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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 8:56:14 GMT -5
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Post by FBomb on Nov 29, 2021 8:59:12 GMT -5
Also......water is wet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 9:04:00 GMT -5
also.. oxygen is needed to live..
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Post by spaceweather on Nov 29, 2021 9:06:58 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others."
The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 29, 2021 9:07:06 GMT -5
lol we'll see
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Post by Nite on Nov 29, 2021 9:27:14 GMT -5
Don't you all worry bout' this .. Mara will find a way to get Dave part II in here...he will be at least 68.756 years old. Still has that dusty rolodex from the 70s a few of them folks are still alive (and vertical).. ..Also a 4th cousin 2x removed from Mara so that will be an added bonus
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Post by Nite on Nov 29, 2021 9:29:32 GMT -5
In other news Mara didn't have the balls to be present at the Strahan ceremony.. Understandable since there were boos (not enough imo).. Stadium was nearly filled...oh well.... suckers will be suckers
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Post by Roswell on Nov 29, 2021 9:37:53 GMT -5
In other news Mara didn't have the balls to be present at the Strahan ceremony.. Understandable since there were boos (not enough imo).. Stadium was nearly filled...oh well.... suckers will be suckers He and Tisch were out there but they weren't announced. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 10:19:51 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 29, 2021 10:23:58 GMT -5
Let me bring everyone back to the basics.
Replacing a GM is not progress.
Replacing a HC is not progress.
Replacing an OC or DC is not progress.
It is not even a first step toward progress with the Giants and JM as "ceo".
It is just another illusion of progress.
Next he gets to talk about accountability and how the team just wasn't performing the way it needed to and personnel wasn't chosen or coached up properly, yada yada yada.
JM doesn't know what this team needs as a GM or HC and that is why he continues to bungle every one of those decisions.
He doesn't understand the sequencing of terminations. We are now set up to hiring a GM who doesn't get to pick his own HC.
Won't that limit the pool of the best GM candidates? Of course it will but JM doesn't get that.
Even if true, DGs removal doesn't change a thing because the root cause of what ails us will still be there.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 29, 2021 10:28:49 GMT -5
How nice of the Giants. They’re letting Gettleman choose his faith. One of the worst general managers in history, will get to walk out those doors on his own. No longer will we fire the men who don’t do the job, we’ll give him a gold watch and season tickets for life.
As for our next general manager. It’s Kevin Abrams job to lose, have to keep the nepotism alive and well. Or, a flunkie from the Patriots organization. When it has been proving time and time again. It’s Bill Belichick who makes all the decisions there. If his name isn’t Bill Belichick, I want no one from that organization.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 10:36:22 GMT -5
will be an emotional Dave Gettleman appreciation thread
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 10:44:18 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. I read this yesterday and almost threw up at the dinner table. If this is how it plays out then obviously Mara hasn’t learned a thing which isn’t the slightest bit surprising. I’m really starting to despise him. He’s either doing the same ole by hiring from within or trying to recreate what the hoodie has done with NE. If that’s the case, just give Judge GM capabilities as well and let him sink or swim. Mara is always trying to live in the past or trying to recreate something that is impossible. Jones isn’t Manning, Judge sure as hell isn’t BB, Abrams isn’t Accorsi and the Giants aren’t the Patriots. If Mara wants to be the Patriots so bad maybe he should replicate what Kraft has done as an owner and stay the hell out of football operations, as well as his family. It’s almost unbelievable, but not really, that Mara may be thinking of Abrams or someone from the Patriots not named Bill Belichick. |
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 10:48:22 GMT -5
will be an emotional Dave Gettleman appreciation thread I can think of about 2-3 posters that would start that thread and still make excuses for him. I’ll show appreciation for him “retiring” and getting as far away from the Giants as possible. |
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Post by Roswell on Nov 29, 2021 10:49:07 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. I read this yesterday and almost threw up at the dinner table. If this is how it plays out then obviously Mara hasn’t learned a thing which isn’t the slightest bit surprising. I’m really starting to despise him. He’s either doing the same ole by hiring from within or trying to recreate what the hoodie has done with NE. If that’s the case, just give Judge GM capabilities as well and let him sink or swim. Mara is always trying to live in the past or trying to recreate something that is impossible. Jones isn’t Manning, Judge sure as hell isn’t BB, Abrams isn’t Accorsi and the Giants aren’t the Patriots. If Mara wants to be the Patriots so bad maybe he should replicate what Kraft has done as an owner and stay the hell out of football operations, as well as his family. It’s almost unbelievable, but not really, that Mara may be thinking of Abrams or someone from the Patriots not named Bill Belichick. Absolutely. "A man's got to know his limitations." |
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 11:08:16 GMT -5
Let me bring everyone back to the basics. Replacing a GM is not progress. Replacing a HC is not progress. Replacing an OC or DC is not progress. It is not even a first step toward progress with the Giants and JM as "ceo". It is just another illusion of progress. Next he gets to talk about accountability and how the team just wasn't performing the way it needed to and personnel wasn't chosen or coached up properly, yada yada yada. JM doesn't know what this team needs as a GM or HC and that is why he continues to bungle every one of those decisions. He doesn't understand the sequencing of terminations. We are now set up to hiring a GM who doesn't get to pick his own HC. Won't that limit the pool of the best GM candidates? Of course it will but JM doesn't get that. Even if true, DGs removal doesn't change a thing because the root cause of what ails us will still be there. The best post I’ve read in two months on here. Amazingly said. This isn’t progress. Mara announcing he and his family are stepping back from day to day management of the team is progress. |
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 11:10:12 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 11:30:08 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. The Titan have both in Ossenfort he has worked with the coach and has worked fro BB and now is with the Titans. We have a long way to go tho. |
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 11:33:30 GMT -5
Let me bring everyone back to the basics. Replacing a GM is not progress. Replacing a HC is not progress. Replacing an OC or DC is not progress. It is not even a first step toward progress with the Giants and JM as "ceo". It is just another illusion of progress. Next he gets to talk about accountability and how the team just wasn't performing the way it needed to and personnel wasn't chosen or coached up properly, yada yada yada. JM doesn't know what this team needs as a GM or HC and that is why he continues to bungle every one of those decisions. He doesn't understand the sequencing of terminations. We are now set up to hiring a GM who doesn't get to pick his own HC. Won't that limit the pool of the best GM candidates? Of course it will but JM doesn't get that. Even if true, DGs removal doesn't change a thing because the root cause of what ails us will still be there. The best post I’ve read in two months on here. Amazingly said. This isn’t progress. Mara announcing he and his family are stepping back from day to day management of the team is progress. It will never happen no matter how hard you wish it so. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 11:35:32 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Jmike is defending him hard in another thread.. So there is one! |
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 11:36:09 GMT -5
Let me bring everyone back to the basics. Replacing a GM is not progress. Replacing a HC is not progress. Replacing an OC or DC is not progress. It is not even a first step toward progress with the Giants and JM as "ceo". It is just another illusion of progress. Next he gets to talk about accountability and how the team just wasn't performing the way it needed to and personnel wasn't chosen or coached up properly, yada yada yada. JM doesn't know what this team needs as a GM or HC and that is why he continues to bungle every one of those decisions. He doesn't understand the sequencing of terminations. We are now set up to hiring a GM who doesn't get to pick his own HC. Won't that limit the pool of the best GM candidates? Of course it will but JM doesn't get that. Even if true, DGs removal doesn't change a thing because the root cause of what ails us will still be there. Fans thought the same thing back in the late 70's. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 11:37:13 GMT -5
Just like trading Reese fro Gettlemen did nothing if DG is the only change chalk up 5 more years of nothing, Abrems might have his own idea's but he has been in this building to long to swing the ax, they need to go outside of this place and give them full control. Might not work but it can't get worse.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 11:40:13 GMT -5
The best post I’ve read in two months on here. Amazingly said. This isn’t progress. Mara announcing he and his family are stepping back from day to day management of the team is progress. It will never happen no matter how hard you wish it so. Not true. People wished for Garrett to get canned. The Mara’s fold under fan pressure. Fans don’t get that, and they reward the Mara’s with optimism instead of outrage every time someone gets fired. That’s why we’re a breath away from our 5th HC in 6 years and our 3rd GM in 5. Fans get excited we we hire new people. The Mara’s respond. It’s why Mara wasn’t there for the Strahan ceremony. Even Goodell doesn’t shy away from the boos like John does. |
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 11:41:16 GMT -5
Just like trading Reese fro Gettlemen did nothing if DG is the only change chalk up 5 more years of nothing, Abrems might have his own idea's but he has been in this building to long to swing the ax, they need to go outside of this place and give them full control. Might not work but it can't get worse. People are already complaining if they do that(Patriots) , the Giants must pick a GM the fans want or nothing gets better ,right? |
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 11:41:32 GMT -5
In other news Mara didn't have the balls to be present at the Strahan ceremony.. Understandable since there were boos (not enough imo).. Stadium was nearly filled...oh well.... suckers will be suckers Well said. |
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Post by Roswell on Nov 29, 2021 11:42:39 GMT -5
It will never happen no matter how hard you wish it so. Not true. People wished for Garrett to get canned. The Mara’s fold under fan pressure. Fans don’t get that, and they reward the Mara’s with optimism instead of outrage every time someone gets fired. That’s why we’re a breath away from our 5th HC in 6 years and our 3rd GM in 5. Fans get excited we we hire new people. The Mara’s respond. It’s why Mara wasn’t there for the Strahan ceremony. Even Goodell doesn’t shy away from the boos like John does. Mara was there. He and Tisch were on the stage. They were just unannounced. |
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 11:44:30 GMT -5
It will never happen no matter how hard you wish it so. Not true. People wished for Garrett to get canned. The Mara’s fold under fan pressure. Fans don’t get that, and they reward the Mara’s with optimism instead of outrage every time someone gets fired. That’s why we’re a breath away from our 5th HC in 6 years and our 3rd GM in 5. Fans get excited we we hire new people. The Mara’s respond. It’s why Mara wasn’t there for the Strahan ceremony. Even Goodell doesn’t shy away from the boos like John does. Actually the Mara's very rarely fold to fan pressure. ELI.They were there for Strahan just not announced or spoke. This is a Family owed operation all fans know that .If you chose to be a Giants fan you live with it good or bad. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 11:47:12 GMT -5
Just like trading Reese fro Gettlemen did nothing if DG is the only change chalk up 5 more years of nothing, Abrems might have his own idea's but he has been in this building to long to swing the ax, they need to go outside of this place and give them full control. Might not work but it can't get worse. People are already complaining if they do that(Patriots) , the Giants must pick a GM the fans want or nothing gets better ,right? Fans are Fans we don't know anything that is really going on, just the score at the end of the game, even with knowledge of the game they don't know responsibilities of each player within the play and what routes are first through 4 as far as reads go. we don't even know the play called on offense or defense it is all guessing i wouldn't want anyone here picking the next GM sorry guys don't want Mara to either. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 29, 2021 11:49:43 GMT -5
People are already complaining if they do that(Patriots) , the Giants must pick a GM the fans want or nothing gets better ,right? Fans are Fans we don't know anything that is really going on, just the score at the end of the game, even with knowledge of the game they don't know responsibilities of each player within the play and what routes are first through 4 as far as reads go. we don't even know the play called on offense or defense it is all guessing i wouldn't want anyone here picking the next GM sorry guys don't want Mara to either. So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 11:53:18 GMT -5
Not true. People wished for Garrett to get canned. The Mara’s fold under fan pressure. Fans don’t get that, and they reward the Mara’s with optimism instead of outrage every time someone gets fired. That’s why we’re a breath away from our 5th HC in 6 years and our 3rd GM in 5. Fans get excited we we hire new people. The Mara’s respond. It’s why Mara wasn’t there for the Strahan ceremony. Even Goodell doesn’t shy away from the boos like John does. Mara was there. He and Tisch were on the stage. They were just unannounced. Better for them |
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