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Post by Speedman on Jul 9, 2018 7:33:37 GMT -5
They are professionals they should play with pride.
No doubt but they didn't last year.
They certainly didn’t last year. Hopefully the new coaching staff changes that this year.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2018 9:25:04 GMT -5
But we aren’t in a rebuild. Eli has years of elite QB play left in him, and all he needs is a running back and some OL improvement and he’ll be leading us to the promised land once again. Or, so we’ve been told.
Lets hope the Oline comes together this year. If so Eli will be fine. If it does there are plenty of skill players that he can go to. Going to a 2 TE set more often will be excellent. Ellison was under utilized and Ingram will be a year better.
I don't know if it's that simple Martin. Teams have had Eli's number for 2 years now. He's got to show us he can still get the job done.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 9, 2018 9:41:49 GMT -5
Betcher seems like he will be very “fluid” with how the D will look and function. Which is a good thing.
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Post by pocketintegrity on Jul 9, 2018 11:35:24 GMT -5
Lets hope the Oline comes together this year. If so Eli will be fine. If it does there are plenty of skill players that he can go to. Going to a 2 TE set more often will be excellent. Ellison was under utilized and Ingram will be a year better.
I don't know if it's that simple Martin. Teams have had Eli's number for 2 years now. He's got to show us he can still get the job done.
Teams have had Eli's O-Line's number for 2 years now.
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Post by Parademon1 on Jul 9, 2018 12:03:21 GMT -5
Bottom line is that since 2013, the Giants have had a mediocre/bad OL & mediocre/bad RBs & it has affected Eli's play, throw in last yr wher ehe lost his entire receiving corps for just about the entire yr as Shep missed 5 games himself & Eli ended up having his worst yr stat wise in yrs. Having Flowers as a LT will make any NFL QB gun shy & mess up their internal clock, how some of you wanna keep denying this is beyond me. I remember a prime time game a few yrs ago where Collinsworth was tearing up Flowers play and couldn't believe the Giants didn't give him help with a TE or RB. With all the new pieces on the OL especially at LT & with SB & healthy OBJ coming back, I will be the 1st one hear ranting for Eli to be replaced if he plays bad with what is probably the best offense talent wise that he has ever had. But I really don't see Eli regressing, I will not be surprised to see Eli bounce back with a 4500yds 30+ TD season.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 9, 2018 12:32:15 GMT -5
Bottom line is that since 2013, the Giants have had a mediocre/bad OL & mediocre/bad RBs & it has affected Eli's play, throw in last yr wher ehe lost his entire receiving corps for just about the entire yr as Shep missed 5 games himself & Eli ended up having his worst yr stat wise in yrs. Having Flowers as a LT will make any NFL QB gun shy & mess up their internal clock, how some of you wanna keep denying this is beyond me. I remember a prime time game a few yrs ago where Collinsworth was tearing up Flowers play and couldn't believe the Giants didn't give him help with a TE or RB. With all the new pieces on the OL especially at LT & with SB & healthy OBJ coming back, I will be the 1st one hear ranting for Eli to be replaced if he plays bad with what is probably the best offense talent wise that he has ever had. But I really don't see Eli regressing, I will not be surprised to see Eli bounce back with a 4500yds 30+ TD season. All pertinent facts but Eli had his own brand of poor play above and beyond all the other issues. With that said I do believe he can still have a very good year if things go well across the entire offense
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 9, 2018 13:06:25 GMT -5
Bottom line is that since 2013, the Giants have had a mediocre/bad OL & mediocre/bad RBs & it has affected Eli's play, throw in last yr wher ehe lost his entire receiving corps for just about the entire yr as Shep missed 5 games himself & Eli ended up having his worst yr stat wise in yrs. Having Flowers as a LT will make any NFL QB gun shy & mess up their internal clock, how some of you wanna keep denying this is beyond me. I remember a prime time game a few yrs ago where Collinsworth was tearing up Flowers play and couldn't believe the Giants didn't give him help with a TE or RB. With all the new pieces on the OL especially at LT & with SB & healthy OBJ coming back, I will be the 1st one hear ranting for Eli to be replaced if he plays bad with what is probably the best offense talent wise that he has ever had. But I really don't see Eli regressing, I will not be surprised to see Eli bounce back with a 4500yds 30+ TD season.
It all boils down to how well Eli can handle the pressure this year. And there will be pressure. We can all count on that.
You think Flowers at RT is going to keep Eli dialed in when teams show a blitz to his side?
We know the game plan is to rattle Eli off his game and get him to make mistakes. We need to see him overcome that over the course of the season.
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 10, 2018 6:09:54 GMT -5
"THE TRADE OF JASON PIERRE-PAUL and an offensive-centric draft didn’t do New York’s defense any favors heading into the 2018 campaign." Hard to argue with that. Not to mention letting DRC and Cockrell walk. JPP was not going to hold up on a 3 man front, for the entire season. We already saw the club go on again, last season. Too much tackling responsibility, and then he becomes a liability in the run game. The additions of Barley and Hernandez are going to be this defense's best friend, as well as Eli's.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Jul 10, 2018 6:15:33 GMT -5
I am excited about the team and there is a lot of new coming on both sides of the ball. I don't expect huge developments and from a defensive perspective going to 3 - 4 is going to take some time. I know many hybrid D's are out there but until I see what the coached know I have to assume its going to have many bumps in putting the D together. Who knows maybe the O bails out the D this year. 35 points a game! I can dream right? As long as you don't actually believe it, then...sure. Our offense didn't even score HALF that last year with 36 year-old Eli. I'm not sure 37 year-old Eli is suddenly going to double last year's production. At this point, ONE 35-point game would be a significant improvement lol you do realize all the injuries we had last year right? Or how about the incompetent coach we had? To put that on eli is ridiculous. The offense will be much better this year barring injury.
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Post by Fletch842 on Jul 10, 2018 7:02:01 GMT -5
As long as you don't actually believe it, then...sure. Our offense didn't even score HALF that last year with 36 year-old Eli. I'm not sure 37 year-old Eli is suddenly going to double last year's production. At this point, ONE 35-point game would be a significant improvement lol you do realize all the injuries we had last year right? Or how about the incompetent coach we had? To put that on eli is ridiculous. The offense will be much better this year barring injury. me thinks even with injuries...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 12:01:13 GMT -5
As long as you don't actually believe it, then...sure. Our offense didn't even score HALF that last year with 36 year-old Eli. I'm not sure 37 year-old Eli is suddenly going to double last year's production. At this point, ONE 35-point game would be a significant improvement lol you do realize all the injuries we had last year right? Or how about the incompetent coach we had? To put that on eli is ridiculous. The offense will be much better this year barring injury. The only thing I put on Eli is that he's 37 years-old. He used to be able to carry the team on his back. At this stage in his career, he - clearly - is no longer able to do so. I have a 14-1/2 year old cat that I've had since she was a kitten (go ahead and make your jokes). When she was younger, I would come home to find her sleeping on top of the kitchen cabinets. Now I have to pick her up because she can't even make the jump to my lap anymore. I'm well aware that the end is fairly near. A vast majority of cats don't live past 15 or 16 years. I've thought about where I'll bury her when she goes. It's life. Everybody gets old. Everybody reaches a point where their bodies just won't do what they used to. You can either approach it realistically, or you can wish really hard that the good times will last forever. Either way, the result is always the same.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 10, 2018 12:20:06 GMT -5
lol you do realize all the injuries we had last year right? Or how about the incompetent coach we had? To put that on eli is ridiculous. The offense will be much better this year barring injury. The only thing I put on Eli is that he's 37 years-old. He used to be able to carry the team on his back. At this stage in his career, he - clearly - is no longer able to do so. I have a 14-1/2 year old cat that I've had since she was a kitten (go ahead and make your jokes). When she was younger, I would come home to find her sleeping on top of the kitchen cabinets. Now I have to pick her up because she can't even make the jump to my lap anymore. I'm well aware that the end is fairly near. A vast majority of cats don't live past 15 or 16 years. I've thought about where I'll bury her when she goes. It's life. Everybody gets old. Everybody reaches a point where their bodies just won't do what they used to. You can either approach it realistically, or you can wish really hard that the good times will last forever. Either way, the result is always the same. Whether or not fans think Eli has to change his game because he is 37 doesn’t matter. You hear Eli all the time saying how his workouts have changed as he gets older. IMO.....this is also why he caves so quickly when being rushed/blitzed. Self preservation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 12:35:12 GMT -5
The only thing I put on Eli is that he's 37 years-old. He used to be able to carry the team on his back. At this stage in his career, he - clearly - is no longer able to do so. I have a 14-1/2 year old cat that I've had since she was a kitten (go ahead and make your jokes). When she was younger, I would come home to find her sleeping on top of the kitchen cabinets. Now I have to pick her up because she can't even make the jump to my lap anymore. I'm well aware that the end is fairly near. A vast majority of cats don't live past 15 or 16 years. I've thought about where I'll bury her when she goes. It's life. Everybody gets old. Everybody reaches a point where their bodies just won't do what they used to. You can either approach it realistically, or you can wish really hard that the good times will last forever. Either way, the result is always the same. IMO.....this is also why he caves so quickly when being rushed/blitzed. Self preservation. It's human nature. It's why so many cops and firefighters retire in their 40s. It's not just that their bodies can't handle the job anymore...it's also that the self-preservation one tends to develop as they get older starts to get in the way of the execution of their duties. In other words, they're just not willing to risk their own lives anymore.
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Post by nysports98 on Jul 13, 2018 7:09:11 GMT -5
Regardless of the scheme I'd like to see the Giants defense remember how to tackle. For the last few years every time a guy is running with the ball here comes a Giants defender, and he slips right off. Here comes another; nope he's on the ground too. After 12-14 yards, here comes 3-4 guys all jumping on the RB, finally bringing him down after another 4 yards. If other teams RB's can stop coating themselves in teflon before games, that would be great. That's league wide IMO and more with these 4-3 teams. Let's be honest, the linebackers across the league can tackle. Beyond the LOS the DL is slow in pursuit while DB's are culprit #1 in arm tackles, poor tackling form and whiffs. One more LB on the field in a 3-4 could be the difference.
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 13, 2018 7:33:39 GMT -5
Regardless of the scheme I'd like to see the Giants defense remember how to tackle. For the last few years every time a guy is running with the ball here comes a Giants defender, and he slips right off. Here comes another; nope he's on the ground too. After 12-14 yards, here comes 3-4 guys all jumping on the RB, finally bringing him down after another 4 yards. If other teams RB's can stop coating themselves in teflon before games, that would be great. That's league wide IMO and more with these 4-3 teams. Let's be honest, the linebackers across the league can tackle. Beyond the LOS the DL is slow in pursuit while DB's are culprit #1 in arm tackles, poor tackling form and whiffs. One more LB on the field in a 3-4 could be the difference. I would suppose there's less excuses for not making the tackle, if you're not locked up with the lineman across from you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 11:15:06 GMT -5
Bottom line is that since 2013, the Giants have had a mediocre/bad OL & mediocre/bad RBs & it has affected Eli's play, throw in last yr wher ehe lost his entire receiving corps for just about the entire yr as Shep missed 5 games himself & Eli ended up having his worst yr stat wise in yrs. Having Flowers as a LT will make any NFL QB gun shy & mess up their internal clock, how some of you wanna keep denying this is beyond me. I remember a prime time game a few yrs ago where Collinsworth was tearing up Flowers play and couldn't believe the Giants didn't give him help with a TE or RB. With all the new pieces on the OL especially at LT & with SB & healthy OBJ coming back, I will be the 1st one hear ranting for Eli to be replaced if he plays bad with what is probably the best offense talent wise that he has ever had. But I really don't see Eli regressing, I will not be surprised to see Eli bounce back with a 4500yds 30+ TD season.
It all boils down to how well Eli can handle the pressure this year. And there will be pressure. We can all count on that.
You think Flowers at RT is going to keep Eli dialed in when teams show a blitz to his side?
We know the game plan is to rattle Eli off his game and get him to make mistakes. We need to see him overcome that over the course of the season.
The thing is the Giants have been largely 1 dimensional on offence since Odell came into the league. McAdoo took this to the nth degree when he got full reigns as the entire O was designed to get him the ball. While your O certainly needs to get the most out of a player of Beckham’s calibre you also need to be able to take what the defence is giving you - and I DONT mean 2-3 yard checkdowns. I am talking about the RB and OL actually chewing up the 3-5 yards hat were there for he taking practically 80% of plays vs this O last year. Even better why not have a RB that can make the ONE guy he needs to beat miss and break a run for 5-15 yards? Defences did the football equivalent of laughing in the Giants O face last year by rushing 4 and clogging up the middle of the field while also keeping 2 back to cover deep routes. On nearly every play.The Giants couldn’t do it. Philly played them differently for whatever reason and they paid for it. If Barkley is even half as good as he is supposed to be this coming year then there is going to be huge improvement. They were he worst o I ever saw so that isn’t hard to do...but I’m willing to guarantee everyone is going to look way better with this dimension (finally) in the offence
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Post by nysports98 on Jul 13, 2018 11:23:10 GMT -5
It all boils down to how well Eli can handle the pressure this year. And there will be pressure. We can all count on that.
You think Flowers at RT is going to keep Eli dialed in when teams show a blitz to his side?
We know the game plan is to rattle Eli off his game and get him to make mistakes. We need to see him overcome that over the course of the season.
The thing is the Giants have been largely 1 dimensional on offence since Odell came into the league. McAdoo took this to the nth degree when he got full reigns as the entire O was designed to get him the ball. While your O certainly needs to get the most out of a player of Beckham’s calibre you also need to be able to take what the defence is giving you - and I DONT mean 2-3 yard checkdowns. I am talking about the RB and OL actually chewing up the 3-5 yards hat were there for he taking practically 80% of plays vs this O last year. Even better why not have a RB that can make the ONE guy he needs to beat miss and break a run for 5-15 yards? Defences did the football equivalent of laughing in the Giants O face last year by rushing 4 and clogging up the middle of the field while also keeping 2 back to cover deep routes. On nearly every play.The Giants couldn’t do it. Philly played them differently for whatever reason and they paid for it. If Barkley is even half as good as he is supposed to be this coming year then there is going to be huge improvement. They were he worst o I ever saw so that isn’t hard to do...but I’m willing to guarantee everyone is going to look way better with this dimension (finally) in the offence Great post +1 The franchise question is did OBJ extend Eli's career IMO. You're so right about the offense being practically one dimensional and i question if that sole dimension extended Eli's career. We're about to find out. No excuses with a better OL, star HB, star WR and a pretty solid TE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 11:32:57 GMT -5
The thing is the Giants have been largely 1 dimensional on offence since Odell came into the league. McAdoo took this to the nth degree when he got full reigns as the entire O was designed to get him the ball. While your O certainly needs to get the most out of a player of Beckham’s calibre you also need to be able to take what the defence is giving you - and I DONT mean 2-3 yard checkdowns. I am talking about the RB and OL actually chewing up the 3-5 yards hat were there for he taking practically 80% of plays vs this O last year. Even better why not have a RB that can make the ONE guy he needs to beat miss and break a run for 5-15 yards? Defences did the football equivalent of laughing in the Giants O face last year by rushing 4 and clogging up the middle of the field while also keeping 2 back to cover deep routes. On nearly every play.The Giants couldn’t do it. Philly played them differently for whatever reason and they paid for it. If Barkley is even half as good as he is supposed to be this coming year then there is going to be huge improvement. They were he worst o I ever saw so that isn’t hard to do...but I’m willing to guarantee everyone is going to look way better with this dimension (finally) in the offence Great post +1 The franchise question is did OBJ extend Eli's career IMO. You're so right about the offense being practically one dimensional and i question if that sole dimension extended Eli's career. We're about to find out. No excuses with a better OL, star HB, star WR and a pretty solid TE. In my opinion Beckham is the only reason McAdoo was able to “break in” as a senior coach. I guarantee you Kevin Gilbride could have performed at least as well - Gilbride survives in the NFL for decades and you can’t do that without adapting. Beckham saved TC and McAdoos butts. I hate to pump his ego but it’s true. Eli I think the team is committed to come hell or high water. Beckham I think was a second wind for our coaches BIG TIME
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 13, 2018 11:35:20 GMT -5
Great post +1 The franchise question is did OBJ extend Eli's career IMO. You're so right about the offense being practically one dimensional and i question if that sole dimension extended Eli's career. We're about to find out. No excuses with a better OL, star HB, star WR and a pretty solid TE. In my opinion Beckham is the only reason McAdoo was able to “break in” as a senior coach. I guarantee you Kevin Gilbride could have performed at least as well - Gilbride survives in the NFL for decades and you can’t do that without adapting. Beckham saved TC and McAdoos butts. I hate to pump his ego but it’s true. Eli I think the team is committed to come hell or high water. Beckham I think was a second wind for our coaches BIG TIME I would agree.
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Post by nysports98 on Jul 13, 2018 11:51:58 GMT -5
Great post +1 The franchise question is did OBJ extend Eli's career IMO. You're so right about the offense being practically one dimensional and i question if that sole dimension extended Eli's career. We're about to find out. No excuses with a better OL, star HB, star WR and a pretty solid TE. In my opinion Beckham is the only reason McAdoo was able to “break in” as a senior coach. I guarantee you Kevin Gilbride could have performed at least as well - Gilbride survives in the NFL for decades and you can’t do that without adapting. Beckham saved TC and McAdoos butts. I hate to pump his ego but it’s true. Eli I think the team is committed to come hell or high water. Beckham I think was a second wind for our coaches BIG TIME Oooh, that's a very interesting take.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 11:56:48 GMT -5
Great post +1 The franchise question is did OBJ extend Eli's career IMO. You're so right about the offense being practically one dimensional and i question if that sole dimension extended Eli's career. We're about to find out. No excuses with a better OL, star HB, star WR and a pretty solid TE. In my opinion Beckham is the only reason McAdoo was able to “break in” as a senior coach. I guarantee you Kevin Gilbride could have performed at least as well - Gilbride survives in the NFL for decades and you can’t do that without adapting. Beckham saved TC and McAdoos butts. I hate to pump his ego but it’s true. Eli I think the team is committed to come hell or high water. Beckham I think was a second wind for our coaches BIG TIME I think he runs a pretty standard WCO scheme. Aaron Rodgers loved the guy...or so he said. Like all coaches, with good players his scheme works, and with poor players it doesn't.
His problems, as I said are not X's and O's. They are in leadership. At least that's my opinion. His football mind is fine. And all his comments are pretty much what most of us have said before.
He probably should have shut up about it but we should all shut up once in a while and don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2018 12:06:00 GMT -5
In my opinion Beckham is the only reason McAdoo was able to “break in” as a senior coach. I guarantee you Kevin Gilbride could have performed at least as well - Gilbride survives in the NFL for decades and you can’t do that without adapting. Beckham saved TC and McAdoos butts. I hate to pump his ego but it’s true. Eli I think the team is committed to come hell or high water. Beckham I think was a second wind for our coaches BIG TIME I think he runs a pretty standard WCO scheme. Aaron Rodgers loved the guy...or so he said. Like all coaches, with good players his scheme works, and with poor players it doesn't.
His problems, as I said are not X's and O's. They are in leadership. At least that's my opinion. His football mind is fine. And all his comments are pretty much what most of us have said before.
He probably should have shut up about it but we should all shut up once in a while and don't.
He has some definite Xs and Os problems IMO BUT I agree that his main failing as a coach is his lack of leadership ability. The HC position is a management job. This guy fined players in absentia and liked to hide away in his office. This is the main reason he failed. But I truly believe he never had it. He was never a coordinator of any kind before the Giants, he arrives at the same time as Beckham and gets credited with the offensive “turnaround” (emphasis on those quotation marks!!!). It was all an illusion. Should have stuck with Gilbride. O still would have “improved” and then either they do well or we dump the whole staff. Instead they promoted the guy with the least experience and who probably had least to do with O success in terms of leaders in the org. Other failing coaches also got a lifeline since he had no connections or coaching tree from which to build his own staff. Promoting from a failure (the 2014-2015 Giants were NOT good football teams) will burn you big time, everytime
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 12:09:29 GMT -5
I think he runs a pretty standard WCO scheme. Aaron Rodgers loved the guy...or so he said. Like all coaches, with good players his scheme works, and with poor players it doesn't.
His problems, as I said are not X's and O's. They are in leadership. At least that's my opinion. His football mind is fine. And all his comments are pretty much what most of us have said before.
He probably should have shut up about it but we should all shut up once in a while and don't.
He has some definite Xs and Os problems IMO BUT I agree that his main failing as a coach is his lack of leadership ability. The HC position is a management job. This guy fined players in absentia and liked to hide away in his office. This is the main reason he failed. But I truly believe he never had it. He was never a coordinator of any kind before the Giants, he arrives at the same time as Beckham and gets credited with the offensive “turnaround” (emphasis on those quotation marks!!!). It was all an illusion. Should have stuck with Gilbride. O still would have “improved” and then either they do well or we dump the whole staff. Instead they promoted the guy with the least experience and who probably had least to do with O success in terms of leaders in the org. Other failing coaches also got a lifeline since he had no connections or coaching tree from which to build his own staff. Promoting from a failure (the 2014-2015 Giants were NOT good football teams) will burn you big time, everytime Well it's pretty much a "chicken or the egg" kind of argument and there is no way to know. But your last statement is spot on.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 12:11:06 GMT -5
He has some definite Xs and Os problems IMO BUT I agree that his main failing as a coach is his lack of leadership ability. The HC position is a management job. This guy fined players in absentia and liked to hide away in his office. This is the main reason he failed. But I truly believe he never had it. He was never a coordinator of any kind before the Giants, he arrives at the same time as Beckham and gets credited with the offensive “turnaround” (emphasis on those quotation marks!!!). It was all an illusion. Should have stuck with Gilbride. O still would have “improved” and then either they do well or we dump the whole staff. Instead they promoted the guy with the least experience and who probably had least to do with O success in terms of leaders in the org. Other failing coaches also got a lifeline since he had no connections or coaching tree from which to build his own staff. Promoting from a failure (the 2014-2015 Giants were NOT good football teams) will burn you big time, everytime Well it's pretty much a "chicken or the egg" kind of argument and there is no way to know. But your last statement is spot on. McAdoo and Spags needed to go with TC.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 17:06:38 GMT -5
Reese, you forgot to mention Reese needed to go as much and the NEW GM should have picked the New HC,you forgot all about that. I wouldn't have cried if JR went with TC and Spags. Not for a minute.
And our owner picks the HC. JR never got to pick a HC. he had no say on how our team was coached at all.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 19:50:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't have cried if JR went with TC and Spags. Not for a minute.
And our owner picks the HC. JR never got to pick a HC. he had no say on how our team was coached at all.
You know this how? Really? Have you read anything about our team...including Ernie's book? And John Mara has stated it many times.
Ernie was against the TC hire. But the owner picks the HC. So Tom was hired. You didn't know this?
Read "The GM". It's a nice insight into our franchise. I read it on the flight back from Hawaii on super sunday 2008. I got home about 3 in the afternoon and after reading that book...I KNEW we were going to beat the Pats.
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Post by TEM on Jul 13, 2018 20:39:59 GMT -5
Really? Have you read anything about our team...including Ernie's book? And John Mara has stated it many times.
Ernie was against the TC hire. But the owner picks the HC. So Tom was hired. You didn't know this?
Read "The GM". It's a nice insight into our franchise. I read it on the flight back from Hawaii on super sunday 2008. I got home about 3 in the afternoon and after reading that book...I KNEW we were going to beat the Pats.
So George Young didn't hire any coach's??? Wellington Allowed Young to hire HCs . That policy changed with John.
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Post by Nick6475 on Jul 13, 2018 22:46:24 GMT -5
The defense performing poorly will have more to do with a very questionable secondary and a lack of a true pass rusher...not learning a new defensive system. Olivier Vernon's best year was playing as a stand up LB on Miami so that is encouraging, but that secondary is very questionable.
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2018 22:51:50 GMT -5
So George Young didn't hire any coach's??? Wellington Allowed Young to hire HCs . That policy changed with John. it changed after George left. Read the book for Gods sake. Wellington hired Tom. John Mara hired Ben. He's said it many times. JR never hired a single coach. HC or assistants.
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Post by TEM on Jul 14, 2018 7:21:01 GMT -5
Wellington Allowed Young to hire HCs . That policy changed with John. it changed after George left. Read the book for Gods sake. Wellington hired Tom. John Mara hired Ben. He's said it many times. JR never hired a single coach. HC or assistants. Thanks. I thought it was a John Mara control thing. Although I think the GM should have the option on who he feels is the best fit for the HC. It does give the HC some voice without fear of retribution from the GM I am not sure how other franchises operate. The GM on the Giants does not have 100% control of the Draft. He can be overruled by the owner if the HC and GM are not on the same page on the choice.
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