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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 17, 2022 11:49:57 GMT -5
I'm surprised all the back ups don't get time with the 1st team at some point in training. Everyone has a chance to get injured so why not have some familiarity with everyone.. Well some of the backups have already been playing. Not by plan but by need. We have 2 linemen and 2 wr starting currently with the first team that were expected to be backups.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 11:51:37 GMT -5
I'm surprised all the back ups don't get time with the 1st team at some point in training. Everyone has a chance to get injured so why not have some familiarity with everyone.. Well some of the backups have already been playing. Not by plan but by need. We have 2 linemen and 2 wr starting currently with the first team that were expected to be backups. Of course they do I was just commenting on the thoughts of a player getting reps with the 1st team as a bad optic for the current starter..
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Post by kerryisdaman on Aug 17, 2022 11:55:37 GMT -5
Well some of the backups have already been playing. Not by plan but by need. We have 2 linemen and 2 wr starting currently with the first team that were expected to be backups. Of course they do I was just commenting on the thoughts of a player getting reps with the 1st team as a bad optic for the current starter.. I agree with you. This is a non issue. Its just something for some in the media or fans to make in to a big deal.
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Post by jimmieray on Aug 17, 2022 11:58:02 GMT -5
Of course they do I was just commenting on the thoughts of a player getting reps with the 1st team as a bad optic for the current starter.. I agree with you. This is a non issue. Its just something for some in the media or fans to make in to a big deal. Especially the ones from the South.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 17, 2022 12:00:24 GMT -5
I agree with you. This is a non issue. Its just something for some in the media or fans to make in to a big deal. Especially the ones from the South. Exactly
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Aug 17, 2022 13:46:50 GMT -5
He only looked better because he faced the 2nd team D imo. Im ok with either starting may the best man win. I think its Jones.
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Post by miggs on Aug 17, 2022 14:21:58 GMT -5
Taylor almost had 3 picks. Jones 0.
Against the Patriots, I wanted to see Jones drive the Giants down the field. Did that on the Giants first possession. Says a lot about Jones and the Giants offense.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Aug 17, 2022 14:23:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised all the back ups don't get time with the 1st team at some point in training. Everyone has a chance to get injured so why not have some familiarity with everyone.. Probably on competitive teams with established coaches, schemes, and starters, that would be the norm. We also see how starters on those type teams don't get much playing time in the preseason, if the coach feels everything is set and they are executing well in practice. Funny how we get a preseason game against the Bengals, just when they finally get to that point. yeah i'm curious to see how many of their starters will play and also how long ours will.
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Post by miggs on Aug 17, 2022 14:33:33 GMT -5
Could care less if Giants face opponent starters in pre-season. Just want to see Giants offensive and defensive schemes work, and players execute it. Except for A.Robinson, they have so far.
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Post by piddy283 on Aug 17, 2022 14:49:04 GMT -5
Could care less if Giants face opponent starters in pre-season. Just want to see Giants offensive and defensive schemes work, and players execute it. Except for A.Robinson, they have so far. I’m interested to see how Robinson bounces back. He’s being thrown to the wolves right now and should learn a lot from the lumps he’s taking. Hopefully we see steady progress as the season goes on.
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Post by nykiller on Aug 17, 2022 17:55:15 GMT -5
I'm starting to agree with this title. If you look at how both QBs operate in the pocket, Tyrod looked a lot better. However, in the end it's all about results. If Tyrod is not able to outplay Daniel Jones, then he will not be able to win the starting job. If Tyrod wants to win the job, then he has to be consistant. He has to have killer instant like Tom Brady who wants to kill you and absolutly hate losing. He needs to get upset whenever he doesn't make a good play because the best QBs are the ones who are mentally tough and wants to win more than anyone on the field. Tom Brady is that type of QB. The best ever and Tyrod should watch tapes of Tom Brady if he wants to get better.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 17, 2022 18:36:54 GMT -5
oh yes they do. They flood the market with a narrative which has wings. From websites, to radio to the local and national stage. From sports through politics they are significant. To dismiss it is lol. Hard to imagine anyone thinks Judge got fired due to some swarming mob of fans. Judge got axed because he's not head coaching material. He was never a head coach at any level before and when mistakenly given the job based on his gift of gab and little else, he failed miserably. Fans were duped just like the owner. Myself included. We all wanted him to be the guy in the original press conference but he wasn't. He was outcoached at every turn. He's probably a very capable special teams coach. But he coaches a scared game. Glad he's gone. Daboll is not Judge. Daboll seemingly has a much better connection with the team's players and modern day football. Judge knew what to say, not what to do. Seemed like a good guy … just had no clue what he was doing.
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Post by Roswell on Aug 17, 2022 19:25:44 GMT -5
Hard to imagine anyone thinks Judge got fired due to some swarming mob of fans. Judge got axed because he's not head coaching material. He was never a head coach at any level before and when mistakenly given the job based on his gift of gab and little else, he failed miserably. Fans were duped just like the owner. Myself included. We all wanted him to be the guy in the original press conference but he wasn't. He was outcoached at every turn. He's probably a very capable special teams coach. But he coaches a scared game. Glad he's gone. Daboll is not Judge. Daboll seemingly has a much better connection with the team's players and modern day football. Judge knew what to say, not what to do. Seemed like a good guy … just had no clue what he was doing. Well said.
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Post by miggs on Aug 17, 2022 20:00:02 GMT -5
Confident that A..Robinson will be a very good player. Have more confidence in him playing slot cornerback that's filled by Holmes. Hope he just needs time to adjust to playing the outside cornerback position.
Hope Patriots game is a wake-up game for him.
Flott will be a good cornerback as well.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 17, 2022 22:13:47 GMT -5
Taylor almost had 3 picks. Jones 0. Against the Patriots, I wanted to see Jones drive the Giants down the field. Did that on the Giants first possession. Says a lot about Jones and the Giants offense. Are they playing horse shoes?
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Post by Speedman on Aug 17, 2022 23:05:02 GMT -5
If Taylor were to be the starter for the whole season we would probably get the number one pick in the draft.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 18, 2022 7:56:31 GMT -5
I'm starting to agree with this title. If you look at how both QBs operate in the pocket, Tyrod looked a lot better. However, in the end it's all about results. If Tyrod is not able to outplay Daniel Jones, then he will not be able to win the starting job. If Tyrod wants to win the job, then he has to be consistant. He has to have killer instant like Tom Brady who wants to kill you and absolutly hate losing. He needs to get upset whenever he doesn't make a good play because the best QBs are the ones who are mentally tough and wants to win more than anyone on the field. Tom Brady is that type of QB. The best ever and Tyrod should watch tapes of Tom Brady if he wants to get better. Taylor will not be winning any starting job. He will get the job if Jones gets hurt or performs poorly. There is no competition for the starting QB job on the NYGs. Based on Jones' past injury history Taylor will see playing time. As a fan I hope Taylor never has to play.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 18, 2022 12:22:41 GMT -5
If Taylor were to be the starter for the whole season we would probably get the number one pick in the draft. Nice hypothetical. Here’s reality: with Jones as the starter we were slotted in the 4th, 11th and 5th positions. Using your logic Jones is wretched, right No. If he stays healthy he is much better than Taylor.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 18, 2022 12:28:15 GMT -5
Nice hypothetical. Here’s reality: with Jones as the starter we were slotted in the 4th, 11th and 5th positions. Using your logic Jones is wretched, right No. If he stays healthy he is much better than Taylor. maybe....we dont really even know that. potentially yes but that reality has yet to be seen.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 18, 2022 12:36:11 GMT -5
No. If he stays healthy he is much better than Taylor. maybe....we dont really even know that. potentially yes but that reality has yet to be seen. Most of Taylor’s passes looked terrible last week. He is not a good choice for a staring QB.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 18, 2022 13:10:11 GMT -5
maybe....we dont really even know that. potentially yes but that reality has yet to be seen. Most of Taylor’s passes looked terrible last week. He is not a good choice for a staring QB. we all know that and his career as a back proves that. The only thing Jones has proved is that he the tools but cant put it all together and gets hurt often. There is no QB competition. Jones will start and its up to him to get it done at much higher level then he has been and he can't not miss more than a couple of games.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 18, 2022 13:22:56 GMT -5
No. If he stays healthy he is much better than Taylor. maybe....we dont really even know that. potentially yes but that reality has yet to be seen. Who would you rather have as the starter?
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Post by GameTime on Aug 18, 2022 14:48:35 GMT -5
maybe....we dont really even know that. potentially yes but that reality has yet to be seen. Who would you rather have as the starter? Jones because he is trying to become the franchise QB. silly question
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Post by Speedman on Aug 18, 2022 15:16:18 GMT -5
Who would you rather have as the starter? Jones because he is trying to become the franchise QB. silly question It would only be a silly question if you had faith in Jones.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 18, 2022 15:24:34 GMT -5
Jones because he is trying to become the franchise QB. silly question It would only be a silly question if you had faith in Jones. I dig Jones and want nothing more than for him to succeed. His situation hasnt been less than ideal the past 3 years and add in his injuries and he is still a question. In year 4 QBs do not get the leeway they were afforded the prior years. It doesnt matter anymore about the OL, coaches, WRs, etc. He either gets it done or he'll be on another team next season. I give him a 25% chance to become the franchise QB he was drafted to be. He has a steep hill to climb.
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 18, 2022 15:40:49 GMT -5
if we end up going with Taylor he may win more games than Jones but the issue with him is that he isn't part of the future and sooner rather than later we will have draft an early round QB and cut ties with both him and Jones...
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Post by Martin on Aug 18, 2022 15:50:04 GMT -5
Decision making after 1 preseason game is crazy . Lets see where this develops. How about after the Jet game we re-evaluate the whole preseason picture. How about we get input from the new HC and GM who have the most to lose in this process. I heard Dabol say we will play the players who are the best and if that means D Jones is the starter then they feel he gives the team the best chance of winning. If its TT then they think he's there man. I don't believe Schoen or Dabol have any loyalty to Daniel Jones. I believe their loyalty is to win!
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Post by snyder55 on Aug 18, 2022 16:20:20 GMT -5
Decision making after 1 preseason game is crazy . Lets see where this develops. How about after the Jet game we re-evaluate the whole preseason picture. How about we get input from the new HC and GM who have the most to lose in this process. I heard Dabol say we will play the players who are the best and if that means D Jones is the starter then they feel he gives the team the best chance of winning. If its TT then they think he's there man. I don't believe Schoen or Dabol have any loyalty to Daniel Jones. I believe their loyalty is to win! at this point I see Tyrod Taylor as the best QB between him and Jones, it all comes down to whether you're looking for wins in a rebuild season or building for the future and its certain that Taylor is not the future...
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Post by miggs on Aug 18, 2022 18:48:00 GMT -5
I had privilege of listening to SF 49er's HC Bill Walsh. Learned a lot from him. Judge just a blowhard who spoke constant gibberish.
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Post by Speedman on Aug 18, 2022 18:48:49 GMT -5
It would only be a silly question if you had faith in Jones. I dig Jones and want nothing more than for him to succeed. His situation hasnt been less than ideal the past 3 years and add in his injuries and he is still a question. In year 4 QBs do not get the leeway they were afforded the prior years. It doesnt matter anymore about the OL, coaches, WRs, etc. He either gets it done or he'll be on another team next season. I give him a 25% chance to become the franchise QB he was drafted to be. He has a steep hill to climb. He gets it done this year.
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