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Post by IrishMike on Apr 14, 2020 17:19:11 GMT -5
Was just looking at contracts and McCaffrey is actually a discount at $16m per year. He should be paid $20m+
He is a top 5 RB which costs at least $10m He is also a top 20 WR which costs at least $10m
The real question is would you rather McCaffrey for $16m or Zeke for $15m or Belle for $13m?
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Post by Nick6475 on Apr 14, 2020 17:40:57 GMT -5
Was just looking at contracts and McCaffrey is actually a discount at $16m per year. He should be paid $20m+ He is a top 5 RB which costs at least $10m He is also a top 20 WR which costs at least $10m The real question is would you rather McCaffrey for $16m or Zeke for $15m or Belle for $13m? All three and run the wishbone with Zeke as the FB. Unstoppable.
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Post by giantstepz on Apr 15, 2020 17:28:40 GMT -5
There are generic "running backs" that can be drafted in the "sixth round" and there are "play-makers" - big difference. If Saquon was drafted second overall because he has HOF potential / ability then he deserves top pay. He gets the ball via passes and check-downs as well as hand-offs and can creat misses and break tackles and take it deep downfield as well as the best in the League. He certainly deserves McCaffrey money if the team starts making the Playoffs. If he fails to live up to the expectations of his role they can trade him like they did with Beckham. I don't see any issues with his career at this point. He's a hard-working, clean living professional with an unlimited ceiling and is the cornerstone of this franchise.
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Post by Morehead State on Apr 15, 2020 18:45:35 GMT -5
Saquan has a five year contract. He just finished his second season. Not sure what the concern is. I doubt he'll get a second contract anyway.
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Post by allnygin on Apr 15, 2020 19:47:16 GMT -5
If we're winning with him at RB when the time comes, sure why not. If not.. we obviously need to focus elsewhere. Having a great rb is great and all and SB is amazing, however, you need a team, not a player. I have reservations paying a RB that type of money, but I guess it really just depends when the time comes.
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Post by redeyejedi on Apr 16, 2020 4:58:21 GMT -5
Who cares. We can worry about that bridge when we get there. According to some people we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route. The best running attack we ever had we had a committee of solid backs. Depth is how you win. You can get away with paying a QB but paying a RB like that will leave you short elsewhere. Id rather pay 2 starting lineman
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 16, 2020 5:26:52 GMT -5
Who cares. We can worry about that bridge when we get there. According to some people we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route. The best running attack we ever had we had a committee of solid backs. Depth is how you win. You can get away with paying a QB but paying a RB like that will leave you short elsewhere. Id rather pay 2 starting lineman We have tried to duplicate that running attack since then without success. Other teams have tried without success. No matter who you pay you are leaving yourself short somewhere else. It's not as simple as "paying two starting OL". Just because you pay someone does not make them good. You might have a case if we had two OL worth paying. OL make way more than RBs so you can't pay 2 of them instead of 1 RB. In fact a great RB costs less than any other position.
Bottom line is there is not a blueprint on how you must build a team. You need to get yards, score TDs and stop the other team from doing the same.
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Post by bavarobeast on Apr 16, 2020 6:34:11 GMT -5
Barkley wasn’t worth 20k last year much less 20 mill.
Fix the OL and we’ll talk about what SB is worth.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 16, 2020 11:43:10 GMT -5
Anyone notice big blue view has the same article and they have Barkley making $20 mill
I wonder if the trolls will go tell Ed valentine that it’s to early for that
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 16, 2020 12:11:33 GMT -5
Anyone notice big blue view has the same article and they have Barkley making $20 mill I wonder if the trolls will go tell Ed valentine that it’s to early for that Why do you consider them to be trolls?
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 16, 2020 13:04:03 GMT -5
Anyone notice big blue view has the same article and they have Barkley making $20 mill I wonder if the trolls will go tell Ed valentine that it’s to early for that Why do you consider them to be trolls? To be on a message board and call someone names for trying to spark a conversation is utter stupidity. The point of a message board is to bounce ideas. This is not a news site People telling me when it’s appropriate to discuss salary can go get bent.
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 16, 2020 13:45:46 GMT -5
Why do you consider them to be trolls? To be on a message board and call someone names for trying to spark a conversation is utter stupidity. The point of a message board is to bounce ideas. This is not a news site People telling me when it’s appropriate to discuss salary can go get bent. I didn't recall anywhere on this thread where you were called names but in re-reading it I do see one poster responding in a completely unproductive way. As far as comments about timing, I believe folks are entitled to state that they're unconcerned with three years down the road at this time and that's fair. But that doesn't shut down the conversation for those that do find it a worthwhile discussion. And it seems that many do. Fully agree that you need not and should not concern yourself with any/all posts or posters you find ignorant.
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Post by lt56 on Apr 17, 2020 14:40:01 GMT -5
They better add another Playmaking RB NOW as insurance but also to keep Barkley healthy and so that he doesn't end up "washed up" by 25 years old like Todd Gurley
No I don't think you pay a Running Back that amount in this ERA which is mostly a Passing League ERA
As much as I like Barkley, You can also find Running Backs in Middle/Later Rounds
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 17, 2020 15:07:47 GMT -5
To be on a message board and call someone names for trying to spark a conversation is utter stupidity. The point of a message board is to bounce ideas. This is not a news site People telling me when it’s appropriate to discuss salary can go get bent. I didn't recall anywhere on this thread where you were called names but in re-reading it I do see one poster responding in a completely unproductive way. As far as comments about timing, I believe folks are entitled to state that they're unconcerned with three years down the road at this time and that's fair. But that doesn't shut down the conversation for those that do find it a worthwhile discussion. And it seems that many do. Fully agree that you need not and should not concern yourself with any/all posts or posters you find ignorant. I agree but I do think there is a difference in saying you're not concerned with it and complaining that people are discussing it. Not sure how many people complained about it in this thread but it's a common theme on the internet. They read a thread titled "Talk about Odell" and then open the thread, hit reply and type "talking about Odell is dumb". Why did they open the thread?
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Post by mikethenygfan on Apr 17, 2020 18:31:37 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me how having a great RB that touches the ball 25 times a game is not considered a great thing and worth the money? Ask a Rams fan. It is a great thing while it lasts, the problem is shelf life. you should check your facts before you post. Gurley has had knee issues since college. The rams took a risk, and now everyone who has no clue what there talking about is like see rbs dont last.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 17, 2020 19:45:30 GMT -5
They better add another Playmaking RB NOW as insurance but also to keep Barkley healthy and so that he doesn't end up "washed up" by 25 years old like Todd Gurley No I don't think you pay a Running Back that amount in this ERA which is mostly a Passing League ERA As much as I like Barkley, You can also find Running Backs in Middle/Later Rounds Gurley is washed up because he came into the league with a shredded knee risky pick in the first he gave them 3-4 good years now he needs to be managed.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 17, 2020 19:53:31 GMT -5
Why do you consider them to be trolls? To be on a message board and call someone names for trying to spark a conversation is utter stupidity. The point of a message board is to bounce ideas. This is not a news site People telling me when it’s appropriate to discuss salary can go get bent. Barkely isn't up yet but the bigger fact that not many people are discussing is the fact the cap is supposed to jump more then it ever has the next few years. Now with this virus affecting the economy it might not be as significant. That is why this might not really matter we will have to wait and see. they will get a clearer picture with Lewis here to spell SQB he is multi purpose in his own right. used correctly with improvement on the OL SQB should be able to really show more as if he hasn't showed enough I think there is more. Catching posts and deep angles for TDs isn't in most running backs arsenal we have seen it with Barkely already.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 18, 2020 12:34:49 GMT -5
To be on a message board and call someone names for trying to spark a conversation is utter stupidity. The point of a message board is to bounce ideas. This is not a news site People telling me when it’s appropriate to discuss salary can go get bent. Barkely isn't up yet but the bigger fact that not many people are discussing is the fact the cap is supposed to jump more then it ever has the next few years. Now with this virus affecting the economy it might not be as significant. That is why this might not really matter we will have to wait and see. they will get a clearer picture with Lewis here to spell SQB he is multi purpose in his own right. used correctly with improvement on the OL SQB should be able to really show more as if he hasn't showed enough I think there is more. Catching posts and deep angles for TDs isn't in most running backs arsenal we have seen it with Barkely already. Personally I think people are making way too big of a deal about this cap jump. It has been going up $10m a year pretty steadily. The new CBA increased the player portion by about 1%. I don't see this huge jump that the talking heads keep throwing out there. Plus like you said with the virus things might actually go down hard this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap goes up $12m instead of $10m but I highly doubt it jumps $40m like I have seen talking heads say.
Just my take.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 18, 2020 12:51:55 GMT -5
Barkely isn't up yet but the bigger fact that not many people are discussing is the fact the cap is supposed to jump more then it ever has the next few years. Now with this virus affecting the economy it might not be as significant. That is why this might not really matter we will have to wait and see. they will get a clearer picture with Lewis here to spell SQB he is multi purpose in his own right. used correctly with improvement on the OL SQB should be able to really show more as if he hasn't showed enough I think there is more. Catching posts and deep angles for TDs isn't in most running backs arsenal we have seen it with Barkely already. Personally I think people are making way too big of a deal about this cap jump. It has been going up $10m a year pretty steadily. The new CBA increased the player portion by about 1%. I don't see this huge jump that the talking heads keep throwing out there. Plus like you said with the virus things might actually go down hard this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap goes up $12m instead of $10m but I highly doubt it jumps $40m like I have seen talking heads say.
Just my take.
I was anticipating it being 20 mill not the 40 they were saying. We will see it's gonna be dicey with this Virus now we are counting on the states to do the right thing sometimes the right thing isn't the best thing for the near future and it sucks for everyone that has go to food banks and prey for Government help. but if they screw this opening of the country up it will set us back further. Hopefully we see football this year just to take our minds off it.
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