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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 6, 2023 11:28:23 GMT -5
The Mets offseason to date:
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 6, 2023 11:50:06 GMT -5
Well the Mets draft slot was just announced, they're picking 19th dropping 10 spots.
This is what I was talking about the last month of the season. This is why I wanted the Mets to lose as many games as possible the last month. The worse 6 teams are protected from the penalties of exceeding the salary restrictions Major League Baseball has imposed. Baseball no cap but penalties for spending too much. lol
Anyway when the Mets were the 7th worse record if they lost they would have been protected and had one of the first 6 picks in the draft. The first 6 picks are protected no penalties. Instead they finished with the 9th worse record and the 10 spot drop is the penalty for exceeding the spending cap that doesn't exist. So the Mets are picking 19th instead of top 6.
This is what I'm talking about with the NY Giants why win these meaningless games when we could pick 4th or possibly even 3rd by winning we could fall to 8th or 9th.
Why in the world would we not do what's best for the upcoming drafts.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 6, 2023 15:30:51 GMT -5
Well the Mets draft slot was just announced, they're picking 19th dropping 10 spots. This is what I was talking about the last month of the season. This is why I wanted the Mets to lose as many games as possible the last month. The worse 6 teams are protected from the penalties of exceeding the salary restrictions Major League Baseball has imposed. Baseball no cap but penalties for spending too much. lol Anyway when the Mets were the 7th worse record if they lost they would have been protected and had one of the first 6 picks in the draft. The first 6 picks are protected no penalties. Instead they finished with the 9th worse record and the 10 spot drop is the penalty for exceeding the spending cap that doesn't exist. So the Mets are picking 19th instead of top 6. This is what I'm talking about with the NY Giants why win these meaningless games when we could pick 4th or possibly even 3rd by winning we could fall to 8th or 9th. Why in the world would we not do what's best for the upcoming drafts. I think tanking is largely discussed by fans and rarely practiced by teams. Not never, but rarely. It’s hard to sell pro athletes on losing on purpose. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 7, 2023 8:39:44 GMT -5
Soto would have been a nice fit.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 7, 2023 11:32:08 GMT -5
Soto would have been a nice fit. It seems like they have their heart set on Yamamoto. And at the end of the day I won’t be surprised to see them get outbid. I think Stearns wants to prove this winner can be built without just flexing Cohens wallet. So to that end we probably just have to sit back and be patient. I get the idea that most quality MLB teams are built organically these days(ATL, HOU, ARZ) And the big spenders have seen mixed results , although it’s hard to argue against Philly and LA, the Yanks, Pads, Us last year will caution that spending doesn’t equal results necessarily. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 7, 2023 12:00:40 GMT -5
Soto would have been a nice fit. It seems like they have their heart set on Yamamoto. And at the end of the day I won’t be surprised to see them get outbid. I think Stearns wants to prove this winner can be built without just flexing Cohens wallet. So to that end we probably just have to sit back and be patient. I get the idea that most quality MLB teams are built organically these days(ATL, HOU, ARZ) And the big spenders have seen mixed results , although it’s hard to argue against Philly and LA, the Yanks, Pads, Us last year will caution that spending doesn’t equal results necessarily. have some Yankee friends who feel Cashman is a genius 🙄. Desperate Padres to dump Soto and no market. They still feel their dynasty was all home grown. Really? |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 7, 2023 12:12:42 GMT -5
It seems like they have their heart set on Yamamoto. And at the end of the day I won’t be surprised to see them get outbid. I think Stearns wants to prove this winner can be built without just flexing Cohens wallet. So to that end we probably just have to sit back and be patient. I get the idea that most quality MLB teams are built organically these days(ATL, HOU, ARZ) And the big spenders have seen mixed results , although it’s hard to argue against Philly and LA, the Yanks, Pads, Us last year will caution that spending doesn’t equal results necessarily. have some Yankee friends who feel Cashman is a genius 🙄. Desperate Padres to dump Soto and no market. They still feel their dynasty was all home grown. Really? Stanton, Cole, Rizzo, etc. just because Judge was home grown doesn’t mean anything. Yanks are trying to buy it. I think the funniest thing will be when Soto signs somewhere else after the season. If him as part of that Pads lineup last year didn’t get it done, what’s it going to mean to that Yanks lineup. I’m sure it will be nice that his occasional fly ball to right will leave the stadium. But beyond that, what? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 7, 2023 12:28:42 GMT -5
have some Yankee friends who feel Cashman is a genius 🙄. Desperate Padres to dump Soto and no market. They still feel their dynasty was all home grown. Really? Stanton, Cole, Rizzo, etc. just because Judge was home grown doesn’t mean anything. Yanks are trying to buy i t. I think the funniest thing will be when Soto signs somewhere else after the season. If him as part of that Pads lineup last year didn’t get it done, what’s it going to mean to that Yanks lineup. I’m sure it will be nice that his occasional fly ball to right will leave the stadium. But beyond that, what? oh, that would be hilarious 😂 |
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Post by SG88 on Dec 7, 2023 12:41:58 GMT -5
It seems like they have their heart set on Yamamoto. And at the end of the day I won’t be surprised to see them get outbid. I think Stearns wants to prove this winner can be built without just flexing Cohens wallet. So to that end we probably just have to sit back and be patient. I get the idea that most quality MLB teams are built organically these days(ATL, HOU, ARZ) And the big spenders have seen mixed results , although it’s hard to argue against Philly and LA, the Yanks, Pads, Us last year will caution that spending doesn’t equal results necessarily. have some Yankee friends who feel Cashman is a genius 🙄. Desperate Padres to dump Soto and no market. They still feel their dynasty was all home grown. Really? I'm a Yankess fan and feel that Cashman is a 🤡. |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 7, 2023 15:23:39 GMT -5
have some Yankee friends who feel Cashman is a genius 🙄. Desperate Padres to dump Soto and no market. They still feel their dynasty was all home grown. Really? I'm a Yankess fan and feel that Cashman is a 🤡. I have plenty of Yanks friends. Definitely a mixed bag of opinions. NY is very what have you done for me lately. Love getting Stanton, mixed bag results. Loved getting Cole, he’s been as advertised. Now Soto. He’s clearly trying to do his best for the team. I can respect that. You got Soto. We have gotten some bargain basement roster fillers so far. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 8, 2023 21:53:21 GMT -5
Soto would have been a nice fit. Oh God YES ! Don't know what he would have cost in a trade, but we would have had to give up at least 2 1st rd picks plus I would think. Didn't know Soto's in his last year on that contract. We wait a year and then go after him. Only cost millions of dollars not future ballplayers. Soto is only 25 he's just starting to reach his prime years. Judge was a rookie at 25. Soto batting 3rd or 4th in Met lineup would be more than we could hope for. Say Soto 4th followed and protected by Alonzo 5th in the lineup followed by a power bat in the sixth spot to protect Pete. Say first 3 bats Nimmo, McNeil, Lindor, Soto, Pete. Dare I dream. I would love the Mets to sign a top bat this off season to go with much needed pitching. Starting pitching our #1 need, bullpen our #2 need imho. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 8, 2023 22:06:37 GMT -5
The Mets might have gotten lucky signing Jorge Lopez today. In 2022 he was as good a reliever as their was in baseball. That was his only monster year the O's traded him to Minny and he still was strong but not like in Baltimore. I wanted the Mets to trade for him so bad at the deadline.
We got him for 2 million on a 1 year deal. Very low risk with a possible very high upside. Something happened nobody talking about it. Rumors of a breakdown surfaced but were quickly shut down.
Lopez early years were wasted as a starter. Hit and miss plus traded 2 or 3 times. Has averaged a KO for every inning pitched.
Hoping for the best I loved this guy in 2022. If he could get back there as our set up man a lot of problems would be solved.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 8, 2023 22:20:49 GMT -5
I think it was a great move for the Yanks. It gives judge some much needed protection in the lineup. Obviously it will depend on if they can sign him long term next year.
The Mets biggest problem is not really hitting but starting and reliever pitching. I'm not disappointed they didn't get Soto.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 9, 2023 9:39:48 GMT -5
I think it was a great move for the Yanks. It gives judge some much needed protection in the lineup. Obviously it will depend on if they can sign him long term next year. The Mets biggest problem is not really hitting but starting and reliever pitching. I'm not disappointed they didn't get Soto. it’s an incredible move for the Yankees and the market was right. There were no other suitors although I am surprised Boston didn’t try. I can’t envision a scenario the Yabka don’t sign him long term. Our Mets? Not sure what the plan is after spending so wildly. Love the prospects yet it’s a weird blend of youth and some aged players who need more to win now. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 9, 2023 21:48:24 GMT -5
I think it was a great move for the Yanks. It gives judge some much needed protection in the lineup. Obviously it will depend on if they can sign him long term next year. The Mets biggest problem is not really hitting but starting and reliever pitching. I'm not disappointed they didn't get Soto. it’s an incredible move for the Yankees and the market was right. There were no other suitors although I am surprised Boston didn’t try. I can’t envision a scenario the Yabka don’t sign him long term. Our Mets? Not sure what the plan is after spending so wildly. Love the prospects yet it’s a weird blend of youth and some aged players who need more to win now. At this point I don't see enough either to take the Mets seriously this season. Not enough reliable players and a whole bunch of dare I use the word " Potential ". A trio of hope and a prayer at 3B. Another couple of who know's what we got in right field. And the pitching starting and relieving is God help us pitching arms. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 10, 2023 10:13:33 GMT -5
Even this Yomo pitcher. Bidding war and these guys so often get TJS and none of us really know who this guy is.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 11, 2023 12:15:14 GMT -5
Even this Yomo pitcher. Bidding war and these guys so often get TJS and none of us really know who this guy is. Well Senga worked out nicely. Someone is paying this guy, hopefully us. |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 12, 2023 14:17:04 GMT -5
Mauricio torn ACL. Come on man.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 12, 2023 21:06:43 GMT -5
Mauricio torn ACL. Come on man. Well that's a damn shame. Hell of a way to start off the ne season. |
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 13, 2023 8:55:50 GMT -5
Mauricio torn ACL. Come on man. Some things never change. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 21, 2023 23:09:52 GMT -5
Really?
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 22, 2023 0:12:18 GMT -5
Mets offered 325 for less years than the Dodgers. Yamamoto simply used them to drive up his price with the Dodgers. Never had any intention of signing. Used Cohens wallet to his advantage. Welcome to America, go **** yourself.
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Post by TEM on Dec 22, 2023 8:57:12 GMT -5
Right now, our starting Rotation 8 pitchers has an average ERA of 4.05.
Kodai Senga......2.98
Jose Quintana....3.57
Luis Severino.....3.79
Adrian Houser.....4.12
Tylor Megill......... 4.7
David Peterson....5.51
Joey Lucchesi.....4.07
Jose Butto ..........4.7
We will be the same as last year without back end of the rotation help.
Go get Blake Snell. (pay the man)
If not.
Eppler needs to make a play to bring Marcus Stroman back. OR Julio Urías OR Hyun Jin Ryu all 3 would fit the need.
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 22, 2023 10:09:38 GMT -5
Mets offered 325 for less years than the Dodgers. Yamamoto simply used them to drive up his price with the Dodgers. Never had any intention of signing. Used Cohens wallet to his advantage. Welcome to America, go **** yourself. Tiki thinks the Mets dodged a bullet. He's watched him pitch. He says he's too small to last, has a very long windup, and that's ridiculous money for a player who has not proven he can succeed in MLB. I guess we'll see. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Dec 22, 2023 19:47:53 GMT -5
Well missing out on Yamamoto leaves us holding a bag of nothing. We supposedly offered the same money 325 mil over 12 years with opt outs. But he took a team that won 100 games over us who won 57 games.
So our starting pitching looks a lot weaker without that big arm. Doesn't look like they're targeting any of the other big pitchers in FA.
So we now have 325 mil sitting around that we didn't spend. Can we please sign Pete Alonzo long term and get another bat or 2 into this lineup ?
They still need a DH, rumors about Turner (he's 39 yrs old) could play a game here and there at 3B. Turner a 1 yr contract. I would rather they go Bellinger (28 yrs old) plus he could play OF including Center to spell Nimmo and try and keep him healthy. Maybe both.
If we had another catcher that could hit we could save Alvarez legs some games as a DH. We had a #1 pick I think 2 yrs ago Parretta is his name I think he's a catcher. Don't know if he's ready.
We need to get stronger if were seriously going to compete. Otherwise the talk about 2025 looks more the target.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jan 11, 2024 10:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by SG88 on Jan 11, 2024 21:38:45 GMT -5
So what exactly are we getting in Stroman?
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jan 11, 2024 23:05:48 GMT -5
So what exactly are we getting in Stroman? Ground ball pitcher which is good when any decent hit ball to right field is leaving the stadium. |
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Post by DandyDon on Jan 25, 2024 20:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 2, 2024 15:47:53 GMT -5
Spent as much money as the could and sit in silence.
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