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Post by Analyst on Mar 18, 2024 20:00:14 GMT -5
Left Guard?Giants reach out to Neal about the move to LG. ESPN’s Jordan Raanan reports that the Giants have reached out to Neal’s team to discuss the possibility of him moving to guard. More specifically, to left guard alongside Andrew Thomas.
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 18, 2024 20:22:31 GMT -5
Left Guard?Giants reach out to Neal about the move to LG. ESPN’s Jordan Raanan reports that the Giants have reached out to Neal’s team to discuss the possibility of him moving to guard. More specifically, to left guard alongside Andrew Thomas. Either Bricillo sees this or NYG reads this forum for ideas. He may excel at guard and I have heard the left side may suit him more naturally. Number 72 was very solid as a RT tackle under Bricillo in Vegas. |
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Post by McCherry on Mar 18, 2024 20:30:55 GMT -5
It doesn't surprise me. Eluemunor is too good of a RT to consider moving him. On a scale of 1-10, Eluemunor would be a 7 and Neal a 2.
I don't know how you realistically play Neal over him while keeping your credibility as a talent evaluator.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 18, 2024 20:38:08 GMT -5
maybe he'll stay healthier at guard as well. Availability is a very important asset, and I think one of the key missing factors to his ability to improve.
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Post by Analyst on Mar 18, 2024 20:38:14 GMT -5
The only issue is, Neal said he was the RT and sounded as if he was disinterested in moving. Hope that changes. He stinks his first 2 years at RT. Like he should be flippin burgers with us.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 18, 2024 20:39:09 GMT -5
If true, is OL still high on the priority list heading into the draft?
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Mar 18, 2024 20:43:36 GMT -5
I hope he starts pancaking everyone every play. Is Neal athletic enough to do any pulls?
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 18, 2024 20:44:52 GMT -5
It makes sense Neal was successful at Alabama on the left side. Neal is a better run blocker than pass blocker. Neal won't get beat on a speed rush to the outside at Guard. We need help at Guard as well as Tackle.
Eluemunor has already succeeded at RT. Not great but a big improvement over the last 2 years with Neal there. Everything seems stronger this way. Runyon I understand can play either Guard
Neal can still be a damn productive pick at #7 if he becomes a good Guard. I hope he accepts it and embraces it. Our left side of the OL could be a powerhouse with Thomas and Neal.
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Post by lt56 on Mar 18, 2024 20:47:57 GMT -5
... Neal at Left Guard, he is much leaner now than he was at Alabama I notice
yeah I don't know, actually at Guard, Left Guard Especially, you still need to be quick and able to Pull
Left Guard should probably be your 2nd most athletic Offensive Line behind only the Left Tackle
Footwork and quickness is his biggest weakness unfortunately, I do think he can be a mauler in the running game though
hope he finds a home a Guard and becomes a dominating Guard that would be great
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Post by McCherry on Mar 18, 2024 20:52:09 GMT -5
The only issue is, Neal said he was the RT and sounded as if he was disinterested in moving. Hope that changes. He stinks his first 2 years at RT. Like he should be flippin burgers with us. If they ask him to move, I don't know what other options he'd have... Besides forfeiting game checks. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 18, 2024 20:59:14 GMT -5
The only issue is, Neal said he was the RT and sounded as if he was disinterested in moving. Hope that changes. He stinks his first 2 years at RT. Like he should be flippin burgers with us. If they ask him to move, I don't know what other options he'd have... Besides forfeiting game checks. Become disgruntled like many of our 1st round draft picks before him. Then we need to cut or trade him for pennies on the dollar. I always wanted to remove Flowers to G before releasing him |
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Post by McCherry on Mar 18, 2024 21:12:52 GMT -5
If they ask him to move, I don't know what other options he'd have... Besides forfeiting game checks. . Then we need to cut or trade him for pennies on the dollar. I always wanted to remove Flowers to G before releasing him I don't know any example of that situation, but they would never cut him. They'd fine him week to week for refusing to play. Neal isn't stupid. He'll agree to play where they tell him to before wrecking his own career after two seasons. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 18, 2024 21:39:28 GMT -5
Left Guard?Giants reach out to Neal about the move to LG. ESPN’s Jordan Raanan reports that the Giants have reached out to Neal’s team to discuss the possibility of him moving to guard. More specifically, to left guard alongside Andrew Thomas. Think it can be a good move for him and really good one for the Giants he and Thomas could be a punishing duo on the left Neal did have some really good blocks in the run game. Only thing is he has 2 years of learning the right side adjusting to it he has been a left side player more so maybe it comes back naturally. |
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 18, 2024 21:47:51 GMT -5
So they sign Runyan and Eluemenor, some fans are underwhelmed at those two FA, but they’re better at RG and RT than we had last year. Seems silly to move them from their more natural positions to accommodate a player who hasn’t played as well as either of them. Anytime a GM isn’t willing to protect their draft choice and uses meritocracy instead, I’m happy.
I’m sure if Neal knocks everyone’s socks off at camp and in preseason at RT they’d be more than happy to have him there. But it seems smart to tell his off-season coaches to work on some LG technique.
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Post by giantbob71 on Mar 18, 2024 21:48:09 GMT -5
If the Giants think he may play guard, they better start the process ASAP. No chance he's successful if he tries to make an in-season move. However,if he does start taking OG reps, how will that hinder his OT development with the new OLine coach. Hopefully, he has a good attitude and is willing to work at both.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Mar 18, 2024 22:48:45 GMT -5
let's get it let's get it Evan..............
show and prove wherever you can and find your home wherever you can...........
you can't be totally useless homie. We believe you can rebound
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Post by jaymas on Mar 18, 2024 23:01:40 GMT -5
... Neal at Left Guard, he is much leaner now than he was at Alabama I notice yeah I don't know, actually at Guard, Left Guard Especially, you still need to be quick and able to Pull Left Guard should probably be your 2nd most athletic Offensive Line behind only the Left Tackle Footwork and quickness is his biggest weakness unfortunately, I do think he can be a mauler in the running game though hope he finds a home a Guard and becomes a dominating Guard that would be great Well his greatest trait was is crazy athleticism, though some of these injuries seemed to take that away not to mention whatever mental hurdles he hasn't got over so far at Tackle in the NFL. Neal as a guard with his size, run blocking ceiling, and athleticism makes a ton of sense on paper as a career-saving move. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Mar 19, 2024 0:51:19 GMT -5
Look, if this is true .
Neal then becomes rebellious with the move.
Then trade him.
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Post by Analyst on Mar 19, 2024 5:06:38 GMT -5
Become disgruntled like many of our 1st round draft picks before him. Then we need to cut or trade him for pennies on the dollar. I always wanted to remove Flowers to G before releasing him I don't know any example of that situation, but they would never cut him. They'd fine him week to week for refusing to play. Neal isn't stupid. He'll agree to play where they tell him to before wrecking his own career after two seasons. Toney, Apple, Baker, Flowers... disgruntled 1st round picks. |
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Post by hadenough on Mar 19, 2024 5:38:29 GMT -5
Just do it…put him there and see how he does. It will be better than RT.
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Post by Analyst on Mar 19, 2024 5:43:31 GMT -5
Look, if this is true . Neal then becomes rebellious with the move. Then trade him. What would be his trade value at this point? Like a 5th rounder? |
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Post by Jomo on Mar 19, 2024 6:42:36 GMT -5
If true, is OL still high on the priority list heading into the draft? Whether it is true or not, OL is still a high priority heading into the draft. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 19, 2024 6:52:47 GMT -5
If true, is OL still high on the priority list heading into the draft? Whether it is true or not, OL is still a high priority heading into the draft. Agreed, but I just dont see us burning the #6 pick on OL. Atl looks like a monster, but he is a LT. Played LT exclusively. We have a star LT. IMO, Alt is the only OL worth a top 10 pick. Also to note, they picked up 2 TEs in FA that are big time blockers. The way I see it, if they dont love a QB i this draft, they go WR or maybe TE (Bowers). |
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Post by mendy on Mar 19, 2024 7:12:14 GMT -5
I don't know any example of that situation, but they would never cut him. They'd fine him week to week for refusing to play. Neal isn't stupid. He'll agree to play where they tell him to before wrecking his own career after two seasons. Toney, Apple, Baker, Flowers... disgruntled 1st round picks. LOL, context would be nice. Could you expand on the reasons for them being disgruntle? |
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Post by Jomo on Mar 19, 2024 7:14:53 GMT -5
Whether it is true or not, OL is still a high priority heading into the draft. Agreed, but I just dont see us burning the #6 pick on OL. Atl looks like a monster, but he is a LT. Played LT exclusively. We have a star LT. IMO, Alt is the only OL worth a top 10 pick. Also to note, they picked up 2 TEs in FA that are big time blockers. The way I see it, if they dont love a QB i this draft, they go WR or maybe TE (Bowers). I agree. I wasn't trying to say that they'd go OL in round 1. Only saying that the OL if STILL a long way from being NFL grade. |
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Post by inthezone on Mar 19, 2024 7:23:07 GMT -5
I'm glad they are trying something different with him.
Hope he doesn't bust at that spot also.
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Post by mendy on Mar 19, 2024 7:49:32 GMT -5
At least everyone has to admit that whether it works or not the O line is being addressed by Schoen.
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Post by cdngfan on Mar 19, 2024 8:21:49 GMT -5
At least everyone has to admit that whether it works or not the O line is being addressed by Schoen. Agree. But both things can be true at the same time. He’s definitely trying to fix the line. His method makes the most sense to me compared to signing Hunt and drafting Alt. I like JS’ way of doing it better. But the only thing that matters is it has to work. Same thing with drafting a QB. I just don’t get the “we must draft a QB”. We must draft starters. If that includes a QB, awesome, because we have a pretty big need at the position. But JS shouldn’t get credit for drafting a QB. That’s not the goal. Same thing with attempting to fix the line. To be clear, I like what he’s done. It plans for multiple outcomes. That’s a theme of his. |
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Post by Analyst on Mar 19, 2024 8:47:55 GMT -5
At least everyone has to admit that whether it works or not the O line is being addressed by Schoen. Agree. But both things can be true at the same time. He’s definitely trying to fix the line. His method makes the most sense to me compared to signing Hunt and drafting Alt. I like JS’ way of doing it better. But the only thing that matters is it has to work. Same thing with drafting a QB. I just don’t get the “we must draft a QB”. We must draft starters. If that includes a QB, awesome, because we have a pretty big need at the position. But JS shouldn’t get credit for drafting a QB. That’s not the goal. Same thing with attempting to fix the line. To be clear, I like what he’s done. It plans for multiple outcomes. That’s a theme of his. Of course JS is trying to fix the OL. So did Gettleman and every GM before him. Only time tells if they do it right. I would definitely move Neal to G at this point. He just isnt quick enough off the snap to stop the outside speed rushers. Hopefully putting him in a box in the middle he uses his raw strength to push the Dline. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 19, 2024 8:50:27 GMT -5
If the Giants think he may play guard, they better start the process ASAP. No chance he's successful if he tries to make an in-season move. However,if he does start taking OG reps, how will that hinder his OT development with the new OLine coach. Hopefully, he has a good attitude and is willing to work at both. That is exactly right, he needs to work at both and work diligently. His versatility would be an asset to him as well. Other players in the NFL do this every year. It's only his own ego that would prevent this. A #7 pick in the 1st rd and he's been the starting RT for 2 years. If there is resistance a suggestion of starting LG or backup swing OT might bring him around. The versatility of playing 2 positions is a strength for any player plus depth for the team. It's not going to effect his money he has 3 years including 2024 left on his rookie contract. The money is set. |
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