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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 19, 2021 22:47:29 GMT -5
yup, kill the coach despite a QB who was finished, no offensive line and at one point all the receivers were hurt lol. You guys set standards that no coach could live up too. It’s worse than asking a surgeon to perform an atherectomy with a spoon. “He sucks as a surgeon!!!” Lol The silliness of the Giants’ decision to fire the last 2 HC’s is evidenced by the fact that both guys have gone on to be highly sought after and successful HC’s after they were fired here. Yup it is always good when the whole team revolts then begins to fight one another on national TV during games Rams vs Giants 2017. great way to lead into year 3 when you have a proven keeper of coach like Benny with the good hair. LOL Love this nonsense about the last playoff coach if he didn't have two rookie QBs in the division and a patsy padded schedule the first year with several garbage teams that they Barely beat they would be just like all the other teams the Giants put out there from 2012 on out of the playoffs with 5 or 6 win season. This other non sense that this latest 4 year mess is some how because they kept Manning to long is more fools BS. The main culprit for this stretch of ineptitude is in part, cap hell with bloated longterm contracts to vets from 2016 and not so stellar drafting and failure to build the OL. Manning could have been the one sure thing they had left teamed with OBJ if they ever got the OL right from 2014 to 2018.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 20, 2021 0:44:30 GMT -5
Lol apples and oranges. Hill was a specialty player helping with gimmick plays. The Eli situation was not that. Would you say Eli wasn’t the 26th ranked or worse QB his last 3 seasons as an NFL QB and that was with players around him. We made every excuse in the book for him and he sucked sorry but the truth hurts he was done. I wouldn't say that but I'd be happy to look at your data.
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Post by vinnie on Dec 20, 2021 5:12:01 GMT -5
Ranger, I hope you’re right bud. We all know Judge is getting another year or two, I hope he proves me wrong. i’ve said it before, i’m not certain what Judge is. I feel strongly that no coach wins with this roster though. I firmly believe the loud minority is fickle and call for any coaches head including Coughlin on a regular basis. Get another coach and he’ll be as ridiculed in one season as often as the past three and four including Judge. Mike McCarthy or Rhule would feel the same wrath as Judge has. I’m more empathetic towards a coach armed with a squirt gun than a mob who appears fickle. Certainly, imo, some including yourself are more credible than others. At least you recall your few mistakes or misjudgments while others don’t appear to have that ability. we will see I respect you for standing by your guns. It’s not like you’re the typical homer who blindly supports everyone, which makes your stance all the more interesting. Again, I get he’s had shit to work with, and I understand why Mara wants continuity, but I also think Judge is way in over his head as is Mara. There’s just too many mistakes Judge makes that aren’t personnel related or rookie HC mistakes…IMO. For the last time, I agree with 90% of your posts (which may or may not make you feel less credible, lol) and hopefully you’re the ONE guy that will tell all of us “told ya so” and rub it in our faces how wrong we were about Judge but I don’t get the good vibes from him. Other.than that, I’m sure you will continue to be attacked for your opinion on Judge and I don’t want to contribute. Kudos for not backing down, I’ll continue to bash Judge until he proves me wrong, no offense to you personally, I’m just a very critical person by nature (even on myself).
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Post by jaymas on Dec 20, 2021 10:27:06 GMT -5
I've said it before, and I'll never stop saying it:
Unkempt, retro porn star Ben McAdoo hair = playoff team
Gordon Bombay Mighty Ducks 2 slick back = locker room mutiny
All the guy needed to do was keep the terrible hair.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 20, 2021 10:28:23 GMT -5
Speaking of Metlife
The Giants and Jets combined record over the last 10 seasons: 115-201 (.363). Per Vacchiano
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 20, 2021 10:41:36 GMT -5
Wasn't Eli the QB of the last winning team we've had. So should we pretend Eli was good or did OBJ and the defense carry that team let’s get real. No, Thats exactly accurate OBJ and the defense were the heart and soul. But if the thread is saying McAdoo is the last winning coach which is accurate but giving him a compliment that he had the stones to pull Eli for a washed up ex Jet QB is ridicules.He also had to return him to starter immediately. Then also stating the fact that Eli was the QB for his only winning season is also accurate. And the Giants last winning season. It was stupidity to remove Eli for a less talented QB and make the team weaker. I'm not giving McAdoo any type compliment for being a crap coach. He was awful. I'm giving Mara and Getty compliments for the "stones" to remove McAdoo. Sorry cruz, but there is just no compromise for me imo. I hate McAdoo and hope he fails everywhere he goes.
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Post by Sarcasman on Dec 20, 2021 10:58:48 GMT -5
So should we pretend Eli was good or did OBJ and the defense carry that team let’s get real. No, Thats exactly accurate OBJ and the defense were the heart and soul. But if the thread is saying McAdoo is the last winning coach which is accurate but giving him a compliment that he had the stones to pull Eli for a washed up ex Jet QB is ridicules.He also had to return him to starter immediately. Then also stating the fact that Eli was the QB for his only winning season is also accurate. And the Giants last winning season. It was stupidity to remove Eli for a less talented QB and make the team weaker. I'm not giving McAdoo any type compliment for being a crap coach. He was awful. I'm giving Mara and Getty compliments for the "stones" to remove McAdoo. Sorry cruz, but there is just no compromise for me imo. I hate McAdoo and hope he fails everywhere he goes. That's a bit much. no? It's not his fault some team hired for a job he wasn't qualified for and paid him more than he would ever make elsewhere. A guy is supposed to say no to that?
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Post by Tyrell on Dec 20, 2021 11:02:27 GMT -5
Judge comes close, but no Giants coach "Looked at the tape" like mcadoo when there was no explanation for onfield disaster.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 20, 2021 11:10:02 GMT -5
Judge comes close, but no Giants coach "Looked at the tape" like mcadoo when there was no explanation for onfield disaster. you mean besides the roster?
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Post by Tyrell on Dec 20, 2021 11:13:07 GMT -5
Judge comes close, but no Giants coach "Looked at the tape" like mcadoo when there was no explanation for onfield disaster. you mean besides the roster? whatever it was, you could be sure mcadoo would 'look at the tape' thats all he ever said in post game interviews
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 20, 2021 11:15:47 GMT -5
you mean besides the roster? whatever it was, you could be sure mcadoo would 'look at the tape' thats all he ever said in post game interviews which bothered people and now Judge saying more bothers people. Do those hating the coach bother to look at the players on the field? Why so much roster turnover if it’s the coach? The media didn’t tell ya?????
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 20, 2021 11:44:00 GMT -5
No, Thats exactly accurate OBJ and the defense were the heart and soul. But if the thread is saying McAdoo is the last winning coach which is accurate but giving him a compliment that he had the stones to pull Eli for a washed up ex Jet QB is ridicules.He also had to return him to starter immediately. Then also stating the fact that Eli was the QB for his only winning season is also accurate. And the Giants last winning season. It was stupidity to remove Eli for a less talented QB and make the team weaker. I'm not giving McAdoo any type compliment for being a crap coach. He was awful. I'm giving Mara and Getty compliments for the "stones" to remove McAdoo. Sorry cruz, but there is just no compromise for me imo. I hate McAdoo and hope he fails everywhere he goes. That's a bit much. no? It's not his fault some team hired for a job he wasn't qualified for and paid him more than he would ever make elsewhere. A guy is supposed to say no to that? Yea Sarcas it is. But honestly it's how I feel. Of course I don't want anything to happen to him. But I will rejoice in any failure he endures and be melancholy in any success. Just being honest.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 20, 2021 14:27:56 GMT -5
Stones? Yeah that worked out well for him. Actually it has. He’s no longer part of the one of the worst teams in the NFL and a franchise in complete disarray and in a death spiral. Meanwhile he is part of a competitive team that is winning and on the verge of making the playoffs. Ok. He's not even a coach. He's a consultant, whatever that means.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 20, 2021 14:41:50 GMT -5
Who's this Ben McAdoo you are talking about? The same guy you praised when Eli endorsed him for HC....
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 20, 2021 15:13:52 GMT -5
Who's this Ben McAdoo you are talking about? The same guy you praised when Eli endorsed him for HC.... I never praised nor wanted McAdoo for HC.
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Post by mendy on Dec 20, 2021 17:11:21 GMT -5
The last Giants coach to take this team to the playoffs made his return to Met Life this morning and there was much rejoicing. And Davis Webb's sustained success since McAdoo neglected to start him for Eli back in 2017 has been a continued embarrassment ........Oh wait, never mind. ...........how is Geno Smith doing?
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Post by mendy on Dec 20, 2021 17:13:19 GMT -5
Were you one of the people who thought Eli could still play when McAdoo benched him? Cause he was cleared washed and why we have this issue to this day! Eli acting like a little bitch about being benched when he sucked! Had no problem with Eli getting benched. People losing their mind because Geno Smith played over the immortal Davis Webb, that I had a problem with. That's a definitive statement .
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Post by mendy on Dec 20, 2021 17:16:22 GMT -5
Were you one of the people who thought Eli could still play when McAdoo benched him? Cause he was cleared washed and why we have this issue to this day! Eli acting like a little bitch about being benched when he sucked! Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. According to the Eli non supporters .
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 20, 2021 18:19:39 GMT -5
I've said it before, and I'll never stop saying it: Unkempt, retro porn star Ben McAdoo hair = playoff team Gordon Bombay Mighty Ducks 2 slick back = locker room mutiny All the guy needed to do was keep the terrible hair. So Benny with the good hair was the end of the short lived Giants good fortunes sounds good.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 20, 2021 18:28:49 GMT -5
Were you one of the people who thought Eli could still play when McAdoo benched him? Cause he was cleared washed and why we have this issue to this day! Eli acting like a little bitch about being benched when he sucked! Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. Agreed he gave this team everything he had playing through numerous injuries separated shoulder al kinds of stuff I'm sure it was tough for him to take.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 20:36:47 GMT -5
So should we pretend Eli was good or did OBJ and the defense carry that team let’s get real. No, Thats exactly accurate OBJ and the defense were the heart and soul. But if the thread is saying McAdoo is the last winning coach which is accurate but giving him a compliment that he had the stones to pull Eli for a washed up ex Jet QB is ridicules.He also had to return him to starter immediately. Then also stating the fact that Eli was the QB for his only winning season is also accurate. And the Giants last winning season. It was stupidity to remove Eli for a less talented QB and make the team weaker. I'm not giving McAdoo any type compliment for being a crap coach. He was awful. I'm giving Mara and Getty compliments for the "stones" to remove McAdoo. Sorry cruz, but there is just no compromise for me imo. I hate McAdoo and hope he fails everywhere he goes. Eli was skittish and McAdoo wanted someone mobile to run the offense I think we knew Smith isn’t “better” than Eli but with that OL he was hoping for the ability to extend plays. I didn’t like McAdoo either but he was 100% right about Eli being done and the team needing to draft a QB immediately. Image if we listened to him about MaHomes or Watson. Watson wouldn’t probably even needed to get caught up in the massage scandal I’m sure plenty of Dominican women in NYC would do a little something for a few bucks 🤣
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 20:41:58 GMT -5
Were you one of the people who thought Eli could still play when McAdoo benched him? Cause he was cleared washed and why we have this issue to this day! Eli acting like a little bitch about being benched when he sucked! Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. Eli refused the plan he said if he was taken out at any time he wouldn’t except that. That’s insubordination but he also said just put him to play the whole game. After that remember Eli also said I’m not here to mentor a younger QB. Let’s not act like Eli was with the program cause he wasn’t.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 20:45:13 GMT -5
Were you one of the people who thought Eli could still play when McAdoo benched him? Cause he was cleared washed and why we have this issue to this day! Eli acting like a little bitch about being benched when he sucked! Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. What do you think the Eli crusaders thought about our medium Pepsi’s that were loaded with ice ? 🤣
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Post by Kruunch on Dec 20, 2021 20:47:59 GMT -5
Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. According to the Eli non supporters . What’s an Eli non supporter? They sound like real upstanding individuals. Not like those sock puppet Eli jock straps that roam around..
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 20:52:37 GMT -5
According to the Eli non supporters . What’s an Eli non supporter? They sound like real upstanding individuals. Not like those sock puppet Eli jock straps that roam around.. 🤣 I almost crashed!
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 21:14:31 GMT -5
Eli refused the plan he said if he was taken out at any time he wouldn’t except that. That’s insubordination but he also said just put him to play the whole game. After that remember Eli also said I’m not here to mentor a younger QB. Let’s not act like Eli was with the program cause he wasn’t. Uh yeah, no. None of that actually happened. Sure it did just like the memorabilia gate let’s just act like that didn’t happen either. Just like Robert Kraft and “me love you long time” massage parlor didn’t happen either. They just didn’t make a big deal about it but it most certainly did happen. I’ll even leave you the receipts look at February 3, 2018 Jordan Raanan report…. I know it gets sand in the vaginas of the Eli mafia but it’s all true. I’m sure Eli would “help” because he was a good teammate and I’m being sincere when I say that.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Dec 20, 2021 21:55:55 GMT -5
Sure it did just like the memorabilia gate let’s just act like that didn’t happen either. Just like Robert Kraft and “me love you long time” massage parlor didn’t happen either. They just didn’t make a big deal about it but it most certainly did happen. I’ll even leave you the receipts look at February 3, 2018 Jordan Raanan report…. I know it gets sand in the vaginas of the Eli mafia but it’s all true. I’m sure Eli would “help” because he was a good teammate and I’m being sincere when I say that. You on drugs, son? I just gave you the information with the proof/reference you can try to insult or you can try to disprove my point but you can’t so you try to insult.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 21, 2021 17:25:30 GMT -5
And Davis Webb's sustained success since McAdoo neglected to start him for Eli back in 2017 has been a continued embarrassment ........Oh wait, never mind. ...........how is Geno Smith doing? What other team offered Eli a job after 2018? nevermind 2022...
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Post by FBomb on Dec 21, 2021 17:27:46 GMT -5
I just gave you the information with the proof/reference you can try to insult or you can try to disprove my point but you can’t so you try to insult. 👉👌
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 21, 2021 17:30:43 GMT -5
Eli handled it with class. It was the Eli Crusaders who acted like dramatic high school chicks. Eli refused the plan he said if he was taken out at any time he wouldn’t except that. That’s insubordination but he also said just put him to play the whole game. After that remember Eli also said I’m not here to mentor a younger QB. Let’s not act like Eli was with the program cause he wasn’t. I seem to remember Eli refusing to start the first half of games if he couldnt play every snap and then sobbing at his locker.Then I remember the cuddlers making death threats , threats to burn down the stadium and sell their psls to cowboy fans .....
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