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Post by piddy283 on Nov 21, 2023 8:48:28 GMT -5
How do we feel about the Oregon version of Bo Nix, cause I gotta tell ya, he's rocketing up there for me. Him and Jayden Daniels making serious gains on Williams and Maye in my brain.
I still need to watch his game from this weekend, but first impressions were good. Based on the eye test, I think he belongs in the conversation with Maye and Penix and may ultimately go before both. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/post/862374 |
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Post by Speedman on Nov 21, 2023 12:00:50 GMT -5
How do we feel about the Oregon version of Bo Nix, cause I gotta tell ya, he's rocketing up there for me. Him and Jayden Daniels making serious gains on Williams and Maye in my brain.
I still need to watch his game from this weekend, but first impressions were good. Based on the eye test, I think he belongs in the conversation with Maye and Penix and may ultimately go before both. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/post/862374How old is Nix? |
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 21, 2023 12:12:28 GMT -5
I still need to watch his game from this weekend, but first impressions were good. Based on the eye test, I think he belongs in the conversation with Maye and Penix and may ultimately go before both. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/post/862374How old is Nix? Nix and Penix are both 23, and Daniels turns 23 in a couple weeks. |
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Post by Speedman on Nov 21, 2023 13:09:40 GMT -5
Nix and Penix are both 23, and Daniels turns 23 in a couple weeks. Thank you |
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Post by Analyst on Nov 21, 2023 20:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 21, 2023 21:17:10 GMT -5
at least should they make that commitment, it won't be based on one game in the Sr Bowl, where they fell fool bloom in luv.... |
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 22, 2023 6:25:56 GMT -5
First Impression: Potential Top-15 Talent Pros: - Prototypical size - Seems to work through progressions well - Tough to bring down, able to throw through contact - Mobile enough within pocket - Good athlete, enough speed to get outside pocket - Arm strength is NFL calibre, can attack all 3 levels - Late game composure, game tying drive/OT win Nice pass. Watched the first half against Clemson yesterday and Maye had another nice throw on the first drive of the game. You can see it at the 0:48 mark below:
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 26, 2023 10:00:39 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs?
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Post by TEM on Nov 26, 2023 12:44:34 GMT -5
2002 (bad)
Round 1: David Carr (No. 1), Joey Harrington (No. 3), Patrick Ramsey (No. 32)
Round 3: Josh McCown (No. 81)
Round 4: David Garrard (No. 108), Rohan Davey (No. 117)
Round 5: Randy Fasani (No. 137), Kurt Kittner (No. 158), Brandon Doman (No. 163), Craig Nall (No. 164)
Round 6: J.T. O'Sullivan (No. 186), Steve Bellisari (No. 205)
Round 7: Seth Burford (No. 216), Jeff Kelly (No. 232), Ronald Curry (No. 235), Wes Pate (No. 236)
2007 (Wow bad)
Round 1: JaMarcus Russell (No. 1), Brady Quinn (No. 22)
Round 2: Kevin Kolb (No. 36), John Beck (No. 40), Drew Stanton (No. 43)
Round 3: Trent Edwards (No. 92)
Round 4: Isaiah Stanback (No. 103)
Round 5: Jeff Rowe (No. 151), Troy Smith (No. 174)
Round 6: Jordan Palmer (No. 205)
Round 7: Tyler Thigpen (No. 217)
2010 (bad)
Round 1: Sam Bradford (No. 1), Tim Tebow (No. 25)
Round 2: Jimmy Clausen (No. 48)
Round 3: Colt McCoy (No. 85)
Round 4: Mike Kafka (No. 122)
Round 5: John Skelton (No. 155), Jonathan Crompton (No. 168)
Round 6: Rusty Smith (No. 176), Dan LeFevour (No. 181), Joe Webb (No. 199), Tony Pike (No. 204)
Round 7: Levi Brown (No. 209), Sean Canfield (No. 239), Zac Robinson (No. 250)
2015 (bad)
Round 1: Jameis Winston (No. 1), Marcus Mariota (No. 2)
Round 3: Garrett Grayson (No. 75), Sean Mannion (No. 89)
Round 4: Bryce Petty (No. 103)
Round 5: Brett Hundley (No. 147)
Round 7: Trevor Siemian (No. 250)
I see no different than the above.
I fail to see what most on the board see in this class.
I see mid 2nd rounder picks and lower.
2024 Class (eligible)
Jayden Daniels
Caleb Williams
Drake Maye.
Bo Nix
Michael Penix Jr.
J.J. McCarthy
Quinn Ewers
Riley Leonard
Spencer Rattler Legacy liked him. I trust his judgment (I would usea day 3 pick)
Jordan Travis
Cameron Ward
K.J. Jefferson
Tyler Van Dyke
Michael Pratt
Sam Hartman
Joe Milton III
Kyle McCord
Dillon Gabriel
Grayson McCall
Will Howard
Devin Leary
Jaxson Dart
D.J. Uiagalelei
Austin Reed
Taulia Tagovailoa
Phil Jurkovec
Graham Mertz
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 26, 2023 21:36:23 GMT -5
Rough weekend for the hyped up QBs.
What's with Penix's pouting and running off the field with a jacket over his head at the end of the game with no walk to the center to greet the opponent?
He couldn't even watch the game winning field goal his kicker made?
When I think of a Giants QB I think tough - Phill Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Dave Brown, Kerry Collins, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Daniel Jones...not this.
People want this guy drafted early in the 1st?
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 28, 2023 9:03:16 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? I’d say so. Based on what I’ve seen I don’t know why he isn’t being lumped in with Williams as the potential QB1. |
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Post by Nite on Nov 28, 2023 9:14:30 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? Possibly. Dude has a great arm and very fast. Like Michael Vick fast. And throws TDs. Yes I know thats a no-no among some here lol. Lots a good choices here |
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Post by Nite on Nov 28, 2023 9:17:01 GMT -5
Rough weekend for the hyped up QBs. What's with Penix's pouting and running off the field with a jacket over his head at the end of the game with no walk to the center to greet the opponent? He couldn't even watch the game winning field goal his kicker made? When I think of a Giants QB I think tough - Phill Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Dave Brown, Kerry Collins, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Daniel Jones...not this. People want this guy drafted early in the 1st? I know what to do. Lets draft a RB and extend diet ELI for another 4 years.. Howz zat sound? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 28, 2023 9:25:50 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? I’d say so. Based on what I’ve seen I don’t know why he isn’t being lumped in with Williams as the potential QB1. the more choices the better the odds on grabbing one. Would be nice. Spoke to a few LSU fans who, I’m sure are bias, feel he is legit. |
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 28, 2023 9:58:10 GMT -5
2002 (bad) Round 1: David Carr (No. 1), Joey Harrington (No. 3), Patrick Ramsey (No. 32) Round 3: Josh McCown (No. 81) Round 4: David Garrard (No. 108), Rohan Davey (No. 117) Round 5: Randy Fasani (No. 137), Kurt Kittner (No. 158), Brandon Doman (No. 163), Craig Nall (No. 164) Round 6: J.T. O'Sullivan (No. 186), Steve Bellisari (No. 205) Round 7: Seth Burford (No. 216), Jeff Kelly (No. 232), Ronald Curry (No. 235), Wes Pate (No. 236) 2007 (Wow bad) Round 1: JaMarcus Russell (No. 1), Brady Quinn (No. 22) Round 2: Kevin Kolb (No. 36), John Beck (No. 40), Drew Stanton (No. 43) Round 3: Trent Edwards (No. 92) Round 4: Isaiah Stanback (No. 103) Round 5: Jeff Rowe (No. 151), Troy Smith (No. 174) Round 6: Jordan Palmer (No. 205) Round 7: Tyler Thigpen (No. 217) 2010 (bad) Round 1: Sam Bradford (No. 1), Tim Tebow (No. 25) Round 2: Jimmy Clausen (No. 48) Round 3: Colt McCoy (No. 85) Round 4: Mike Kafka (No. 122) Round 5: John Skelton (No. 155), Jonathan Crompton (No. 168) Round 6: Rusty Smith (No. 176), Dan LeFevour (No. 181), Joe Webb (No. 199), Tony Pike (No. 204) Round 7: Levi Brown (No. 209), Sean Canfield (No. 239), Zac Robinson (No. 250) 2015 (bad) Round 1: Jameis Winston (No. 1), Marcus Mariota (No. 2) Round 3: Garrett Grayson (No. 75), Sean Mannion (No. 89) Round 4: Bryce Petty (No. 103) Round 5: Brett Hundley (No. 147) Round 7: Trevor Siemian (No. 250) I see no different than the above. I fail to see what most on the board see in this class. I see mid 2nd rounder picks and lower. 2024 Class (eligible) Jayden Daniels Caleb Williams Drake Maye. Bo Nix Michael Penix Jr. J.J. McCarthy Quinn Ewers Riley Leonard Spencer Rattler Legacy liked him. I trust his judgment (I would usea day 3 pick) Jordan Travis Cameron Ward K.J. Jefferson Tyler Van Dyke Michael Pratt Sam Hartman Joe Milton III Kyle McCord Dillon Gabriel Grayson McCall Will Howard Devin Leary Jaxson Dart D.J. Uiagalelei Austin Reed Taulia Tagovailoa Phil Jurkovec Graham Mertz You may ultimately be right, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. The classes listed are some of the worst of all time. This class may not have as many elite prospects as once reported, but I feel like there’s starting talent. Assuming they have what it takes between the ears, I think the first four QBs on your list can be starters in the right system….maybe the first five. I think Williams and Daniels have the tools to be successful in nearly any system, while Nix, Maye, and Penix seem like they’ll be a bit more dependent on everything around them. I haven’t watched the QBs from Texas or Michigan yet, and there are some lesser known prospects I’m interested in, but overall I’ve been fairly impressed with what I’ve seen. |
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 28, 2023 10:03:27 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? Possibly. Dude has a great arm and very fast. Like Michael Vick fast. And throws TDs. Yes I know thats a no-no among some here lol. Lots a good choices here He looks like Lamar Jackson with a better arm. My jaw dropped the first time I watched him. |
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Post by Analyst on Nov 28, 2023 10:43:04 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? Possibly. Dude has a great arm and very fast. Like Michael Vick fast. And throws TDs. Yes I know thats a no-no among some here lol. Lots a good choices here Im still trying to decide if he is the next Lamar Jackson or next Justin Fields. Thats the "type" of QB he will be. The mold. Lamar being the much much better QB than Justin Fields. Lamar can read defenses and throw with accuracy. Justin, still struggles with that quite a bit. Not sure he ever gets there. What scares me about liking Jayden Daniels as much as I do right now, is seeing how great his WRs are, much like what Fields had at Ohio State. Nabers and Thomas are top 10 WR prospects in this draft class. Im trying to unbiasly watch him and know that, and wonder if he can do what he is doing through the air without those 2 star WRs. Love his ability to run though. If you love DJs running ability, you will flip your lid watching this kid run circles around defenders. Vick, yes similarities there. Daniels is my #1 QB right now. So much raw potential with this kid. We need to have him sit back a year though. Bring in a solid vet. The best thing of all too, is he has a rocket arm to throw the ball through the December winds in the Meadowlands. |
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 28, 2023 10:47:12 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? Been hearing more buzz about him than the other QBs lately and Heisman talk. He also has a WR with more yards than Marvin Harrison Jr. He doesn’t cry after games and runs better than Jones so two pluses in my book…But I’ve seen him listed anywhere between 170 and 215 pounder…I wonder what he really weighs. Isn’t he having a much better season than Anthony Richardson had last year when he got drafted in the top 5? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 28, 2023 11:22:09 GMT -5
Is Jayden Daniels the sleeper of this group of QBs? Been hearing more buzz about him than the other QBs lately and Heisman talk. He also has a WR with more yards than Marvin Harrison Jr. He doesn’t cry after games and runs better than Jones so two pluses in my book…But I’ve seen him listed anywhere between 170 and 215 pounder…I wonder what he really weighs. Isn’t he having a much better season than Anthony Richardson had last year when he got drafted in the top 5? I did not like Richardson at Fla so I have to think Daniel’s is going early. He’s certainly mobile, has a nice arm and his competition was against the SEC. |
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Post by Nite on Nov 28, 2023 18:36:01 GMT -5
Possibly. Dude has a great arm and very fast. Like Michael Vick fast. And throws TDs. Yes I know thats a no-no among some here lol. Lots a good choices here Im still trying to decide if he is the next Lamar Jackson or next Justin Fields. Thats the "type" of QB he will be. The mold. Lamar being the much much better QB than Justin Fields. Lamar can read defenses and throw with accuracy. Justin, still struggles with that quite a bit. Not sure he ever gets there. What scares me about liking Jayden Daniels as much as I do right now, is seeing how great his WRs are, much like what Fields had at Ohio State. Nabers and Thomas are top 10 WR prospects in this draft class. Im trying to unbiasly watch him and know that, and wonder if he can do what he is doing through the air without those 2 star WRs. Love his ability to run though. If you love DJs running ability, you will flip your lid watching this kid run circles around defenders. Vick, yes similarities there. Daniels is my #1 QB right now. So much raw potential with this kid. We need to have him sit back a year though. Bring in a solid vet. The best thing of all too, is he has a rocket arm to throw the ball through the December winds in the Meadowlands. I'm not sure if he is the next Michael Vick. He has the potential to be. The reading of defenses could be a problem, though in the few games I watched him play he did make a few quick nice decisions with an accurate throw. Its up to the Giants scouting staff to properly evaluate. What he DOES bring to the table is the quickness and elusiveness of a Michael Vick. If we draft him other team would have to game plan for him alone, leaving other weapons unaccounted for. That would be a 2 for 1 type advantage for us. The other good news is that Bo Nix is up there, Michael Penix Jr (best deep ball in FBS) is there, Caleb Williams will be in the mix and JJ McCarthy who I think could be a decent game manager type... Don't forget Sam Hartman who is quietly having a great season at Notre Dame who I project to be a 2nd rnder. The more good news is that we have a HC who can develop a young QB. He did that with Josh Allen and to a degree DJ. Can you imagine what he can do with one of this class? |
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Post by TEM on Nov 29, 2023 19:09:37 GMT -5
2002 (bad) Round 1: David Carr (No. 1), Joey Harrington (No. 3), Patrick Ramsey (No. 32) Round 3: Josh McCown (No. 81) Round 4: David Garrard (No. 108), Rohan Davey (No. 117) Round 5: Randy Fasani (No. 137), Kurt Kittner (No. 158), Brandon Doman (No. 163), Craig Nall (No. 164) Round 6: J.T. O'Sullivan (No. 186), Steve Bellisari (No. 205) Round 7: Seth Burford (No. 216), Jeff Kelly (No. 232), Ronald Curry (No. 235), Wes Pate (No. 236) 2007 (Wow bad) Round 1: JaMarcus Russell (No. 1), Brady Quinn (No. 22) Round 2: Kevin Kolb (No. 36), John Beck (No. 40), Drew Stanton (No. 43) Round 3: Trent Edwards (No. 92) Round 4: Isaiah Stanback (No. 103) Round 5: Jeff Rowe (No. 151), Troy Smith (No. 174) Round 6: Jordan Palmer (No. 205) Round 7: Tyler Thigpen (No. 217) 2010 (bad) Round 1: Sam Bradford (No. 1), Tim Tebow (No. 25) Round 2: Jimmy Clausen (No. 48) Round 3: Colt McCoy (No. 85) Round 4: Mike Kafka (No. 122) Round 5: John Skelton (No. 155), Jonathan Crompton (No. 168) Round 6: Rusty Smith (No. 176), Dan LeFevour (No. 181), Joe Webb (No. 199), Tony Pike (No. 204) Round 7: Levi Brown (No. 209), Sean Canfield (No. 239), Zac Robinson (No. 250) 2015 (bad) Round 1: Jameis Winston (No. 1), Marcus Mariota (No. 2) Round 3: Garrett Grayson (No. 75), Sean Mannion (No. 89) Round 4: Bryce Petty (No. 103) Round 5: Brett Hundley (No. 147) Round 7: Trevor Siemian (No. 250) I see no different than the above. I fail to see what most on the board see in this class. I see mid 2nd rounder picks and lower. 2024 Class (eligible) Jayden Daniels Caleb Williams Drake Maye. Bo Nix Michael Penix Jr. J.J. McCarthy Quinn Ewers Riley Leonard Spencer Rattler Legacy liked him. I trust his judgment (I would usea day 3 pick) Jordan Travis Cameron Ward K.J. Jefferson Tyler Van Dyke Michael Pratt Sam Hartman Joe Milton III Kyle McCord Dillon Gabriel Grayson McCall Will Howard Devin Leary Jaxson Dart D.J. Uiagalelei Austin Reed Taulia Tagovailoa Phil Jurkovec Graham Mertz You may ultimately be right, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. The classes listed are some of the worst of all time. This class may not have as many elite prospects as once reported, but I feel like there’s starting talent. Assuming they have what it takes between the ears, I think the first four QBs on your list can be starters in the right system….maybe the first five. I think Williams and Daniels have the tools to be successful in nearly any system, while Nix, Maye, and Penix seem like they’ll be a bit more dependent on everything around them. I haven’t watched the QBs from Texas or Michigan yet, and there are some lesser known prospects I’m interested in, but overall I’ve been fairly impressed with what I’ve seen. I see it as the. They are the unimpressive hyped. |
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Post by Analyst on Dec 1, 2023 17:05:06 GMT -5
Nix v Penix tonight
Must watch if you are serious about the QBs
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Post by piddy283 on Dec 1, 2023 18:42:37 GMT -5
Nix v Penix tonight Must watch if you are serious about the QBs Was just coming on to post the same thing. I’m excited to see them play. If we decide to go the QB route both should be available whenever we pick. |
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Post by piddy283 on Dec 1, 2023 18:58:13 GMT -5
Two other players to watch tonight are Odunze (WR-Wash) and Bucky Irving (RB-Oregon)….and the entire Oregon OL. Any and all would look good in blue.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 2, 2023 8:01:36 GMT -5
Nix v Penix tonight Must watch if you are serious about the QBs both played pretty well, in a hard fought game. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 3, 2023 10:30:49 GMT -5
3 things #1 - Durability #2 - Strong Arm #3 - Mobility Thats what we need with our next QB. Someone who is available, someone who can throw a rocket in the Meadowlands December weather, and someone who can bail on a jailbreak, roll out, keeps his head up, and throws a dart. for Penix there, not sure if his arm is as strong as has been reported but he does get it where it needs to be in wind and rain. Durability and mobility are definitely strikes. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 3, 2023 10:36:22 GMT -5
I think Daniels is gonna climb if he does good when they get I'm on the wet board and tests like everyone thinks he will athletically.
My bet is he will fly up boards a month or so before the draft like Richardson did last year.
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Post by piddy283 on Dec 3, 2023 11:23:56 GMT -5
I think Daniels is gonna climb if he does good when they get I'm on the wet board and tests like everyone thinks he will athletically. My bet is he will fly up boards a month or so before the draft like Richardson did last year. Agreed. Based on what I’ve seen I think it becomes the Williams, Daniels, and Maye sweepstakes. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 9, 2023 22:02:29 GMT -5
So much for Daniels being under the radar
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Post by piddy283 on Dec 10, 2023 10:44:37 GMT -5
So much for Daniels being under the radar It was bound to happen. He’s playing out of his mind. Latest QB to have a meteoric rise his last season. I got a bit burned out watching random games of QBs when I didn’t know our draft position, so I still have more QBs to watch, but at this point I have Daniels and Williams neck and neck for QB1. His weight is my only real concern. I’ve seen him listed at 215lbs which isn’t terrible. Hopefully it’s a legit 215lbs with room to grow and not something closer to 200lbs. |
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