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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 7, 2023 16:08:05 GMT -5
Yup. Question now is what amount is guaranteed in 2023 yeah cause i wana know how much money of the 55 we'll have left to spend
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 16:08:54 GMT -5
I personally think that this is a horrible idea by the Giants and has John Mara written all over it. However, I'm not going to pout and cry about me not getting my way. I hope that it all works out and that we can build a Super Bowl winner going against every single current trend on how that is done. Let's go Giants. I'm guessing the team protected itself in this deal.
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Post by hadenough on Mar 7, 2023 16:10:15 GMT -5
Strapped in Year 2...motto of the John Mara NYG
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 7, 2023 16:11:06 GMT -5
Im hearing $35M MORE in incentives... Jesus.
$195M potential here...
$160M contract
Whats the guaranteed?
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 16:11:38 GMT -5
Yup. Question now is what amount is guaranteed in 2023 yeah cause i wana know how much money of the 55 we'll have left to spend For now it is 45 million since Saquon is franchise tagged. Subtracting Daniel Jones' guaranteed 2023 money is next to figure out.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:11:39 GMT -5
Wait, $40M per didn't get it done? What's the additional $35M in upside? a whole lot of rushing shit, pardon my language ๐ Heโs definitely getting paid for his legs too!
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 16:13:42 GMT -5
Wait, $40M per didn't get it done? What's the additional $35M in upside? Probably a lot of the performance based incentives. Statistical milestones, winning playoff games, reaching a super bowl etc. You are probably right but $35M of them? That's crazy.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 7, 2023 16:13:58 GMT -5
I personally think that this is a horrible idea by the Giants and has John Mara written all over it. However, I'm not going to pout and cry about me not getting my way. I hope that it all works out and that we can build a Super Bowl winner going against every single current trend on how that is done. Let's go Giants. At the very least I'm sure he let Schoen know that he wants Jones back, which is what he has said in public so not exactly a "conspiracy theory".
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Post by mendy on Mar 7, 2023 16:14:08 GMT -5
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:14:20 GMT -5
Probably a lot of the performance based incentives. Statistical milestones, winning playoff games, reaching a super bowl etc. You are probably right but $35M of them? That's crazy. have you seen him run the ball in crunch time?
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Post by mikethenygfan on Mar 7, 2023 16:14:30 GMT -5
This and a barkley tag were best case scenario. Now we expect nothing less than playoffs and even playoff wins.
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Post by njsean on Mar 7, 2023 16:15:00 GMT -5
if you said it before the Colts game that would be even more impressive ๐ Trust me...It's not impressive at all.ย Pretty much what we all thought. Thatโs not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows itโs best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldnโt see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now weโre stuck riding this out. I wouldnโt be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 16:16:22 GMT -5
Trust me...It's not impressive at all. Pretty much what we all thought. Thatโs not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows itโs best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldnโt see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now weโre stuck riding this out. I wouldnโt be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too. They probably didn't come close to the tag amount. It depends on the guaranteed money and the structure. I'm guessing the first year would be about $20mm in cap hit tops.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 7, 2023 16:16:45 GMT -5
Hopefully they can get out of it after two years. Mediocrity pays nice in the NFL. hopefully he continues to improve and plays well enough to justify it.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:17:03 GMT -5
Trust me...It's not impressive at all.ย Pretty much what we all thought. Thatโs not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows itโs best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldnโt see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now weโre stuck riding this out. I wouldnโt be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too. ๐คซ๐คซ๐คซ๐คซ
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 16:17:12 GMT -5
Trust me...It's not impressive at all. Pretty much what we all thought. Thatโs not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows itโs best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldnโt see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now weโre stuck riding this out. I wouldnโt be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too. I think it will probably be 80-110 guaranteed. Maybe some incentives for winning playoffs.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 16:18:00 GMT -5
Thatโs not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows itโs best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldnโt see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now weโre stuck riding this out. I wouldnโt be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too. I think it will probably be 80-110 guaranteed. Maybe some incentives for winning playoffs. I say closer to 80
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 16:18:43 GMT -5
This and a barkley tag were best case scenario. Now we expect nothing less than playoffs and even playoff wins. Need to know the guaranteed money that will impact the remaining 45 million since Saquon is now franchise tagged. It's not going to be the exact same roster from last year as several guys are free agents that need to be re-signed or replaced and it can't be all draft picks doing the replacing. Also, the schedule will likely be tougher.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:20:05 GMT -5
This and a barkley tag were best case scenario. Now we expect nothing less than playoffs and even playoff wins. Need to know the guaranteed money that will impact the remaining 45 million since Saquon is now franchise tagged. It's not going to be the exact same roster from last year as several guys are free agents that need to be re-signed or replaced. Also, the schedule will likely be tougher. we also have a draft coming up to add potential impact players on rookie contracts
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Post by allnygin on Mar 7, 2023 16:20:14 GMT -5
welp its done. Time for danny greed to put his big boy pants on and win us a championship. Every excuse used while he was on the rookie contract is out the window. He wanted the bag, he got it. Now earn it.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:21:13 GMT -5
welp its done. Time for danny greed to put his big boy pants on and win us a championship. Every excuse used while he was on the rookie contract is out the window. He wanted the bag, he got it. Now earn it. โdanny greedโ omg ๐๐
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 7, 2023 16:22:12 GMT -5
yeah cause i wana know how much money of the 55 we'll have left to spend For now it is 45 million since Saquon is franchise tagged. Subtracting Daniel Jones' guaranteed 2023 money is next to figure out. so 45 including Jones or take out from what he's guaranteed for 23?
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Post by SG88 on Mar 7, 2023 16:23:56 GMT -5
I personally think that this is a horrible idea by the Giants and has John Mara written all over it. However, I'm not going to pout and cry about me not getting my way. I hope that it all works out and that we can build a Super Bowl winner going against every single current trend on how that is done. Let's go Giants. I'm guessing the team protected itself in this deal. I would certainly hope so. I hope that he ends up being worth the money.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:24:43 GMT -5
I'm guessing the team protected itself in this deal. I would certainly hope so. I hope that he ends up being worth the money. in 3 years you will be calling him great.
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 7, 2023 16:25:04 GMT -5
Yup. Question now is what amount is guaranteed in 2023 thats the real question..
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Post by SG88 on Mar 7, 2023 16:25:23 GMT -5
welp its done. Time for danny greed to put his big boy pants on and win us a championship. Every excuse used while he was on the rookie contract is out the window. He wanted the bag, he got it. Now earn it. I agree with all that you said except for him being greedy. It's a business and he has to do what he has to do. People go into business to make money, not friends ๐
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Post by SG88 on Mar 7, 2023 16:25:44 GMT -5
I would certainly hope so. I hope that he ends up being worth the money. in 3 years you will be calling him great. I truly hope that you're right.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 7, 2023 16:27:02 GMT -5
a lot of money...it better work out no excuses from Fans using the same excuses of "Oh His Line..." "His Receivers..." none of that will work now when you're getting Elite Level Money
of course I hope everything works out and he continue to get better under Daboll and Kafka and prove he is worth that money
Now that is done, time to load up on Talent around him need to bring in 2-3 Receivers for him and at least 1 of them need to be a legit #1 Receiver and I don't see them getting that with the #25 Pick in the Draft so might have to make a Trade
Barkley gets tagged I'm assuming
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 16:27:25 GMT -5
No way Schoen was letting this mfer hit the market in any way shape or form. Man this is really exciting. You guys are going to experience some special shit over the length of this contract.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 7, 2023 16:27:25 GMT -5
welp its done. Time for danny greed to put his big boy pants on and win us a championship. Every excuse used while he was on the rookie contract is out the window. He wanted the bag, he got it. Now earn it. I agree with all that you said except for him being greedy. It's a business and he has to do what he has to do. People go into business to make money, not friends ๐ Plus he can buy friends now.
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