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Post by Nite on Apr 15, 2024 8:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 15, 2024 9:10:07 GMT -5
Thanks for legitimizing the claims made against John Mara. He sure is horrible.
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Post by TEM on Apr 15, 2024 9:11:51 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants.
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 15, 2024 9:13:34 GMT -5
Was Doug Rush Pat Leonard's protege or something? Even on Facebook I'm getting slammed with Doug Rush stories...almost every one of them about the QB. Mara said he'd be OK if Schoen picked at QB at #6.
So what's the story?
Lots of drama over nothing. These guys love drama...it's starting to get worse than The View.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 15, 2024 9:22:14 GMT -5
Thanks for legitimizing the claims made against John Mara. He sure is horrible. It is silly lol Mara loved Barkley and OBJ are either here no he loves jones but the green light is on for a QB which they more than likely won't draft in the first because there are only 3 worth top 10 consideration unless they want go the Jones route 2.0. Mara has paid out millions for a state of the art draft room and that if Daboll goes onto his computer he can punch up Malek Nabers and have every thing from film to his 40 his weight hight and GPS info from game play, the owner has done everything to step away from the old way of doing things he doesn't lie when he saw a Kerry Collin get ditched for Eli in the draft Mara made mistakes yes but it was not with the roster it was who hired .
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 15, 2024 9:22:16 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. You've said this before. What's your point?
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Post by TEM on Apr 15, 2024 9:28:37 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. You've said this before. What's your point? He has the say. He can delegate some of that power if he chooses to. He can take it back at any time and dictate the direction he wants it to be, His team, his money, his say. If he wants to shout from the top of a mountain what the team's plans are for the draft. That is all his. That is fact with any business owner. Including shareholders of a corporation. (they have the final say) Does that clarify it?
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 15, 2024 9:39:18 GMT -5
Thanks for legitimizing the claims made against John Mara. He sure is horrible. It is silly lol Mara loved Barkley and OBJ are either here no he loves jones but the green light is on for a QB which they more than likely won't draft in the first because there are only 3 worth top 10 consideration unless they want go the Jones route 2.0. Mara has paid out millions for a state of the art draft room and that if Daboll goes onto his computer he can punch up Malek Nabers and have every thing from film to his 40 his weight hight and GPS info from game play, the owner has done everything to step away from the old way of doing things he doesn't lie when he saw a Kerry Collin get ditched for Eli in the draft Mara made mistakes yes but it was not with the roster it was who hired Spot on Dog. Could not agree more.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 15, 2024 9:44:55 GMT -5
It is silly lol Mara loved Barkley and OBJ are either here no he loves jones but the green light is on for a QB which they more than likely won't draft in the first because there are only 3 worth top 10 consideration unless they want go the Jones route 2.0. Mara has paid out millions for a state of the art draft room and that if Daboll goes onto his computer he can punch up Malek Nabers and have every thing from film to his 40 his weight hight and GPS info from game play, the owner has done everything to step away from the old way of doing things he doesn't lie when he saw a Kerry Collin get ditched for Eli in the draft Mara made mistakes yes but it was not with the roster it was who hired Spot on Dog. Could not agree more. Guy wants to win and it hurts him to the core to lose like this he has seen it work and knows the drill fans and writers act as tho they have a corner office in the building. everyone needs to just let these guys do their jobs and be patient.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 15, 2024 9:59:13 GMT -5
We just gonna ignore the fact that no chair is safe around this man?
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Post by idkaname on Apr 15, 2024 10:00:26 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. yeah pretty funny how people complain about an owner. It's okay to not agree with them or like the way they run things but the only way to change that is to buy the team from them LOL
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2024 10:02:46 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits?
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Post by idkaname on Apr 15, 2024 10:03:26 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. You've said this before. What's your point? He explained his point with a pretty direct statement, I'm trying to figure out what your point is with that response? Are you saying Mara shouldn't be the owner or do as he pleases because you disagree? lol
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 15, 2024 10:04:02 GMT -5
We just gonna ignore the fact that no chair is safe around this man? I like it but he has terrible form pick that F#$%ing thing up and do some damage lol.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 15, 2024 10:08:05 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? Not at all but to say things that they don't know to be true isn't right. He made mistakes he will admit to them and has it's just not the stuff fans and talking heads point to.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 15, 2024 10:08:12 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? No but mocking the owner of a $7B organization comes off kind of envious. Especially when it's done in a demeaning way - The Dunning-Kruger effect will always circle round.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2024 10:13:06 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? Not at all but to say things that they don't know to be true isn't right. He made mistakes he will admit to them and has it's just not the stuff fans and talking heads point to. you really believe all these coaches for 12 seasons couldn’t teach an OL to block despite so many calling for the coaches heads? You think that’s true? nobody is off limits.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2024 10:14:21 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? No but mocking the owner of a $7B organization comes off kind of envious. Especially when it's done in a demeaning way - The Dunning-Kruger effect will always circle round. yeah, everybody is envious of the owner and has nothing to do with the product on the field 🙄
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Post by idkaname on Apr 15, 2024 10:33:03 GMT -5
No but mocking the owner of a $7B organization comes off kind of envious. Especially when it's done in a demeaning way - The Dunning-Kruger effect will always circle round. yeah, everybody is envious of the owner and has nothing to do with the product on the field 🙄 True, forgot Goodell controls it all
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Post by vinnie on Apr 15, 2024 10:40:06 GMT -5
Great. Mara owns the team and can do what he wants, we all get that but it doesn’t mean we can’t give our opinions.
Guess what, Schoen is the GM and can draft anyone he wants so why even bother discussing the draft, we have no control. Daboll is the HC and can hire or fire who he wants, so lets not talk about that either. Daboll may or may not call the plays, we have no control, so stop complaining. Jones may miss 5 wide open receivers in one game but that’s out of our control and there’s nothing we can do about so why both arguing whether he should be the QB or not.
Shut down the site, all of this is pointless. Time to move on fellas and find something better to do with your time.
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Post by 3days on Apr 15, 2024 10:40:18 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. That is completely true, it also means he owns the horrible results over the last 13 years.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 15, 2024 10:42:18 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? Seems he was on the old boards "official" site.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 15, 2024 10:47:24 GMT -5
You've said this before. What's your point? He has the say. He can delegate some of that power if he chooses to. He can take it back at any time and dictate the direction he wants it to be, His team, his money, his say. If he wants to shout from the top of a mountain what the team's plans are for the draft. That is all his. That is fact with any business owner. Including shareholders of a corporation. (they have the final say) Does that clarify it? Not a person on earth would dispute that. It's a given. Owners have the freedom to do whatever they want. That is not, and has never been an issue. Has anyone ever suggested that's not true? The question is his behavior and whether or not he's harming the team and it's chances to win football games. The question is whether or not his ego is getting in the way of the success of our beloved team. Dave Gettleman had the right to draft Saquan Barkley and Daniel Jones. Are you suggesting that since he was given that power by the owner his decisions are never to be questioned?
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 15, 2024 10:58:14 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? Seems he was on the old boards "official" site. Really? Hmmmm
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Post by McCherry on Apr 15, 2024 11:01:45 GMT -5
Players, coaches, fans . . . everybody gets ridiculed. Is the owner off limits? Not at all but to say things that they don't know to be true isn't right. He made mistakes he will admit to them and has it's just not the stuff fans and talking heads point to. Accountability should start at the top. That's ok. But there are fans who will never stop believing Mara is telling the GM's what to do.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 15, 2024 11:04:18 GMT -5
Seems he was on the old boards "official" site. Really? Hmmmm Were you on there? It was an extremely active site, but heavily moderated. Yet the forum was abruptly shut down, once the Mara bashing become a common theme. And the mod who personally knew Mara and was the most strict did not come over to this site, as so many others did.
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Post by Nite on Apr 15, 2024 11:18:19 GMT -5
Thanks for legitimizing the claims made against John Mara. He sure is horrible. Not only that. He is a security risk, should be arrested and tried in the court of Giants fandom, then found GUILTY!!
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Post by Nite on Apr 15, 2024 11:19:42 GMT -5
He owns the team. He can do what he wants. No he can't I'll let you know why in a few minutes....
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Post by GameTime on Apr 15, 2024 11:24:50 GMT -5
They gambled on Jones and lost. They all agreed. They all lost. They have all been trying to get this team right since 2012ish. They have all failed. While I feel Mara has stepped back some what it its still a groups effort that he is involved in.
Its a family business and you never mess with the family.
Its not a billionaire's hobby or play thing like is for other owners.
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Post by TEM on Apr 15, 2024 11:30:12 GMT -5
He has the say. He can delegate some of that power if he chooses to. He can take it back at any time and dictate the direction he wants it to be, His team, his money, his say. If he wants to shout from the top of a mountain what the team's plans are for the draft. That is all his. That is fact with any business owner. Including shareholders of a corporation. (they have the final say) Does that clarify it? Not a person on earth would dispute that. It's a given. Owners have the freedom to do whatever they want. That is not, and has never been an issue. Has anyone ever suggested that's not true? The question is his behavior and whether or not he's harming the team and it's chances to win football games. The question is whether or not his ego is getting in the way of the success of our beloved team. Dave Gettleman had the right to draft Saquan Barkley and Daniel Jones. Are you suggesting that since he was given that power by the owner his decisions are never to be questioned? You are in an indirect way making a contradictory statement.
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