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Post by Roswell on Oct 18, 2021 6:06:56 GMT -5
I know it really doesn’t matter because right now this team is a submarine with screen doors but why was Daniel Jones still in the game down 35 points in the 4th quarter when he was in concussion protocol this week?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 6:11:11 GMT -5
Thought the same thing when I switched back to the game in the 4th..
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Post by Roswell on Oct 18, 2021 6:12:32 GMT -5
Thought the same thing when I switched back to the game in the 4th.. Maybe he had to work on stick routes with Dante Pettis.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 6:17:28 GMT -5
Thought the same thing when I switched back to the game in the 4th.. Maybe he had to work on stick routes with Dante Pettis. Wasn't that painful to watch? Wasn't expecting him to get that much playing time and he didn't help his cause even in garbage time. ( I missed the last scoring drive)
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 18, 2021 6:33:08 GMT -5
Desperate
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Post by Giggles on Oct 18, 2021 6:41:08 GMT -5
He's the biggest fraud on the team. Mara fell for his slick talking used car salesman act.
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Post by spaceweather on Oct 18, 2021 7:43:20 GMT -5
Judge is a clueless idiot. Not a HC.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 18, 2021 8:07:34 GMT -5
He is a big bag of wind, string of jargon with nothing to show for it. Joe Palooka, I call him.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 8:08:40 GMT -5
He's the biggest fraud on the team. Mara fell for his slick talking used car salesman act. most of the fan base didn’t fall for Gettleman’s act.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 18, 2021 8:09:10 GMT -5
By the way, if his jargon, slogan was to "play hard for 60 minutes" why not run Jones on several QB draws to end his season for good?
SMH!
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 18, 2021 8:28:27 GMT -5
I like Joe Judge's message and philosophy, but other than his ability to articulate his message/philosophy (which his team has certainly not lived up to), what has he shown to indicate that he can be a good coach in this league?
Hitting your talking points is fine, but eventually that has to be backed up by team performance or else you're doing nothing but blowing hot air.
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 18, 2021 8:36:39 GMT -5
I like Joe Judge's message and philosophy, but other than his ability to articulate his message/philosophy (which his team has certainly not lived up to), what has he shown to indicate that he can be a good coach in this league? Hitting your talking points is fine, but eventually that has to be backed up by team performance or else you're doing nothing but bowing hot air. Totally agree. He talks the talk, but so far hasn't walked the walk. His teams often look disorganized and badly coached. And at times embarrassing. As I said previously, he seems to treat the beginning of the season as extended preseason. His teams are not ready to play against even other weak teams.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 18, 2021 8:39:31 GMT -5
I really wanted to believe he was the right choice for HC. Coming off last season I believed he was. Now...I just don't know.
His decision making at critical points of the game concerns me. His use of time outs is head scratching at times.
I think it was the Atlanta (maybe Washington)game. We had 4th and 2 or 3 on their 39 yard line and he punted. Yesterday we had a 4th and 2 on our 39 yard line, and he went for it. I don't understand the logic there. I like the balls, but how do you go on your own 39 and not on the other teams 39?
I'm starting to think he's in over his head.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 8:41:36 GMT -5
He's the biggest fraud on the team. Mara fell for his slick talking used car salesman act. most of the fan base didn’t fall for Gettleman’s act. I wouldn't say "most" but certainly a bunch of us. Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge are almost one in the same if you think about it. Tell us what we would love to see and want to hear, but back it up with absolutely nothing but the opposite. Like the Joe Biden of organizations right now.
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Post by TEM on Oct 18, 2021 8:44:51 GMT -5
IMO: Joe Judge is just like the rest of the yes men after TC.
The only difference is he talks a good game in front of the mic.
McAdoo and Shumur were deer in the headlights at the podium.
The results are the same.
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Post by jerky on Oct 18, 2021 8:45:50 GMT -5
I might get destroyed for saying this, but I think he should get at least 2 more years, unless it becomes a MacAdoo scenario where the locker room is completely lost. If we keep changing head coaches every 2 years, we'll be like the Browns pre-Stefanski.
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Post by ratbastich on Oct 18, 2021 8:57:52 GMT -5
I like Joe Judge's message and philosophy, but other than his ability to articulate his message/philosophy (which his team has certainly not lived up to), what has he shown to indicate that he can be a good coach in this league? Hitting your talking points is fine, but eventually that has to be backed up by team performance or else you're doing nothing but blowing hot air. At this point all he has proved is that he is like every other coach from the BB tree.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 8:58:14 GMT -5
most of the fan base didn’t fall for Gettleman’s act. I wouldn't say "most" but certainly a bunch of us. Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge are almost one in the same if you think about it. Tell us what we would love to see and want to hear, but back it up with absolutely nothing but the opposite. Like the Joe Biden of organizations right now. i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion - the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 9:04:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "most" but certainly a bunch of us. Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge are almost one in the same if you think about it. Tell us what we would love to see and want to hear, but back it up with absolutely nothing but the opposite. Like the Joe Biden of organizations right now. i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion - the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat. Im talking about them both adamantly talking the talk but not walking the walk.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 9:07:41 GMT -5
i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion - the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat. Im talking about them both adamantly talking the talk but not walking the walk. What talk? Gettleman spoke about kicking @ss and contradicted himself continually. Never heard Judge do that.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 9:25:42 GMT -5
Im talking about them both adamantly talking the talk but not walking the walk. What talk? Gettleman spoke about kicking @ss and contradicted himself continually. Never heard Judge do that. Maybe you forgot "What Im about, ok, is an old school physical mentality. Ok. We are going to put a product on the field, that the people of this city and region are going to be proud of, because this team will represent this area. We will play fast we will play downhill we will play aggressive. We will punch you in the nose for 60 minutes and play every play like it has a history and life of its own with a relentless competitive attitude. We will play fundamentally sound and will will not beat ourselves."
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 18, 2021 9:28:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "most" but certainly a bunch of us. Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge are almost one in the same if you think about it. Tell us what we would love to see and want to hear, but back it up with absolutely nothing but the opposite. Like the Joe Biden of organizations right now. i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion - the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat. I will ask again ... Can you name one good thing that the coach has done since he has come here other than talking?
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 18, 2021 9:31:29 GMT -5
What talk? Gettleman spoke about kicking @ss and contradicted himself continually. Never heard Judge do that. Maybe you forgot "What Im about, ok, is an old school physical mentality. Ok. We are going to put a product on the field, that the people of this city and region are going to be proud of, because this team will represent this area. We will play fast we will play downhill we will play aggressive. We will punch you in the nose for 60 minutes and play every play like it has a history and life of its own with a relentless competitive attitude. We will play fundamentally sound and will will not beat ourselves."Judge seems to be a better speaker than he is a HC and I've said as much since he got here, too much talk and not enough action..
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2021 9:34:27 GMT -5
Maybe you forgot "What Im about, ok, is an old school physical mentality. Ok. We are going to put a product on the field, that the people of this city and region are going to be proud of, because this team will represent this area. We will play fast we will play downhill we will play aggressive. We will punch you in the nose for 60 minutes and play every play like it has a history and life of its own with a relentless competitive attitude. We will play fundamentally sound and will will not beat ourselves."Judge seems to be a better speaker than he is a HC and I've said as much since he got here, too much talk and not enough action.. Just like Gettleman. "We are going to run the ball, stop the run, and rush the passer."
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 10:00:41 GMT -5
What talk? Gettleman spoke about kicking @ss and contradicted himself continually. Never heard Judge do that. Maybe you forgot "What Im about, ok, is an old school physical mentality. Ok. We are going to put a product on the field, that the people of this city and region are going to be proud of, because this team will represent this area. We will play fast we will play downhill we will play aggressive. We will punch you in the nose for 60 minutes and play every play like it has a history and life of its own with a relentless competitive attitude. We will play fundamentally sound and will will not beat ourselves."blame the coach if it makes you feel better. Obviously you believe this roster is good and with a different coach they would be winning.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 10:03:29 GMT -5
i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion - the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat. I will ask again ... Can you name one good thing that the coach has done since he has come here other than talking? he’s held the lockeroom from falling apart like Mac. Again, you must believe this is a good roster and think yet another coach would be winning with this roster.
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Post by idkaname on Oct 18, 2021 10:08:16 GMT -5
I will ask again ... Can you name one good thing that the coach has done since he has come here other than talking? he’s held the lockeroom from falling apart like Mac. Again, you must believe this is a good roster and think yet another coach would be winning with this roster. pretty sure they said judge has significant input on draft day. He gave the giants this roster 🐸 ☕️
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Post by Roswell on Oct 18, 2021 10:08:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "most" but certainly a bunch of us. Dave Gettleman and Joe Judge are almost one in the same if you think about it. Tell us what we would love to see and want to hear, but back it up with absolutely nothing but the opposite. Like the Joe Biden of organizations right now. i am thinking about it and don’t see the connection. He inherited a poorly constructed roster and it’s still poorly constructed. - Golladay is out - Barkley is out - Jones is coming off a concussion- the medicore/poor OL added nothing and lost some - Engram is still overrated - He has zero pass rush - Lost his only LB to injury - Lost Tomlinson which broke up the only stable position on the team Blame the coach b/c he’s like Gettleman? How???? Obviously some of you think this roster is good. Otherwise, why blame he coach? By all means, share which coach you want. Guaranteed that coach will fail too with this roster. Until then, every coach will be the modern day scapegoat. So why is he in the game down 38-3 in the 4th quarter? Or are you going to blame the GM for that too? The point of this thread is to question Joe Judge's judgement. Or lack thereof. Yes. he has had more than a normal amount of injuries to key players. But how is him playing his QB in a 38-3 game, that was just in concussion protocol, a wise move? There's plenty of deserved blame for the GM. Time Judge takes his fair share for not improving anything other than pressers.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 18, 2021 10:13:39 GMT -5
he’s held the lockeroom from falling apart like Mac. Again, you must believe this is a good roster and think yet another coach would be winning with this roster. pretty sure they said judge has significant input on draft day. He gave the giants this roster 🐸 ☕️ oh of course, it’s his roster. And he created these injuries, poor blocking, no pass rush and inaccurate QB by himself.
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Post by idkaname on Oct 18, 2021 10:15:14 GMT -5
pretty sure they said judge has significant input on draft day. He gave the giants this roster 🐸 ☕️ oh of course, it’s his roster. And he created these injuries, poor blocking, no pass rush and inaccurate QB by himself. technically, yes. It’s his job to teach players/assistants to improve on those areas…
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