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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 15:58:37 GMT -5
Said at this stage Solder is just a better player more physical, said Peart needs to get his hands around someones neck and squeeze lol. This is a sad turn of events when a guy 3 years past his prime is just mentally more prepared to try wreck someone then a young big strong athlete.
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Post by Martin on Dec 2, 2021 16:03:55 GMT -5
Said at this stage Solder is just a better player more physical, said Peart needs to get his hands around someones neck and squeeze lol. This is a sad turn of events when a guy 3 years past his prime is just mentally more prepared to try wreck someone then a young big strong athlete. Sounds like he doesn't have the intensity but the fact that Solder is the better player is scary. The Giants oline is still a hot mess! Unbelievable.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 2, 2021 16:05:20 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson.
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Post by hadenough on Dec 2, 2021 16:07:44 GMT -5
Kind of a bummer to hear that. You either want it or you don’t. That being said…where was the Giants due diligence when drafting this guy. He was a 3rd round pick. I could see not knowing much about a 6th round pick. Come on. One thing film doesn’t show is work ethic.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 2, 2021 16:12:50 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson. The good news is we have a LT. The bad news is we need a LG, a Center, a RG, and a RT.
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 2, 2021 16:13:43 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson. The good news is we have a LT. The bad news is we need a LG a center a RG and a RT. That’s it? Phew, was starting to get concerned.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:14:28 GMT -5
Good thing this guy will be on the board when we draft...
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Post by Martin on Dec 2, 2021 16:15:38 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson. This is telling how bad this organization really is that its been years that they can't put together a mediocre oline. They take a #6 pick QB from a basketball school in duke that has a shit football program then they take a RB who is suppose to be a "generational talent" knowing there oline can't block worth crap. Is there anything this organization can do right? Apparently not.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:15:50 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson. The good news is we have a LT. The bad news is we need a LG, a Center, a RG, and a RT. A nice 1-2 punch would be getting Icky Ekwonu and Tyler Linderbaum in the 1st
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 2, 2021 16:16:00 GMT -5
Good thing this guy will be on the board when we draft... I don’t even have to check his tape. He’s got an impossible name to pronounce. He’s definitely, Giants material.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 2, 2021 16:20:20 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position.
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Post by repeatchamps on Dec 2, 2021 16:23:49 GMT -5
The good news is we have a LT. The bad news is we need a LG, a Center, a RG, and a RT. A nice 1-2 punch would be getting Icky Ekwonu and Tyler Linderbaum in the 1st Yup. I am liking this idea more and more. Are they both projected in round 1? They also need a pass rusher but they drafted Ojulari and Elerson Smith to rush the passer last season and yes they need to add more (also Hutchinson would be hard to pass up but he may be long gone when our 2 picks come up) but not sure they can pass up these two O-line guys if they are both on the board for both 1st round picks if that's where they are projected.
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Post by hadenough on Dec 2, 2021 16:24:13 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position. Peary is talented…he has everything. He’s athletic, smooth, strong, gets position on run blocks. But from the quotes from Judge and Sale…just sounds like he doesn’t want it. That’s not good.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 2, 2021 16:26:16 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position. that’s right!!!! The OL is still good. Peart and Lemieux baby!!!!. All these replacements “genius” as you put it.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Dec 2, 2021 16:26:21 GMT -5
The good news is we have a LT. The bad news is we need a LG a center a RG and a RT. That’s it? Phew, was starting to get concerned. Offensive linemen are not really needed when you have a solid punter.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 2, 2021 16:29:57 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position. Peary is talented…he has everything. He’s athletic, smooth, strong, gets position on run blocks. But from the quotes from Judge and Sale… just sounds like he doesn’t want it. That’s not good. I didn't take that way from those comments at all. It's more a matter of technique and finishing. I mean jeez, Rob Sale cant' tell me Nate Solder has a killer instinct. Aside from killing the offense.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Dec 2, 2021 16:38:50 GMT -5
So Peart is a big Softy....got it.
When will management figure out that you need some bad ass dudes on your team sometimes. High character guys aren't always the best people to go to war with. U need a guy that takes no prisoners during a fight like Gates.
Maybe we can get Richie Incognito to train him...lol
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:40:25 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position. Peary is talented…he has everything. He’s athletic, smooth, strong, gets position on run blocks. But from the quotes from Judge and Sale…just sounds like he doesn’t want it. That’s not good. That's great, except he isn't good enough to start over 1 of the worst OL in the league, so that's a HORRIBLE sign and shouldn't make us feel comfortable moving forward. I love that he is a local kid, but if he doesn't want it, I dont want him
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:43:10 GMT -5
Matt Peart is a 3rd round pick has with 5 career starts. And it’s not like Peart's been horrible, most of us have agreed he's looked better than Solder, they just trust Solder more. It took Andrew Thomas a year for it to start to click and he was one of the top prospects at his position. The difference is that Thomas at least saw the field while working out the kinks. Apparently Peart isnt even good enough for that, WOOF!!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 16:43:36 GMT -5
Solder couldn’t squeeze the water out of a sponge. This is a huge indictment on our young tackle. We have no choice but to look for right tackle this offseason. We still don’t even know what we have with Wilson. Think they are planning on using Wilson at Guard.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 16:47:30 GMT -5
So Peart is a big Softy....got it. When will management figure out that you need some bad ass dudes on your team sometimes. High character guys aren't always the best people to go to war with. U need a guy that takes no prisoners during a fight like Gates. Maybe we can get Richie Incognito to train him...lol This has nothing to do with character Quinton Nelson is a high Character guy and a bad ass mofo, Peart might not have the completive drive he stops when others keep going.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:48:04 GMT -5
A nice 1-2 punch would be getting Icky Ekwonu and Tyler Linderbaum in the 1st Yup. I am liking this idea more and more. Are they both projected in round 1? They also need a pass rusher but they drafted Ojulari and Elerson Smith to rush the passer last season and yes they need to add more (also Hutchinson would be hard to pass up but he may be long gone when our 2 picks come up) but not sure they can pass up these two O-line guys if they are both on the board for both 1st round picks if that's where they are projected. They are both projected to go in the 1st. Ekwonu and Linderbaum are projected to go in the mid 1st. Apparently alot of "insiders" are projecting Linderbaum to be the highest Center drafted in the past 20yrs (so 18th or higher). There are ALOT of pass rushers this draft, that's why I'd prefer going elsewhere if we can't get Thibodaux or Hutchinson
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 2, 2021 16:48:24 GMT -5
This is horseshit. Nate Solder is the weakest link on this line every time he steps on the field. It’s that simple.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 2, 2021 16:48:36 GMT -5
That’s it? Phew, was starting to get concerned. Offensive linemen are not really needed when you have a solid punter. Sadly we might need 1 of those too.... smh
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Post by hadenough on Dec 2, 2021 16:50:14 GMT -5
Peary is talented…he has everything. He’s athletic, smooth, strong, gets position on run blocks. But from the quotes from Judge and Sale… just sounds like he doesn’t want it. That’s not good. I didn't take that way from those comments at all. It's more a matter of technique and finishing. I mean jeez, Rob Sale cant' tell me Nate Solder has a killer instinct. Aside from killing the offense. There’s more to it than what was original posted above. Judge had comments yesterday. Then Sale. Both indicated he’s not working hard enough.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 16:53:49 GMT -5
Kind of a bummer to hear that. You either want it or you don’t. That being said…where was the Giants due diligence when drafting this guy. He was a 3rd round pick. I could see not knowing much about a 6th round pick. Come on. One thing film doesn’t show is work ethic. coming out of UConn he probably looked very much the part dominating lesser opponents and when he did see tough comp he probably competed enough like he does here to hold up. at his six e and athleticism he should be burring guys at least some times i notice he never does. He gets in their way more then blocks them.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 2, 2021 16:58:22 GMT -5
I didn't take that way from those comments at all. It's more a matter of technique and finishing. I mean jeez, Rob Sale cant' tell me Nate Solder has a killer instinct. Aside from killing the offense. There’s more to it than what was original posted above. Judge had comments yesterday. Then Sale. Both indicated he’s not working hard enough. What I wrote I read Sale said specifically that at this point Solder is the better player more physical player.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 2, 2021 16:58:38 GMT -5
Good thing this guy will be on the board when we draft... I don’t even have to check his tape. He’s got an impossible name to pronounce. He’s definitely, Giants material. That's only edge/pass rushers
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 2, 2021 17:00:49 GMT -5
So Peart is a big Softy....got it. When will management figure out that you need some bad ass dudes on your team sometimes. High character guys aren't always the best people to go to war with. U need a guy that takes no prisoners during a fight like Gates. Maybe we can get Richie Incognito to train him...lol This has nothing to do with character Quinton Nelson is a high Character guy and a bad ass mofo, Peart might not have the completive drive he stops when others keep going. Unfortunately this is something you can't find out until after you draft a guy and the gets uncovered......
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 2, 2021 17:01:14 GMT -5
Offensive linemen are not really needed when you have a solid punter. Sadly we might need 1 of those too.... smh That's what the 6th round /UDFAs ars for
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