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Post by nyg2 on Mar 7, 2023 17:00:52 GMT -5
Nope, I’ll just watch the Giants continue to be mediocre with the rest of you. Happy for you, Gunner and Kerry though, now you guys can get back to your circle jerk without having to worry about what the Giants would do with Jones. And if they win a SB with Jones you'll be nowhere to be found. Go suck down a Colt 45.Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail.
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Post by jb456 on Mar 7, 2023 17:00:54 GMT -5
What does $35 mill in upside mean? Tell me they don't have an additional $35 million in incentives...please...no The contract only has $82M guaranteed money, it's fine.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 7, 2023 17:01:39 GMT -5
Nope, I’ll just watch the Giants continue to be mediocre with the rest of you. Happy for you, Gunner and Kerry though, now you guys can get back to your circle jerk without having to worry about what the Giants would do with Jones. secondary frustration is truly a woman’s sport Oh I believe you, I’m sure you would know and at least women pay their debts which is something you don’t know.
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Post by TEM on Mar 7, 2023 17:02:50 GMT -5
Good for him
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 17:03:20 GMT -5
secondary frustration is truly a woman’s sport Oh I believe you, I’m sure you would know and at least women pay their debts which is something you don’t know. another move from the woman’s playbook. you are good at this.
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Post by vinnie on Mar 7, 2023 17:03:32 GMT -5
And if they win a SB with Jones you'll be nowhere to be found. Go suck down a Colt 45.Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail. It’s alright, he’s just showing everyone the dbag he is.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 7, 2023 17:05:43 GMT -5
Cowboys franchised Pollard...Does this mean Dak is out? No way they spend that much on two RB's
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 7, 2023 17:06:02 GMT -5
And if they win a SB with Jones you'll be nowhere to be found. Go suck down a Colt 45.Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail. Colt 45 may not be the best beer in the world (ok malt liquor, sue me), but it ain't that bad.....
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Post by vinnie on Mar 7, 2023 17:06:08 GMT -5
Oh I believe you, I’m sure you would know and at least women pay their debts which is something you don’t know. another move from the woman’s playbook. you are good at this. The board was a lot nicer when you disappeared for several months after not owning up to your bet. Pretty unbelievable you had the gall to come back.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 17:07:25 GMT -5
Cowboys franchised Pollard...Does this mean Dak is out? No way they spend that much on two RB'sDak? The QB?
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 7, 2023 17:07:29 GMT -5
Trust me...It's not impressive at all. Pretty much what we all thought. That’s not true. I read plenty of posts about how the Giants would not likely go above the franchise tag. Some said they expected somewhere around 25. Plenty of others saying Jones would likely take it because he knows it’s best shot to be able to play under this staff. But I friggin just couldn’t see any of that. I knew Jones would squeeze the Giants. And he did. And now we’re stuck riding this out. I wouldn’t be so confident that anything less than 120 is guaranteed too. You should have read everyone's posts then. By season's end, that's where most of the darts were landing. I don't think anyone thought $25M by season's end and while $35M is probably more appropriate, the market is what the market is.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 17:08:01 GMT -5
Cowboys franchised Pollard...Does this mean Dak is out? No way they spend that much on two RB's maybe pay cuts coming with no backend money attached, just straight cap reduction.
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 17:08:29 GMT -5
Some of that money will be converted to a signing bonus that does not count against the cap.... It counts but is prorated across all 4 years. How they structure that is key. They need to get creative here. They need a lot of help and draft picks will not be enough.
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Post by jaymas on Mar 7, 2023 17:10:24 GMT -5
Probably a lot of the performance based incentives. Statistical milestones, winning playoff games, reaching a super bowl etc. You are probably right but $35M of them? That's crazy. Pretty normal stuff, and we don't know what the triggers are.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 17:10:58 GMT -5
It counts but is prorated across all 4 years. How they structure that is key. They need to get creative here. They need a lot of help and draft picks will not be enough. I think they have done pretty well so they must have it mapped out. For all the "greedy" crap put out in the media $82 in guaranteed money is not a lot.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Mar 7, 2023 17:11:00 GMT -5
And if they win a SB with Jones you'll be nowhere to be found. Go suck down a Colt 45.Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail. I meant the beer jackass.
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 7, 2023 17:11:21 GMT -5
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Mar 7, 2023 17:11:46 GMT -5
Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail. It’s alright, he’s just showing everyone the dbag he is. I meant the beer jackass, not putting a gun in your mouth.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 7, 2023 17:13:05 GMT -5
I'm Wrong...it is a Good Deal after the Details are coming out now
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 7, 2023 17:13:10 GMT -5
Not only is this a scummy thing to say, if he actually did this you would be going to jail. Colt 45 may not be the best beer in the world (ok malt liquor, sue me), but it ain't that bad..... "Every time's the right time"
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 17:13:20 GMT -5
How they structure that is key. They need to get creative here. They need a lot of help and draft picks will not be enough. I think they have done pretty well so they must have it mapped out. For all the "greedy" crap put out in the media $82 in guaranteed money is not a lot. Am sure they do. What the whole world is now waiting for is how much cap room of the 45 mill left do they have to work with. Free agency starts soon so they better get that straightened out quickly.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 7, 2023 17:13:50 GMT -5
Would love to hear from Abrams on how it’s been working with this regime compared to the last.
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 7, 2023 17:14:22 GMT -5
I'm Wrong...it is a Good Deal after the Details are coming out now Either way, they have to figure out this year's cap hit quickly. Free agency is coming quite soon.
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Post by Jomo on Mar 7, 2023 17:17:21 GMT -5
These boards generated enough heat on this topic over the past 2 months to light up Norway for a year.
All of that only to arrive at the most likely scenario we all understood from the start.
Ha!
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 7, 2023 17:19:37 GMT -5
I think they have done pretty well so they must have it mapped out. For all the "greedy" crap put out in the media $82 in guaranteed money is not a lot. Am sure they do. What the whole world is now waiting for is how much cap room of the 45 mill left do they have to work with. Free agency starts soon so they better get that straightened out quickly. I can't say anything for sure but my guess is that things will look like this cap hit wise in 2023 DJ: 18-20 Barkley: 7-10 That puts them at a combined 25-30 which is very nice since we have over $50 in cap room. We were never going to build a contender in Unrestricted FA. UFA are almost always overpriced. We will use it but teams have to build through the draft.
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 7, 2023 17:22:22 GMT -5
So, Schoen negotiated a huge cap/dead money hit in 2025 to be able to spend $13 million this year. Really hope this works out. If not, the Giants will be paying $25+ million for a QB to not play in 3 years.
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 17:24:43 GMT -5
Run it Back
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Post by presumablygunner on Mar 7, 2023 17:25:15 GMT -5
So, Schoen negotiated a huge cap/dead money hit in 2025 to be able to spend $13 million this year. Really hope this works out. If not, the Giants will be paying $25+ million for a QB to not play in 3 years. it will
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Post by vinnie on Mar 7, 2023 17:27:06 GMT -5
It’s alright, he’s just showing everyone the dbag he is. I meant the beer jackass, not putting a gun in your mouth. Oh thank god for the clarification, I’ll stop crying and put the gun away.
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Post by Martin on Mar 7, 2023 17:28:54 GMT -5
These boards generated enough heat on this topic over the past 2 months to light up Norway for a year. All of that only to arrive at the most likely scenario we all understood from the start. Ha! Yes a lot of wasted typing but its now in the books. Time to build this team in the trenches! a couple of weapons also.
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