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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 11:55:26 GMT -5
Not true. People wished for Garrett to get canned. The Mara’s fold under fan pressure. Fans don’t get that, and they reward the Mara’s with optimism instead of outrage every time someone gets fired. That’s why we’re a breath away from our 5th HC in 6 years and our 3rd GM in 5. Fans get excited we we hire new people. The Mara’s respond. It’s why Mara wasn’t there for the Strahan ceremony. Even Goodell doesn’t shy away from the boos like John does. Actually the Mara's very rarely fold to fan pressure. ELI.They were there for Strahan just not announced or spoke. This is a Family owed operation all fans know that .If you chose to be a Giants fan you live with it good or bad. Can’t agree with your Eli point. He had a huge fan base following. It was just polarized. The fans that loved him really loved him, and the fans that didn’t really didn’t. Hence the outrage when he got pulled for Geno. You can decide the Mara’s are untouchable. I couldn’t disagree with that more. Not stepping up to the mic on Sunday tells me all I need to know about how untouchable John is.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 11:55:42 GMT -5
Fans are Fans we don't know anything that is really going on, just the score at the end of the game, even with knowledge of the game they don't know responsibilities of each player within the play and what routes are first through 4 as far as reads go. we don't even know the play called on offense or defense it is all guessing i wouldn't want anyone here picking the next GM sorry guys don't want Mara to either. So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 12:02:27 GMT -5
So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Literally the solution. 👍👍👍 If Mara hired a president of football operations and said he’ll support him with all his decisions including if he wants to fire family members, this team would have a much chance at improving quickly.
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Post by Roswell on Nov 29, 2021 12:10:24 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Literally the solution. 👍👍👍 If Mara hired a president of football operations and said he’ll support him with all his decisions including if he wants to fire family members, this team would have a much chance at improving quickly. I'm assuming the Maras are a close knit family since Tim's unfortunate passing. If they could somehow get Chris to consider a new vocation, like oil painting, housewares or, maybe, he could become a travel agent, then there's a scintilla of hope. Until that happens, the Giants are screwed.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 12:12:32 GMT -5
Literally the solution. 👍👍👍 If Mara hired a president of football operations and said he’ll support him with all his decisions including if he wants to fire family members, this team would have a much chance at improving quickly. I'm assuming the Maras are a close knit family since Tim's unfortunate passing. If they could somehow get Chris to consider a new vocation, like oil painting, housewares or, maybe, he could become a travel agent, then there's a scintilla of hope. Until that happens, the Giants are screwed. Yep.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 29, 2021 12:12:58 GMT -5
So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 29, 2021 12:15:03 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. WW1. Thanks for making me snort part of my lunch up into my sinus cavity.
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Post by Roswell on Nov 29, 2021 12:15:17 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. lmao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 12:16:23 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. One of your best!!
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 29, 2021 12:21:13 GMT -5
So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Actually sounds like a very reasonable solution. it would however require John Mara to accept that he is at the heart of the Giants' problems and I'm not sure he would ever go there.....at least not without a lot of therapy.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 12:25:51 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Modern day incognito.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 12:49:14 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Actually sounds like a very reasonable solution. it would however require John Mara to accept that he is at the heart of the Giants' problems and I'm not sure he would ever go there.....at least not without a lot of therapy.
Truthfully I don't follow front office people I know the Ravens and Steelers / Cheifs put a good product out maybe a raid of there front offices but those are 2 guys that have been there and done it at a high level and Brandt seems to be going strong, as far consulting goes it wouldn't be to taxing on him or Bill Polian.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 12:56:47 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. I would nominate you but you have a couple strikes 1. Dress code no Bermuda shorts and Tommy Bahamma shirts at work got that 2.you can't take people by the collar and the seat of their Pants and throw them out the door especially the owners. 3. you can't be drinking on the job especially mad dog 2020. Do we have an agreement if we do your it of course you have to wait for your favorite person to leave..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 13:01:09 GMT -5
I really like Rappaport god can he tell us something we don't know.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 13:22:28 GMT -5
So who do you think SHOULD pick the next GM? An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Gil Brandt?! I got roasted for just mentioning Parcells and Gil Brandt makes Parcells look like a youngster and you like a baby You ask if Brandt has lost his marbles? He’s the one that compared Jones to Peyton and that was 3-4 years ago, that should tell you all you need to know.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 13:33:40 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Gil Brandt?! I got roasted for just mentioning Parcells and Gil Brandt makes Parcells look like a youngster and you like a baby You ask if Brandt has lost his marbles? He’s the one that compared Jones to Peyton and that was 3-4 years ago, that should tell you all you need to know. remember Parcells in his prime drafted Dorian Boose from Ohio state along with trio of other edge guys that never panned out, he was praising Boose like he was gonna be the next great pass rusher. Love Parcells but man when he left her he went to place that could go no where but up and did a decent job never got over the top again, and part of that was his personnel decisions he seems sharp when he was on the Eli Peyton gig. Didn't want them as GMs just get us a guy they respect to come in here and get this thing straight. BB is guiding Mara along.
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Post by coughlinscorner on Nov 29, 2021 13:39:48 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. Do you say the same thing when someone suggests Parcells on here. Pretty sure the Tuna was friendly with Walter Camp.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 13:40:16 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Gil Brandt?! I got roasted for just mentioning Parcells and Gil Brandt makes Parcells look like a youngster and you like a baby You ask if Brandt has lost his marbles? He’s the one that compared Jones to Peyton and that was 3-4 years ago, that should tell you all you need to know. a few days after the Giants drafted Jones we learned Gil Brandt had his lasik eye surgery.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 14:09:01 GMT -5
Polian is old enough to be legally dead. His closest relative is dirt. Great football mind, but if he has any marbles left. They’re certainly scattered all over the place. Also, he’s been on record of saying Gettleman is doing a great job here. That in itself means the man is insane. Gil Brandt would be a great choice, but he has strong ties with the Cowboys. We need men who were born after the first world war. Do you say the same thing when someone suggests Parcells on here. Pretty sure the Tuna was friendly with Walter Camp. Lol, he did indeed. I get it, we need younger people who are more in touch with today’s game which is why I don’t understand why he said Gil would be a great choice when he’s 9 years older than Parcells and over a decade older than Polian
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Post by Blue Hulk on Nov 29, 2021 14:17:00 GMT -5
Unless they are waiting for a GM candidate to free up, we need to get this done right away because I DO NOT WANT all the same scouts to return.
The scout that recommended drafting Saquon should be shown the door..The pro personnel scout that recommends the NFL free agents needs to be shown the door.
The Georgia scout....He needs a promotion...lol...With the exception of Deandre baker, he's been solid..lol
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Post by nyg2 on Nov 29, 2021 14:28:46 GMT -5
"Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." What's interesting is that not only is Joe Judge not on the hot seat, but they seem to want to bring in someone with ties to the Patriots as GM.
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 29, 2021 14:40:42 GMT -5
Do you say the same thing when someone suggests Parcells on here. Pretty sure the Tuna was friendly with Walter Camp. Lol, he did indeed. I get it, we need younger people who are more in touch with today’s game which is why I don’t understand why he said Gil would be a great choice when he’s 9 years older than Parcells and over a decade older than Polian Brandt still has his wits. He still does his yearly mock drafts, and is very involved to what is going on in the league. Parcells and Polian are doing guest appearances, and golf outings. Polian is disqualified, he thinks Gettleman is great. I don’t want that man anywhere near the Giants. He might convince them in giving Dave a lifetime contract, with an option of owning half the team.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 29, 2021 14:48:40 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Some fans need other fans to scapegoat on as well even if they don’t exist,so they lump anyone that isn't an angry fan spewing virtrol at everything and anything into some fictional thing that doesn't exist
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 29, 2021 14:49:54 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Literally the solution. 👍👍👍 If Mara hired a president of football operations and said he’ll support him with all his decisions including if he wants to fire family members, this team would have a much chance at improving quickly. Hire Ozzy Newsome as a consultant
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Post by jaymas on Nov 29, 2021 15:37:42 GMT -5
An outside party with no connection to the Giants not sure if Bill Polian still has his marbles or Gill Brandt if they do thats a start they have forgotten more football then most of these GMs know. Actually sounds like a very reasonable solution. it would however require John Mara to accept that he is at the heart of the Giants' problems and I'm not sure he would ever go there.....at least not without a lot of therapy.
Yeah, the concept is great...but Polian is 78 and Brandt is 89, so like kruunch said, pat WWI births and we're golden with this type of outside consulting.
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Post by jaymas on Nov 29, 2021 15:38:07 GMT -5
Literally the solution. 👍👍👍 If Mara hired a president of football operations and said he’ll support him with all his decisions including if he wants to fire family members, this team would have a much chance at improving quickly. Hire Ozzy Newsome as a consultant Now that would be interest me.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 15:46:33 GMT -5
Lol, he did indeed. I get it, we need younger people who are more in touch with today’s game which is why I don’t understand why he said Gil would be a great choice when he’s 9 years older than Parcells and over a decade older than Polian Brandt still has his wits. He still does his yearly mock drafts, and is very involved to what is going on in the league. Parcells and Polian are doing guest appearances, and golf outings. Polian is disqualified, he thinks Gettleman is great. I don’t want that man anywhere near the Giants. He might convince them in giving Dave a lifetime contract, with an option of owning half the team. Brandt is 90 years old and compared Jones to Peyton. He probably still thinks they wear leather helmets and used two sticks to start a fire when he was wing up. I get your points about Parcells and Polian but hell no to Gil Brandt (not that it would ever happen anyways).
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Post by lt56 on Nov 29, 2021 16:05:05 GMT -5
Kevin Abrams probably end up getting the job which means not much will change
The entire Front Office should go but that won't happen
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 16:16:39 GMT -5
Actually the Mara's very rarely fold to fan pressure. ELI.They were there for Strahan just not announced or spoke. This is a Family owed operation all fans know that .If you chose to be a Giants fan you live with it good or bad. Can’t agree with your Eli point. He had a huge fan base following. It was just polarized. The fans that loved him really loved him, and the fans that didn’t really didn’t. Hence the outrage when he got pulled for Geno. You can decide the Mara’s are untouchable. I couldn’t disagree with that more. Not stepping up to the mic on Sunday tells me all I need to know about how untouchable John is. No , it tells me he has respect for Strahan and didn't want a repeat of the Eli situation.
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Post by mendy on Nov 29, 2021 16:19:48 GMT -5
Kevin Abrams probably end up getting the job which means not much will change The entire Front Office should go but that won't happen So no chance of Abrams getting a different job ?
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