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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 11, 2024 20:01:18 GMT -5
Yes he was. Was due $24m this year. Pretty nice contract for him. He's paid like one of the best pass rushers in the league, better perform like it. Seems like it gave us a little leverage in the trade value. Since we had to pay him QB money lol. I don't know of him and knew he was good but since he played on the Panthers never really paid attention to him. My first thoughts are he is like a Justin Tuck type DE? Which would be great. I would say Osi type. |
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 11, 2024 20:02:54 GMT -5
Our current front 7: LDE: A’Shawn Robinson NT: Dexter Lawrence RDE: Jihad Ward WLB: Brian Burns WILB: Bobby Okereke RILB: Micah McFadden SLB: Kayvon Thibodeaux The front 7 looks a lot better, the only question is if Schoen tries to upgrade the Dline (Ward/Robinson)? Imagine Schoen takes T'Vondre Sweat (who’s 6’4 366lbs) in the 2nd round, would teams be able to run the ball against Sweat and Lawrence. Lol. |
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Post by McCherry on Mar 11, 2024 20:10:10 GMT -5
Our current front 7: LDE: A’Shawn Robinson NT: Dexter Lawrence RDE: Jihad Ward WLB: Brian Burns WILB: Bobby Okereke RILB: Micah McFadden SLB: Kayvon Thibodeaux The front 7 looks a lot better, the only question is if Schoen tries to upgrade the Dline (Ward/Robinson)? Robinson and Ward are not under contract. |
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Post by nyg2 on Mar 11, 2024 20:15:50 GMT -5
Our current front 7: LDE: A’Shawn Robinson NT: Dexter Lawrence RDE: Jihad Ward WLB: Brian Burns WILB: Bobby Okereke RILB: Micah McFadden SLB: Kayvon Thibodeaux The front 7 looks a lot better, the only question is if Schoen tries to upgrade the Dline (Ward/Robinson)? Robinson and Ward are not under contract. Good catch, I was using ESPN’s depth chart since they already included the Brian Burns trade, have no idea why they didn’t remove those guys. |
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Post by moecoastie on Mar 11, 2024 20:30:20 GMT -5
Was Burns going to be a FA or was he under contract?
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 11, 2024 20:31:31 GMT -5
Was Burns going to be a FA or was he under contract? Under contract but he wanted out. According to Panther fans, he dogged it at times last year.
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Post by moecoastie on Mar 11, 2024 20:40:40 GMT -5
Was Burns going to be a FA or was he under contract? Under contract but he wanted out. According to Panther fans, he dogged it at times last year.
ah, he was tagged! |
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Post by Modog on Mar 11, 2024 20:47:08 GMT -5
5 year 150m is rich. Is he a top 10 DE?
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Post by SG88 on Mar 11, 2024 20:50:42 GMT -5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 11, 2024 20:52:03 GMT -5
WOW!!!! 2nd and a 5th for a PROVEN edge guy, OK It's good shit by the NYG. That's the kind of move I want them making This is what I want money being moved to premium positions I was getting worried |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 11, 2024 20:58:41 GMT -5
Our current front 7: LDE: A’Shawn Robinson NT: Dexter Lawrence RDE: Jihad Ward WLB: Brian Burns WILB: Bobby Okereke RILB: Micah McFadden SLB: Kayvon Thibodeaux The front 7 looks a lot better, the only question is if Schoen tries to upgrade the Dline (Ward/Robinson)? Ward suck |
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 11, 2024 21:01:10 GMT -5
So, does this mean NYG has him under contract for 5 or extended to 6 years?
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 11, 2024 21:01:51 GMT -5
So, does this mean NYG has him under contract for 5 or extended to 6 years? 5 |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 11, 2024 21:04:42 GMT -5
Seems like it gave us a little leverage in the trade value. Since we had to pay him QB money lol. I don't know of him and knew he was good but since he played on the Panthers never really paid attention to him. My first thoughts are he is like a Justin Tuck type DE? Which would be great. I would say Osi type. You saw this early that someone suggested it well they had some info bit probably had to keep the down low. |
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Post by moecoastie on Mar 11, 2024 21:06:32 GMT -5
Who's better Josh Allen (DE) or Brian Burns? Funny enough Giants could have had either in 2019 at 6th, but they took Dan Jones Which one plays better in a wide-9 scheme? |
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 11, 2024 21:07:30 GMT -5
Guys,
This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense.
I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 11, 2024 21:30:00 GMT -5
Guys, This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense. I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 11, 2024 21:35:43 GMT -5
Guys, This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense. I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field. He better be. He has the 2nd highest AAV in team history. And the guy who has the 1st sucks. |
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 12, 2024 7:40:06 GMT -5
Guys, This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense. I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field. Im hopeful it elevates Thibs play to the next level. He is no longer THE pass rusher. Could be quite a tandem. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 12, 2024 7:55:33 GMT -5
Guys, This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense. I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field. Im hopeful it elevates Thibs play to the next level. He is no longer THE pass rusher. Could be quite a tandem. Our new Dc's strength was apparently getting after the QB. Im sure he pushed for this one. Now we focus on offense early in the draft. I think we are probably in line for WR or QB as of now. |
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Post by idkaname on Mar 12, 2024 8:33:24 GMT -5
Guys, This guy is a friggin monster. It's like Aaron Donald joining our team....in his prime. He was lost in Carolina. A great player on a poor defense. I can't tell you how huge I think this guy is to our team. He will be all over the field. He better be. He has the 2nd highest AAV in team history. And the guy who has the 1st sucks. how is that relevant when the cap is higher than it's ever been ? |
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Post by shocknaweny on Mar 12, 2024 8:53:29 GMT -5
Back to the days of Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck and Strahan absolutely menacing the opposing quarterback
That's our identity YES let's get back to THAT !!
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Post by Analyst on Mar 12, 2024 9:15:47 GMT -5
He better be. He has the 2nd highest AAV in team history. And the guy who has the 1st sucks. how is that relevant when the cap is higher than it's ever been ? Probably because regardless of the cap increasing, it means we paid him to be a great player. So he better be a great player. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 12, 2024 9:17:30 GMT -5
How come we didnt franchise then trade McKinney similar to this? Seems like we could have gotten some good compensation for him with the teams that were bidding for him.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 12, 2024 9:23:19 GMT -5
He better be. He has the 2nd highest AAV in team history. And the guy who has the 1st sucks. how is that relevant when the cap is higher than it's ever been ? And in two more years of FA there will be at least two more guys who get a higher AAV… |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 12, 2024 9:24:08 GMT -5
how is that relevant when the cap is higher than it's ever been ? Probably because regardless of the cap increasing, it means we paid him to be a great player. So he better be a great player. Free agency: Pay elite money for great players. Pay great money for good players. Pay good money for average players. That’s the way it’s always been. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Mar 12, 2024 9:25:08 GMT -5
How come we didnt franchise then trade McKinney similar to this? Seems like we could have gotten some good compensation for him with the teams that were bidding for him. Because Edge is an elite position in the NFL. Safety is not. |
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Post by idkaname on Mar 12, 2024 9:38:33 GMT -5
how is that relevant when the cap is higher than it's ever been ? Probably because regardless of the cap increasing, it means we paid him to be a great player. So he better be a great player. He's already the best pass rusher to be a Giant in over a decade. |
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Post by dream8 on Mar 12, 2024 9:44:18 GMT -5
Am I seeing this correct. We are paying an 8 sack 50 tackle player 30 million a year. Yeah, ya gotta look a little deeper than just surface level numbers like that. Kayvon had 11.5 sacks last year. I like Kayvon's longterm outlook but there is not a single GM in the league that would take Kayvon over Burns. He didn't get close to the number of chances to rush the passer as other top EDGEs playing for the worst team in the league. He's generated pressure consistently since coming into the league. But if you do want surface level numbers, those look pretty good too: Defenders with 46+ sacks and 59+ TFL since 2019: Nick Bosa Maxx Crosby Aaron Donald Myles Garrett T.J. Watt Brian Burns |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Mar 12, 2024 9:51:19 GMT -5
Probably because regardless of the cap increasing, it means we paid him to be a great player. So he better be a great player. Free agency: Pay elite money for great players. Pay great money for good players. Pay good money for average players. That’s the way it’s always been. Or as Robert Hunt shows us. Pay Elite money for good players. Thankful Joe was restrained in this regard |
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