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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 24, 2020 14:13:41 GMT -5
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 24, 2020 14:14:49 GMT -5
1% chance.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 24, 2020 14:37:47 GMT -5
You would be highly wrong thinking there was only a 1% chance of this happening,and I speak as someone who is all about Thomas at 4 and get the dynamic playmaker day 2 or 4th round. Gettleman has taken an offensive playmaker in the 1st 3 times (Benjamin,McCaffrey and Barkley). And if anyone is a slave to BPA its Gettleman... This happening is a lot more likely than people are realizing..
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Post by McCherry on Feb 24, 2020 14:39:16 GMT -5
they make good points about rookie LT’s... Expecting Andrew Thomas to solve our problems at LT this year is not realistic.
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Post by hadenough on Feb 24, 2020 14:48:06 GMT -5
Well...they're speculating the Giants will find a long term RT in free agency. Then draft WR. I guess if that happens WR becomes more of a possiblity.
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Post by JoeyCush on Feb 24, 2020 14:57:53 GMT -5
I can be totally wrong but I see no possible way that this happens. Gettleman came in and specifically pointed out the offensive line was a problem. We are in year three and not only is it not fixed but he hasnt put nearly any draft capital into the line outside of Will Hernandez. 2019 only Big George was selected in the 7th, if you even count that.
IMO #4 (assuming we dont trade it) is OT or defense. This team went into hell because of Reese drafting from the outside in. I cant see DG making that same mistake.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 24, 2020 14:58:19 GMT -5
There is a reason why we didnt win more with Odell. #1, the OL was terrible. #2, the defense was terrible. Jeudy is a PHENOMENAL talent, but like when we took Saquon, this wouldnt be the best decision to make despite the top line talent he possesses. Winning games starts in the trenches. I dont know how many more times this needs to be proven with this team.
We won SBs with a great pass rush and solid OL front to back.
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 24, 2020 14:58:50 GMT -5
Id say 10-15% chance. He has alot of Nuk in him. He would be insurance for Sterling as well, not to mention Tates age. He would really open up the offense. Jeudy, Slayton, Shepard, Tate, Barkley, Engram. Thats unstoppable with competent blocking
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Feb 24, 2020 15:00:16 GMT -5
It wouldn’t surprise me but I hope not. There are bigger issues on this team
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 24, 2020 15:00:55 GMT -5
Well...they're speculating the Giants will find a long term RT in free agency. Then draft WR. I guess if that happens WR becomes more of a possiblity. Honestly I'm actually warming up to the idea of signing C McGovern...a lot of great C prospects out there but this guy is solid..and while the idea of 80% of your O line being on rookie contracts and growing together is a great idea.. Having a vet C with a rookie I mean young 2and year QB helps with protections and gives him something less to worry about while having to learn a completely new offense again And frees up the draft (at least for me doing these things as I always target a C )to be more versatile rounds 2-5 Not a fan of a long term RT in free agency at all.... These tackles are too good not to grab one early,and with a sick group of playmakers that go 5 rounds deep ....get your guy day 2
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 24, 2020 15:04:56 GMT -5
Id say 10-15% chance. He has alot of Nuk in him. He would be insurance for Sterling as well, not to mention Tates age. He would really open up the offense. Jeudy, Slayton, Shepard, Tate, Barkley, Engram. Thats unstoppable with competent blocking Justin Jefferson,Shepard,Slayton,Barkley,Engram would also be unstoppable with competent blocking Soldier,Hernandez,McGovern(FA)Zeitler,Thomas(who moves over to LT in 2021)
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Post by DandyDon on Feb 24, 2020 15:05:37 GMT -5
they make good points about rookie LT’s... Expecting Andrew Thomas to solve our problems at LT this year is not realistic. He's not going to be lt this year. And at some point we need to draft and develop tackles. Not saying we need to be taking an ot at 4. But not sure about a wr there either.
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Post by jb456 on Feb 24, 2020 15:11:15 GMT -5
Are the Giants the Dallas Cowboys north? Take a WR at 4? Isn't this draft deep at WR? Trade down IMO if they are going WR, too many needs for a bright and shinny WR. Taking a WR with the 4th pick is like some dude wearing a Rolex watch while driving a Geo Metro....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Feb 24, 2020 15:13:57 GMT -5
they make good points about rookie LT’s... Expecting Andrew Thomas to solve our problems at LT this year is not realistic. Im expecting Solder to play LT to start the year with Thomas RT if we drafted him. Same with Wirfs and Wills. This was the plan with Flowers too until Beatty got hurt.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 24, 2020 15:17:24 GMT -5
I want what they smoke wonder if it relieves pain to lol. Saw something the other day in a mock and the reasoning for Jeudy not being a top 5 is that they say WR that high needs to have it all size 4.3 speed hops natural winner on 50/50 balls. Kind of like Barkely of WRs like a megatron type guy. I can't say I agree of disagree just think that WR is a need for this team but much less then OT / C /ILB OR OLB.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 24, 2020 15:22:41 GMT -5
Well...they're speculating the Giants will find a long term RT in free agency. Then draft WR. I guess if that happens WR becomes more of a possiblity. Honestly I'm actually warming up to the idea of signing C McGovern...a lot of great C prospects out there but this guy is solid..and while the idea of 80% of your O line being on rookie contracts and growing together is a great idea.. Having a vet C with a rookie I mean young 2and year QB helps with protections and gives him something less to worry about while having to learn a completely new offense again And frees up the draft (at least for me doing these things as I always target a C )to be more versatile rounds 2-5 Not a fan of a long term RT in free agency at all.... These tackles are too good not to grab one early,and with a sick group of playmakers that go 5 rounds deep ....get your guy day 2 Thats my target why pay 17 mill to Conklin when we can get a really good tackle in the draft and sign McGovern to good contract he isn't gonna be cheap but he won't be 17 mill and he has position flexability.
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Post by TEM on Feb 24, 2020 15:25:29 GMT -5
Did Marc Ross just get hired by PFF?
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Post by fifthavephil on Feb 24, 2020 15:37:11 GMT -5
Just another opinion. Could happen. This is a deep receiver class. I personally would be surprise, Giants needs, is OL and defense. Receivers we can get on day two or even three. That why I am for a trade down.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 24, 2020 16:00:58 GMT -5
Judge Jeudy
That has a nice ring
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Post by Blue Hulk on Feb 24, 2020 16:09:17 GMT -5
So we gonna run trips all game?
We don't need a WR early and We don't need a DT......
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 24, 2020 16:21:23 GMT -5
Did Marc Ross just get hired by PFF? Didn't he actually say this on NFL network (I remember post about this)? But this legit is so MarK Ross
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Post by smitty on Feb 24, 2020 16:25:15 GMT -5
It’s not a bad idea. It’s a TERRIBLE idea.
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Post by thetruth on Feb 24, 2020 16:26:57 GMT -5
Im sure if he's been touched by god he will be the pick. Far and away the best receiver in this year's class. I wouldn't hate it. We need a OT first and foremost, this is a talented class that DG's predecessor never saw. If you dont take one you move down, simple stuff. OL is hypothesized to be DG's expertise so lets see what he's all about.
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Post by thetruth on Feb 24, 2020 16:28:49 GMT -5
It’s not a bad idea. It’s a TERRIBLE idea. I would love to see the ratio of folks who thought Saquon was a good pick, but stipulate that this is a bad pick.
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 24, 2020 16:37:29 GMT -5
they make good points about rookie LT’s... Expecting Andrew Thomas to solve our problems at LT this year is not realistic. agreed. Questions about all of these guys indeed.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Feb 24, 2020 16:38:34 GMT -5
i can see it happening. It would be a good pick if we are able to sign conklin and the jags pass rusher, otherwise it needs to be oline or pass rusher if we dont trade back.
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 24, 2020 16:39:26 GMT -5
Im sure if he's been touched by god he will be the pick. Far and away the best receiver in this year's class. I wouldn't hate it. We need a OT first and foremost, this is a talented class that DG's predecessor never saw. If you dont take one you move down, simple stuff. OL is hypothesized to be DG's expertise so lets see what he's all about. Disagree. Line was ranked 16th or so last season. Defense at the bottom. Pass rush and a complete lb with coverage skills, plus a corner the bigger needs.
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Post by thetruth on Feb 24, 2020 16:43:07 GMT -5
Im sure if he's been touched by god he will be the pick. Far and away the best receiver in this year's class. I wouldn't hate it. We need a OT first and foremost, this is a talented class that DG's predecessor never saw. If you dont take one you move down, simple stuff. OL is hypothesized to be DG's expertise so lets see what he's all about. Disagree. Line was ranked 16th or so last season. Defense at the bottom. Pass rush and a complete lb with coverage skills, plus a corner the bigger needs. Line? You mean our OL? yeah, its horrible. I can't think of one position on our OL that we can say we have a good outlook other than our RG Zietler, he was an above average/average lineman last year. The rest of them are not very good at this point. Defense is at the bottom not because of coaching, but rather a complete lack of investment. $43M I believe was all we allocated last year (~$10M of which went to the great Alec Ogletree). Agree on pass rush but I dont think a LB with coverage skills is worth the #4 overall selection.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Feb 24, 2020 16:43:09 GMT -5
It’s not a bad idea. It’s a TERRIBLE idea. I would love to see the ratio of folks who thought Saquon was a good pick, but stipulate that this is a bad pick. a running back is more likely to put a team on his back then a wide receiver, give me Saquon over any of the top receivers in the league. Just give the man an oline.
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Post by thetruth on Feb 24, 2020 16:45:06 GMT -5
I would love to see the ratio of folks who thought Saquon was a good pick, but stipulate that this is a bad pick. a running back is more likely to put a team on his back then a wide receiver, give me Saquon over any of the top receivers in the league. Just give the man an oline. Judging by the contracts that are given out to top players at each position. Its not really close to see what the league values. What round was KC's RB drafted in? or how about our RB's in 2007/2011? food for thought. Having tons of $ invested into the RB position is not something that SB winning teams typically have.
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