GMT -5
If they haven’t surpassed the 70s in suckage yet, they are well on their way. The stat that AT NO POINT since ‘16 have they had a winning record is truly crazy. It is one thing to have a losing record overall at the end of the season. But this generation’s Giants have never been winners even for 1 week for several YEARS now. Think about that. The past 5 years we have been out of it by Halloween. 2017- Started 1-8 (0-5 Start) 2018- Started 1-7 (0-2 Start) 2019- Started 2-11 (0-2 Start) 2020- Started 1-7 (0-5 Start) 2021- Started 1-5 (Still in progress) (0-3 Start) If this isn't the worst 5 year run for this organization, then I don't know what is. I don't see a 5 year period in the 70s looing as bad as that though. And I dont think it magically turns around in 2022.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 7:54:07 GMT -5
If they haven’t surpassed the 70s in suckage yet, they are well on their way. The stat that AT NO POINT since ‘16 have they had a winning record is truly crazy. It is one thing to have a losing record overall at the end of the season. But this generation’s Giants have never been winners even for 1 week for several YEARS now. Think about that. The past 5 years we have been out of it by Halloween. 2017- Started 1-8 (0-5 Start) 2018- Started 1-7 (0-2 Start) 2019- Started 2-11 (0-2 Start) 2020- Started 1-7 (0-5 Start) 2021- Started 1-5 (Still in progress) (0-3 Start) If this isn't the worst 5 year run for this organization, then I don't know what is. I don't see a 5 year period in the 70s looing as bad as that though. And I dont think it magically turns around in 2022. I do remember the defense being a good unit in the 70s and fun to watch where both the defense and offense are just not fun to watch these days so my vote also goes to now being the bigger shit show..
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 8:07:14 GMT -5
If they haven’t surpassed the 70s in suckage yet, they are well on their way. The stat that AT NO POINT since ‘16 have they had a winning record is truly crazy. It is one thing to have a losing record overall at the end of the season. But this generation’s Giants have never been winners even for 1 week for several YEARS now. Think about that. The past 5 years we have been out of it by Halloween. 2017- Started 1-8 (0-5 Start) 2018- Started 1-7 (0-2 Start) 2019- Started 2-11 (0-2 Start) 2020- Started 1-7 (0-5 Start) 2021- Started 1-5 (Still in progress) (0-3 Start) If this isn't the worst 5 year run for this organization, then I don't know what is. I don't see a 5 year period in the 70s looing as bad as that though. And I dont think it magically turns around in 2022. but offseason we’re a playoff team on paper.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 8:13:59 GMT -5
Not to mention, in 2021, the NYGs have been outscored 82-38 AT HOME. And Leonard Williams says the boohoos are hurting his feelings.
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Post by te88 on Oct 18, 2021 9:03:41 GMT -5
If they haven’t surpassed the 70s in suckage yet, they are well on their way. The stat that AT NO POINT since ‘16 have they had a winning record is truly crazy. It is one thing to have a losing record overall at the end of the season. But this generation’s Giants have never been winners even for 1 week for several YEARS now. Think about that. The past 5 years we have been out of it by Halloween. 2017- Started 1-8 (0-5 Start) 2018- Started 1-7 (0-2 Start) 2019- Started 2-11 (0-2 Start) 2020- Started 1-7 (0-5 Start) 2021- Started 1-5 (Still in progress) (0-3 Start) If this isn't the worst 5 year run for this organization, then I don't know what is. I don't see a 5 year period in the 70s looing as bad as that though. And I dont think it magically turns around in 2022. Truly hopeless.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 18, 2021 9:29:53 GMT -5
No, unless their opinion is based on some ridiculous strawman, then yeah I'll probably challenge it. If your take on public message boards is that people make up stuff and then try to ridicule others about it to try to make themselves feel better or smart or WTF it is, then no, I am definitely not familiar with public message boards. Not that this is a public message board, but I realize that's beside the point. So what exactly are you challenging every time you I, or others, state opinions or facts and you ask if I think it will actually make a difference? The notion that others are accountable to you or anyone else for the fandom is what is being rejected. The contrived homer/hater strawman is complete nonsense yet some continue to spend much of their time posting only through that childish lens and seem not to be able to discuss the team without creating some non existent enemy.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 18, 2021 10:17:29 GMT -5
So what exactly are you challenging every time you I, or others, state opinions or facts and you ask if I think it will actually make a difference? The notion that others are accountable to you or anyone else for the fandom is what is being rejected. The contrived homer/hater strawman is complete nonsense yet some continue to spend much of their time posting only through that childish lens and seem not to be able to discuss the team without creating some non existent enemy. Lol, why is it the strawman is about the only illogical fallacy you ever see mentioned on MB’s when there are so many that are more applicable? I think it’s because either people don’t know what it really means or they use it inappropriately and when it’s not applicable. If anyone is guilty of creating a strawman it’s you. Did I ever say anyone is accountable to me? Did I ever say that homers are the enemy? No, I didn’t so stop trying to create an argument that doesn’t exist. I’ve admitted several times that I’m simply stating my opinion and I realize no one is accountable to me and my opinion won’t make a difference. What more do you want? For the record, I don’t look at homers as the enemy but as a different mindset, a different opinion if you will. That doesn’t mean they’re the “enemy” it means they have a different opinion than I do and we normally disagree with each other. I realize we’re all cheering for the same team and want what’s best but we have different thoughts and opinions of how to accomplish that. Again, stop trying to create something that doesn’t exist. Thanks.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 18, 2021 10:40:44 GMT -5
The notion that others are accountable to you or anyone else for the fandom is what is being rejected. The contrived homer/hater strawman is complete nonsense yet some continue to spend much of their time posting only through that childish lens and seem not to be able to discuss the team without creating some non existent enemy. Lol, why is it the strawman is about the only illogical fallacy you ever see mentioned on MB’s when there are so many that are more applicable? I think it’s because either people don’t know what it really means or they use it inappropriately and when it’s not applicable. If anyone is guilty of creating a strawman it’s you. Did I ever say anyone is accountable to me? Did I ever say that homers are the enemy? No, I didn’t so stop trying to create an argument that doesn’t exist. I’ve admitted several times that I’m simply stating my opinion and I realize no one is accountable to me and my opinion won’t make a difference. What more do you want? For the record, I don’t look at homers as the enemy but as a different mindset, a different opinion if you will. That doesn’t mean they’re the “enemy” it means they have a different opinion than I do and we normally disagree with each other. I realize we’re all cheering for the same team and want what’s best but we have different thoughts and opinions of how to accomplish that. Again, stop trying to create something that doesn’t exist. Thanks. You could have saved yourself a lot of wasted time if the entire post was just the last line; I'm glad you're finally hearing it. Now take your own advice, Dr.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 18, 2021 10:42:32 GMT -5
Lol, why is it the strawman is about the only illogical fallacy you ever see mentioned on MB’s when there are so many that are more applicable? I think it’s because either people don’t know what it really means or they use it inappropriately and when it’s not applicable. If anyone is guilty of creating a strawman it’s you. Did I ever say anyone is accountable to me? Did I ever say that homers are the enemy? No, I didn’t so stop trying to create an argument that doesn’t exist. I’ve admitted several times that I’m simply stating my opinion and I realize no one is accountable to me and my opinion won’t make a difference. What more do you want? For the record, I don’t look at homers as the enemy but as a different mindset, a different opinion if you will. That doesn’t mean they’re the “enemy” it means they have a different opinion than I do and we normally disagree with each other. I realize we’re all cheering for the same team and want what’s best but we have different thoughts and opinions of how to accomplish that. Again, stop trying to create something that doesn’t exist. Thanks. You could have saved yourself a lot of wasted time if the entire post was just the last line; I'm glad you're finally hearing it. Now take your own advice, Dr. Well I’m not changing the way I post, so are you done? BTW, if I’m the DR does that make you my Pa?
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Post by Parademon1 on Oct 18, 2021 10:42:55 GMT -5
If they haven’t surpassed the 70s in suckage yet, they are well on their way. The stat that AT NO POINT since ‘16 have they had a winning record is truly crazy. It is one thing to have a losing record overall at the end of the season. But this generation’s Giants have never been winners even for 1 week for several YEARS now. Think about that. The past 5 years we have been out of it by Halloween. 2017- Started 1-8 (0-5 Start) 2018- Started 1-7 (0-2 Start) 2019- Started 2-11 (0-2 Start) 2020- Started 1-7 (0-5 Start) 2021- Started 1-5 (Still in progress) (0-3 Start) If this isn't the worst 5 year run for this organization, then I don't know what is. I don't see a 5 year period in the 70s looing as bad as that though. And I dont think it magically turns around in 2022. Starting 6-38 in Sept/Oct/Nov for the past 5 yrs is really digging yourself a deep hole to climb out of in an attempt to have a winning season & make the playoffs. This team would have to have an undefeated 2nd half every yr for the past 5 yrs to just barely sneak in with a WC spot. During TBs final 5 yrs in NE, these were their records thru the 1st 10 games of the yr 2015 10-0 2016 8-2 2017 8-2 2018 7-3 2019 9-1 total 42-10 That is how you win your div & get HFA. This team can't even finish Sept/Oct with a 4-4 record!
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 18, 2021 10:54:25 GMT -5
You could have saved yourself a lot of wasted time if the entire post was just the last line; I'm glad you're finally hearing it. Now take your own advice, Dr. Well I’m not changing the way I post, so are you done? BTW, if I’m the DR does that make you my Pa? We'll see; that will be up to you.
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Post by vinnie on Oct 18, 2021 10:56:30 GMT -5
Well I’m not changing the way I post, so are you done? BTW, if I’m the DR does that make you my Pa? We'll see; that will be up to you. Can’t wait, this is so exciting!
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 18, 2021 11:00:33 GMT -5
We'll see; that will be up to you. Can’t wait, this is so exciting! It sure is! Here's hoping it doesn't go all Bart Scott on us.
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