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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 18:35:46 GMT -5
Considering McCaffrey just re-upped for $16 mill with more production. By the time Saquon is eligible for a new deal, he'll need $20 mill in this high tax market.....even with all that endorsement money.. Then by the time DJ gets a new deal, he'll be getting $30+ million. so 50 mill a year to two players? We better be a consistent playoff team for the next 3 years....
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 18:44:06 GMT -5
Who cares. We can worry about that bridge when we get there. According to some people we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 13, 2020 18:45:34 GMT -5
oh well.....what can you do?
either they are worth keeping or they are not
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 13, 2020 18:45:50 GMT -5
If the Giants pay him that kind of money they’re ******* idiots.. I’ve said this before, I would really consider not resigning him. A running backs lifespan on the field is short compared to other positions. Granted, he’ll only be 25 by the time he hits free agency. But that is a lot of money to invest in a position that is slowly becoming unimportant.
Luckily, we don’t have to be concerned about this right now.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 18:54:07 GMT -5
If the Giants pay him that kind of money they’re ******* idiots.. I’ve said this before, I would really consider not resigning him. A running backs lifespan on the field is short compared to other positions. Granted, he’ll only be 25 by the time he hits free agency. But that is a lot of money to invest in a position that is slowly becoming unimportant. Luckily, we don’t have to be concerned about this right now. LMAO.
Yeah all those empty backfield formations are taking over the NFL.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 18:54:37 GMT -5
we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route. Totally concur
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Post by jb456 on Apr 13, 2020 18:54:51 GMT -5
If the Giants pay him that kind of money they’re ******* idiots.. I’ve said this before, I would really consider not resigning him. A running backs lifespan on the field is short compared to other positions. Granted, he’ll only be 25 by the time he hits free agency. But that is a lot of money to invest in a position that is slowly becoming unimportant. Luckily, we don’t have to be concerned about this right now. It shouldn't be a a given that they resign him. It should depend on his production and the cost. Also, he had a down year last year and that injury really hurt him. If I were Barkley and I had a great 2020 season, I would hold out like Elliot did. Running backs due have short shelf lives...
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 13, 2020 18:57:13 GMT -5
If the Giants pay him that kind of money they’re ******* idiots.. I’ve said this before, I would really consider not resigning him. A running backs lifespan on the field is short compared to other positions. Granted, he’ll only be 25 by the time he hits free agency. But that is a lot of money to invest in a position that is slowly becoming unimportant. Luckily, we don’t have to be concerned about this right now. LMAO.
Yeah all those empty backfield formations are taking over the NFL.
I said that? If you got that from my post we have far bigger issues here than Barkley and his future contract. IrishMike can’t comprehend the English language. If you think the running back position is as important as wide receiver, or hell pick a position you will be wrong.
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Post by sundown on Apr 13, 2020 19:00:28 GMT -5
This thread will be 15 pages long of bickering. I’ll sit on the sidelines and watch....
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Apr 13, 2020 19:04:03 GMT -5
That's why you bolster the OL this year; give Saquon the holes to run through and he will take it to the house every time as opposed to going down on the first tackle 3-6 yards from LOS like most RB's.....TD's=wins, wins=playoffs, playoffs=possible Super Bowls=pay Saquon Barkley.
If not, turns out it was a bad pick at 2.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 13, 2020 19:04:32 GMT -5
If the Giants pay him that kind of money they’re ******* idiots.. I’ve said this before, I would really consider not resigning him. A running backs lifespan on the field is short compared to other positions. Granted, he’ll only be 25 by the time he hits free agency. But that is a lot of money to invest in a position that is slowly becoming unimportant. Luckily, we don’t have to be concerned about this right now. It shouldn't be a a given that they resign him. It should depend on his production and the cost. Also, he had a down year last year and that injury really hurt him. If I were Barkley and I had a great 2020 season, I would hold out like Elliot did. Running backs due have short shelf lives... That’s fair. I tend to be in the camp of not overspending on that position. I thought Dallas was foolish paying Elliott. Now, if this was football from the early ‘90s I would think differently. The game back then was feed your lead horse 20-25 a game and eat the clock.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 19:08:22 GMT -5
LMAO.
Yeah all those empty backfield formations are taking over the NFL.
I said that? If you got that from my post we have far bigger issues here than Barkley and his future contract. IrishMike can’t comprehend the English language. If you think the running back position is as important as wide receiver, or hell pick a position you will be wrong. You didn't say it is less important than WR, you said it is becoming UNIMPORTANT. Perhaps you chose the wrong word? Just going off your post man. I don't think any player that touches the ball 20-30 times a game is unimportant. Pretty sure the RB being on the field is kind of important or they wouldn't be there.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 13, 2020 19:14:19 GMT -5
I said that? If you got that from my post we have far bigger issues here than Barkley and his future contract. IrishMike can’t comprehend the English language. If you think the running back position is as important as wide receiver, or hell pick a position you will be wrong. You didn't say it is less important than WR, you said it is becoming UNIMPORTANT. Perhaps you chose the wrong word? Just going off your post man. I don't think any player that touches the ball 20-30 times a game is unimportant. Pretty sure the RB being on the field is kind of important or they wouldn't be there. Look at the league now. It has become a passing league, the running back position which is not extinct is just not used as much as it used to be. Will players like Barkley and Elliott get their touches? Of course, they’re high draft picks who happen to be extremely talented. But, and this has been proven time and time again the running back position is slowly becoming a position that is less featured. The backs now besides the two I named are glorified receivers now who happen to play running back. If we have to pay either Barkley or Jones who do you think would be the wise investment? It’s quarterback every single time. I want money invested in the offensive line, edge rushers and cornerbacks. Those positions when spent wisely generate wins on the field.
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Post by TEM on Apr 13, 2020 19:17:23 GMT -5
This entire thread is based upon speculation.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 13, 2020 19:18:11 GMT -5
Considering McCaffrey just re-upped for $16 mill with more production. By the time Saquon is eligible for a new deal, he'll need $20 mill in this high tax market.....even with all that endorsement money.. Then by the time DJ gets a new deal, he'll be getting $30+ million. so 50 mill a year to two players? We better be a consistent playoff team for the next 3 years.... DJ will be the first $50M per year QB
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 19:18:26 GMT -5
That's why you bolster the OL this year; give Saquon the holes to run through and he will take it to the house every time as opposed to going down on the first tackle 3-6 yards from LOS like most RB's.....TD's=wins, wins=playoffs, playoffs=possible Super Bowls=pay Saquon Barkley. If not, turns out it was a bad pick at 2. We better draft OL every year because we won't be able to afford a decent OL. Look at the fiasco in Dallas because they have an expensive RB.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 19:21:17 GMT -5
This entire thread is based upon speculation. Dude...Deductive reasoning and speculation are very different. It's not hard to forecast Saquon's future salary. If he really is the best RB in the league as some people think, then he'll get $20 mill from someone. I saw this coming and I pointed it out. Would the patriots ever field a RB making QB money? Would the Patriots even re-sign a running back? NOPE. Some of you guys need to take off your leather helmets and embrace this pass first league
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 19:22:18 GMT -5
Look at the league now. It has become a passing league, the running back position which is not extinct is just not used as much as it used to be. Will players like Barkley and Elliott get their touches? Of course, they’re high draft picks who happen to be extremely talented. But, and this has been proven time and time again the running back position is slowly becoming a position that is less featured. The backs now besides the two I named ate glorified receivers now who happen to play running back. If we have to pay either Barkley or Jones who do you think would be the wise investment? It’s quarterback every single time. I want money invested in the offensive line, edge rushers and cornerbacks. Those positions when spent wisely generate wins on the field. I'm not saying you should pay your RB this or that, I just think you are wrong about the RB position. Christian McCaffrey touched the ball 25 times a game last year and was #2 in the league in receptions. Barkley has touched the ball 21+ times per game in his career. Yes it is a passing league and the RB is still extremely important. Forget about having to run the ball, that's a given; but the modern RB is catching the ball as much as WRs and they are staying in to pass protect.
I agree the position changed but it's still super important. Regardless of where you want your money invested you still need a capable RB and in this NFL he has to be able to run, catch and pass protect. Again not saying we have to pay Barkley.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 13, 2020 19:24:03 GMT -5
This entire thread is based upon speculation. Hey, gee718 is many things. A Star Wars fan, Chad Wheelers biggest supporter, and last but not least he likes to laugh at his own jokes. But a speculator? Now that’s where I draw the line. Yeah this thread is 2 years early, but it’s a fair conversation.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 19:26:19 GMT -5
Dude...Deductive reasoning and speculation are very different. It's not hard to forecast Saquon's future salary. If he really is the best RB in the league as some people think, then he'll get $20 mill from someone. I saw this coming and I pointed it out. Would the patriots ever field a RB making QB money? Would the Patriots even re-sign a running back? NOPE. Some of you guys need to take off your leather helmets and embrace this pass first league First off that's not going to be QB money.
Second, seriously with the Pats? The Pats also don't re-sign their LT, their pass rushers, their CBs and even their HOF QBs. They are a bad example lol.
It honestly entirely depends what type of offense we have in 3 years. If we have an offense scoring 30+ a game and Barkley is getting a ton of carries and catches and is a huge part of the offense it will be hard to let him walk. If we have an offense that stinks, easy to let him walk. If we have an offense (like those Pats) built around a HOF QB and scheme that makes use of the mailman then yes we can let him walk.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 13, 2020 19:26:24 GMT -5
Nevemind the fact the cap will go up bigtime the next few years..
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 19:28:57 GMT -5
Considering McCaffrey just re-upped for $16 mill with more production. By the time Saquon is eligible for a new deal, he'll need $20 mill in this high tax market.....even with all that endorsement money.. Then by the time DJ gets a new deal, he'll be getting $30+ million. so 50 mill a year to two players? We better be a consistent playoff team for the next 3 years.... DJ will be the first $50M per year QBJesus take the wheel.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 13, 2020 19:29:23 GMT -5
Considering McCaffrey just re-upped for $16 mill with more production. By the time Saquon is eligible for a new deal, he'll need $20 mill in this high tax market.....even with all that endorsement money.. Then by the time DJ gets a new deal, he'll be getting $30+ million. so 50 mill a year to two players? We better be a consistent playoff team for the next 3 years.... Who knows what the cap will be but yes that is a little scary.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 19:30:25 GMT -5
Who cares. We can worry about that bridge when we get there. According to some people we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route. Jerry Reese...is that you? The last time we crossed that bridge, the team went to s--t.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 13, 2020 19:30:44 GMT -5
What the hell are we worried about 3-4 years down the road ? The cap could be close to 400 million in 4 years. Next year was suppose to be a tremendous jump. We'll see what happens now with this pandemic.
If Barkley has 3 years anything like his rookie year 1300 yds rushing, 700 receiving, 100 catches, umpteen TD's and is healthy and at 25 just going into his prime and you could get another 5 years like that. People are going to complain what it cost to keep him ? Everything is going to be relative to the cap. Maybe we'll be smart like Carolina and sign him early that way in the long run were saving money.
Lets not invent more problems this year, we don't have enough ? Barkley and Jones for now are our least problems.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 13, 2020 19:30:47 GMT -5
Nevemind the fact the cap will go up bigtime the next few years..
Not so fast. This pandemic may alter sports more than we know.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 13, 2020 19:34:07 GMT -5
Nevemind the fact the cap will go up bigtime the next few years..
Not so fast. This pandemic may alter sports more than we know.
Oops Yeah
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Post by Blue Hulk on Apr 13, 2020 19:35:26 GMT -5
Exactly. Ticket sales might be down for the next couple of years...if they resume playing at all....
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 13, 2020 19:41:01 GMT -5
This entire thread is based upon speculation. Hey, gee718 is many things. A Star Wars fan, Chad Wheelers biggest supporter, and last but not least he likes to laugh at his own jokes. But a speculator? Now that’s where I draw the line. Yeah this thread is 2 years early, but it’s a fair conversation. Absolutely. We have multi page threads based on speculation around here all the time.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 13, 2020 19:42:03 GMT -5
Who cares. We can worry about that bridge when we get there. According to some people we can replace him with a 6th round pick so maybe we go that route. Jerry Reese...is that you? The last time we crossed that bridge, the team went to s--t. Which bridge was that? I don't remember Jerry giving a big pay day to a RB. All his money went to pass rushers and CBs. Probably would have been better off signing a RB honestly lol.
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