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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 16:23:20 GMT -5
Can’t agree with your Eli point. He had a huge fan base following. It was just polarized. The fans that loved him really loved him, and the fans that didn’t really didn’t. Hence the outrage when he got pulled for Geno. You can decide the Mara’s are untouchable. I couldn’t disagree with that more. Not stepping up to the mic on Sunday tells me all I need to know about how untouchable John is. No , it tells me he has respect for Strahan and didn't want a repeat of the Eli situation. i have to go with CD on this one. Respectfully, he dodged the boos for himself b/c he knew they were coming. Sure, the time is limited but the owner who addresses his fans at his stadium and feels nobody cares than he, sat quietly to save himself.
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Post by lt56 on Nov 29, 2021 16:45:12 GMT -5
Kevin Abrams probably end up getting the job which means not much will change The entire Front Office should go but that won't happen So no chance of Abrams getting a different job ? he stuck around after DG was given the GM job for a reason is what I'm thinking
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 29, 2021 17:40:37 GMT -5
The Gettleman fan club will point out water is not wet. Water can only make something else wet just as the players are bad and not Dave Gettleman. I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Oh there's dozens, maybe hundreds. They're just doing an amazing job of pretending not to exist. So good a job in fact that you actually can't find any posts from them. It's like an eighth wonder of the world or something.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 29, 2021 17:41:36 GMT -5
I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Jmike is defending him hard in another thread.. So there is one! I read that thread. I don't think it says what you think it says. At all.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 29, 2021 18:09:18 GMT -5
the worst GM in Giants history takes a hike. Some might say its 4 years too late but hey. Better late than never
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Post by Martin on Nov 29, 2021 18:36:52 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. T hey should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. They stink because they don't model themselves off of success they model themselves using there own process which is dinosaur level thinking.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 21:01:28 GMT -5
Lol, he did indeed. I get it, we need younger people who are more in touch with today’s game which is why I don’t understand why he said Gil would be a great choice when he’s 9 years older than Parcells and over a decade older than Polian Brandt still has his wits. He still does his yearly mock drafts, and is very involved to what is going on in the league. Parcells and Polian are doing guest appearances, and golf outings. Polian is disqualified, he thinks Gettleman is great. I don’t want that man anywhere near the Giants. He might convince them in giving Dave a lifetime contract, with an option of owning half the team. I was saying as a consultant to find the next GM or president of football operations. Brandt talks to everyone and has extensive knowledge of draft eligible players and the men who are good at finding them.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 21:09:46 GMT -5
I don’t think there’s any members left in that fan club. Oh there's dozens, maybe hundreds. They're just doing an amazing job of pretending not to exist. So good a job in fact that you actually can't find any posts from them. It's like an eighth wonder of the world or something. What took them so long to figure out he sucked? A lot of them did disappear or suddenly started being critical of him after they defended him until as recently as a few weeks ago. Funny how many of us were considered “negative” or “hateful” for criticizing DG starting when he drafted Barkley (for obvious reasons) and now those same people that defended him are saying the same thing we said 4 years ago. Same with Hernandez, Solder, Oma, Lawrence, Peart and about the several other mistakes DG has made along the way.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 21:09:51 GMT -5
Brandt still has his wits. He still does his yearly mock drafts, and is very involved to what is going on in the league. Parcells and Polian are doing guest appearances, and golf outings. Polian is disqualified, he thinks Gettleman is great. I don’t want that man anywhere near the Giants. He might convince them in giving Dave a lifetime contract, with an option of owning half the team. I was saying as a consultant to find the next GM or president of football operations. Brandt talks to everyone and has extensive knowledge of draft eligible players and the men who are good at finding them. Great, he’ll be age 90 by the next draft. Was born in 1932. A short 200 years earlier George Washington was born.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 29, 2021 21:13:01 GMT -5
Brandt still has his wits. He still does his yearly mock drafts, and is very involved to what is going on in the league. Parcells and Polian are doing guest appearances, and golf outings. Polian is disqualified, he thinks Gettleman is great. I don’t want that man anywhere near the Giants. He might convince them in giving Dave a lifetime contract, with an option of owning half the team. I was saying as a consultant to find the next GM or president of football operations. Brandt talks to everyone and has extensive knowledge of draft eligible players and the men who are good at finding them. Do you think Gil uses a phone to talk to them or is still trying to use smoke signals and wondering why he’s not getting any answers?
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 29, 2021 21:14:05 GMT -5
I was saying as a consultant to find the next GM or president of football operations. Brandt talks to everyone and has extensive knowledge of draft eligible players and the men who are good at finding them. Do you think Gil uses a phone to talk to them or is still trying to use smoke signals and wondering why he’s not getting any answers? Passenger pigeons
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 29, 2021 21:14:56 GMT -5
I was saying as a consultant to find the next GM or president of football operations. Brandt talks to everyone and has extensive knowledge of draft eligible players and the men who are good at finding them. Do you think Gil uses a phone to talk to them or is still trying to use smoke signals and wondering why he’s not getting any answers? LOL I wouldn't worry the guy is connected
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Post by cruzsoldier on Nov 29, 2021 21:55:19 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. LMAO... They only let the replaceable or useless parts leave New England. Only a candidate from New England would maybe ok with keeping Joe Judge but it would most definitely be agreed before hand. Again they act like Joe Judge is this great coach most of the time he and the team look overmatched.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 29, 2021 23:41:23 GMT -5
Oh there's dozens, maybe hundreds. They're just doing an amazing job of pretending not to exist. So good a job in fact that you actually can't find any posts from them. It's like an eighth wonder of the world or something. What took them so long to figure out he sucked? A lot of them did disappear or suddenly started being critical of him after they defended him until as recently as a few weeks ago. Funny how many of us were considered “negative” or “hateful” for criticizing DG starting when he drafted Barkley (for obvious reasons) and now those same people that defended him are saying the same thing we said 4 years ago. Same with Hernandez, Solder, Oma, Lawrence, Peart and about the several other mistakes DG has made along the way. I don't know man. I have no idea why anyone would give a crap what some other fan thinks.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 30, 2021 10:59:51 GMT -5
If I am the Giants I would give Scott Pioli the moon and stars to come out of retirement and full control, He turned down an interview when Reese was hired probably knowing they weren't going outside the organization, this time maybe he accepts and cleanses this mess.Take a look at his resume he is the top dog out there.
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Post by jaymas on Nov 30, 2021 11:03:38 GMT -5
If I am the Giants I would give Scott Pioli the moon and stars to come out of retirement and full control, He turned down an interview when Reese was hired probably knowing they weren't going outside the organization, this time maybe he accepts and cleanses this mess.Take a look at his resume he is the top dog out there. Pioli's track record is a bit odd. He was a total failure in KC after he left NE. However as assitant GM for the Falcons he was connected to some good rosters. Still, resigned two years ago, didn't have screaming success after NE, I don't think I'd be excited for something like that.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 30, 2021 11:22:34 GMT -5
If I am the Giants I would give Scott Pioli the moon and stars to come out of retirement and full control, He turned down an interview when Reese was hired probably knowing they weren't going outside the organization, this time maybe he accepts and cleanses this mess.Take a look at his resume he is the top dog out there. Pioli's track record is a bit odd. He was a total failure in KC after he left NE. However as assitant GM for the Falcons he was connected to some good rosters. Still, resigned two years ago, didn't have screaming success after NE, I don't think I'd be excited for something like that. That executive of the decade 2000 to 2010 stands out to me Ilistened to him with Carl Banks and his draft philosophy is interesting and spoke from an executives point of view. I don't know if it's still up Papa and Banks did the interview take a listen if you get chance it's on their pod cast.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 30, 2021 13:11:35 GMT -5
What took them so long to figure out he sucked? A lot of them did disappear or suddenly started being critical of him after they defended him until as recently as a few weeks ago. Funny how many of us were considered “negative” or “hateful” for criticizing DG starting when he drafted Barkley (for obvious reasons) and now those same people that defended him are saying the same thing we said 4 years ago. Same with Hernandez, Solder, Oma, Lawrence, Peart and about the several other mistakes DG has made along the way. I don't know man. I have no idea why anyone would give a crap what some other fan thinks. Well apparently almost everyone here does, including yourself, or you would have never respond to my original post and most of these threads wouldn’t exist.
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 30, 2021 13:43:21 GMT -5
I don't know man. I have no idea why anyone would give a crap what some other fan thinks. Well apparently almost everyone here does, including yourself, or you would have never respond to my original post and most of these threads wouldn’t exist. Discussing the team and caring what some other uninformed peanut gallery member on a fan website thinks are not the same thing at all. Although it's interesting that you think they are.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 30, 2021 14:01:51 GMT -5
Well apparently almost everyone here does, including yourself, or you would have never respond to my original post and most of these threads wouldn’t exist. Discussing the team and caring what some other uninformed peanut gallery member on a fan website thinks are not the same thing at all. Although it's interesting that you think they are. the "likes" have a dopamine addiction and will endlessly post and attack they care so much.
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Post by vinnie on Nov 30, 2021 16:40:33 GMT -5
Well apparently almost everyone here does, including yourself, or you would have never respond to my original post and most of these threads wouldn’t exist. Discussing the team and caring what some other uninformed peanut gallery member on a fan website thinks are not the same thing at all. Although it's interesting that you think they are. Funny that one of the two love birds who liked your post is also one of the most critical of others. Why would he be so critical if he didn’t care? He also happens to be the biggest hypocrite on the board who thinks his shit doesn’t stink and is always complaining about others complaining, so it’s no surprise. Since I’m so uninformed why don’t you fill me on the difference between “discussing” and “caring”? Why would someone publicly disagree with someone else's posts and/or opinion if they didn’t care? Why does one of the clowns who liked your post constantly berate others if he didn’t care? You’re whacked bro but I am looking forward to hearing your non caring response to our discussion.
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 30, 2021 16:52:08 GMT -5
"In the building, there would be some strong candidates to replace him, notably VP of Football Operations and assistant GM Kevin Abrams. Outside the building, the organization will likely look at some candidates with a background in the New England scouting system more in-line with Judge’s thinking, along with others." The Giants are broken. They should 100% be looking into the Ravens front office, Titans, etc. Limiting themselves to Abrams and someone who "knows" Judge. This is why we stink year after year. in-line with Judge's thinking might be a problem based on what we've seen so far...
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 30, 2021 18:30:24 GMT -5
Discussing the team and caring what some other uninformed peanut gallery member on a fan website thinks are not the same thing at all. Although it's interesting that you think they are. the "likes" have a dopamine addiction and will endlessly post and attack they care so much. I don’t know what this means but I’m guessing in your view it applies to some population of posters, which is probably true.
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Post by hogmollies on Nov 30, 2021 18:33:35 GMT -5
I liked his draft this year, his FA signings have been bad.
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Post by hogmollies on Nov 30, 2021 18:34:01 GMT -5
main reason Dave is going is bc of him drafting Saquon and Daniel. bottom line.
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 30, 2021 18:37:17 GMT -5
We're just gonna hire another Mara puppet.
If things don't change, and we keep hiring from within, things WONT change. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!
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Post by Kase1 on Nov 30, 2021 18:39:19 GMT -5
main reason Dave is going is bc of him drafting Saquon and Daniel. bottom line. DG's only chance to stay was if both or either played at a pro bowl caliber this season. Sadly for him, neither did
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 30, 2021 18:41:13 GMT -5
We're just gonna hire another Mara puppet. If things don't change, and we keep hiring from within, things WONT change. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!! Love that line. An even if we don’t hire from within the people doing the hiring have a horrible track record and no indication they’ll improve on it.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 30, 2021 18:51:09 GMT -5
why would DG want to stay? This team sucks overall. He needs to fade to black I guess the paycheck is nice.....
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 30, 2021 19:23:27 GMT -5
Discussing the team and caring what some other uninformed peanut gallery member on a fan website thinks are not the same thing at all. Although it's interesting that you think they are. Funny that one of the two love birds who liked your post is also one of the most critical of others. Why would he be so critical if he didn’t care? He also happens to be the biggest hypocrite on the board who thinks his shit doesn’t stink and is always complaining about others complaining, so it’s no surprise. Since I’m so uninformed why don’t you fill me on the difference between “discussing” and “caring”? Why would someone publicly disagree with someone else's posts and/or opinion if they didn’t care? Why does one of the clowns who liked your post constantly berate others if he didn’t care? You’re whacked bro but I am looking forward to hearing your non caring response to our discussion. I can't help you with your first paragraph, I have zero desire to keep track of who says what, who likes what or who thinks what around here. That would elevate this to a level that it doesn't deserve; it's just an internet fan board. We ain't operating on spinal cords here. In addition, that whole paragraph calls for way more projecting into the thoughts of others than I could ever care to do. Also, I didn't say you were uninformed. That was a general statement about the value of the overall content on football message boards. Don't take it personally, I'm simply stating the obvious. If you're looking for the difference in the definitions of caring and discussing, I'd guess that caring requires a certain level of emotion and passion while discussion likely does not. As to who here cares vs who is simply looking to shoot the breeze about the Giants, I don't know nor do I think it's important. Finally back to your endless speculating about what other posters think and/or why they do what they do, I have no idea my man.
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