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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:14:48 GMT -5
Aaaaand, somehow Gettleman gets blamed for this loss. Dude, look at the talent on this team. It's a joke from top to bottom. Name one player any team has to scheme for on offense or defense. Hell the best player on this team is our 5th rd pick slayton. The round a person is drafted in no longer matters after 2 years. Do teams say how is this QB named Tom Brady a 6th round pick beating us.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 14, 2020 21:15:12 GMT -5
This game went as expected. The Steelers are just better. Nothing more or less to say. The effort was there by the Giants, but the talent simply is not there. Yup the Steelers have a top 5 D against the run and the pass and loaded offense they are gonna contend. I heard yesterday here that the weakness of the Steelers D is their run defense. Now they are great against the run.
It's confusing.
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 14, 2020 21:15:12 GMT -5
"The corner" is not a sharp 90° turn. It's a lengthy arc. Perhaps we've started around that curve already. What have you seen tonight that even slightly makes you think we turned the corner. The reality of that game is offensively we had one long pass to Slayton for 6 points. Other then that it was garbage We had a 19 play drive against one of the best defenses in the league when the game was still close.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 14, 2020 21:15:20 GMT -5
Jones looked like a player who missed the preseason more than anyone. He was not sharp tonight. I disagree. I think he was sharp but for the turnovers. Problem is that the one turnover was fatal This is the right assessment. Was accurate all night. We couldn't even gain positive yards in runs and we're still able to move the ball through the air. Needed to try and throw that ball away .5 seconds earlier. Cannot have that happen when it did. Just becomes an arbitrary waste of clock then.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 14, 2020 21:16:03 GMT -5
Dude, look at the talent on this team. It's a joke from top to bottom. Name one player any team has to scheme for on offense or defense. Hell the best player on this team is our 5th rd pick slayton. The round a person is drafted in no longer matters after 2 years. Do teams say how is this QB named Tom Brady a 6th round pick beating us. Brady is such a massive outlier.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:17:02 GMT -5
Sure the team has a new head coach and system but the fact remains this Oline was horrid and I expected much more than they showed. They couldn't run block at all. It's a major concern and giving it excuses is not something I can do. Its the reason they lost tonight and will continue to without improving greatly. Barkley is being wasted in his prime. Being Wasted? Brother that ship has sailed. This is his last year before he demands a block buster contract which I hope we don’t give him.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:17:25 GMT -5
Theres gonna be some good teams that lose to the Steelers worse than 26-16 And there will be some bad teams that beat the Giants worse than 26-16 too. We are who our record says we are. And the past 3 years we are the worst team in the NFL. We played well for a few spurts today. But when we needed to show up we didnt, as usual.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 14, 2020 21:17:30 GMT -5
Not sure that we see Gates again at Center for a while. He was terrible
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Post by JoeyCush on Sept 14, 2020 21:17:55 GMT -5
Lets not overreact and forget our OL with a Rookie LT, first year Center and backup RT were playing arguably the best front 7 in Football.
Daniel Jones can not make that mistake in the Redzone but that drive was ridiculous. Need to get points out of that.
Run blocking was real bad. Fleming and Gates were not good. Hopefully they improve. Thomas was real solid. He will be a franchise LT.
Evan Engram continues to disappoint.
The defense was surprising. I will give Graham credit for the first half, that was impressive. In the second half, I thought they played way too much zone. And I never want to see Dexter Lawrence drop into coverage again for as long as I live.
Martinez was everywhere. Didnt see Downs do anything outside of the fumbled punt.
Secondary will continue to struggle with Ballentine, Yiadom and Colbert getting significant playing time.
With all that said, this team fought hard. I think they will get better, much better as the games go on.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 21:18:09 GMT -5
Yup the Steelers have a top 5 D against the run and the pass and loaded offense they are gonna contend. I heard yesterday here that the weakness of the Steelers D is their run defense. Now they are great against the run.
It's confusing.
And what was I saying ? I'm glad they came out in shotgun and was aggressive
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:18:22 GMT -5
The round a person is drafted in no longer matters after 2 years. Do teams say how is this QB named Tom Brady a 6th round pick beating us. Brady is such a massive outlier. Well there is plenty examples I could have used especially with Running back that are better then our #2 overall pick I get what you are saying though. We have no talent
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Post by GameTime on Sept 14, 2020 21:18:22 GMT -5
Some good Some really really good
Some bad Some really really bad
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Post by giants8493 on Sept 14, 2020 21:18:23 GMT -5
Post game interviews??? I hear the radio but no judge conference?
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Post by Martin on Sept 14, 2020 21:20:30 GMT -5
Jones looks nothing like a franchise QB Barkley looks nothing like a "gold jacket player" Thomas is TBD. Disagree completely The Oline cannot run block. Horrid and this means a long season until this unit comes together. Jones and Barkley cannot reach their potential without an Oline that can run block period. Yes the Steelers have a good D line and LB's but by God the G men Oline was putrid. No excuses.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:20:43 GMT -5
I see a lot of good things every year. They haven't been translating to wins though. Its getting old. Guess we have to wait until 2021 to see if we can turn the corner. "The corner" is not a sharp 90° turn. It's a lengthy arc. Perhaps we've started around that curve already. Perhaps the arc continued and we are a full 360 degrees, right back where we started
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 14, 2020 21:21:05 GMT -5
Sure the team has a new head coach and system but the fact remains this Oline was horrid and I expected much more than they showed. They couldn't run block at all. It's a major concern and giving it excuses is not something I can do. Its the reason they lost tonight and will continue to without improving greatly. Barkley is being wasted in his prime. With all due respect, how could you have expected much more? Pittsburgh has an elite pass rush and we started a rookie LT who had no preseason and a Center who had never played the position before at any level.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 14, 2020 21:22:27 GMT -5
Will Hernandez is not the player he was represented to be. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lemieux in there before the end of the season
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 14, 2020 21:22:51 GMT -5
What have you seen tonight that even slightly makes you think we turned the corner. The reality of that game is offensively we had one long pass to Slayton for 6 points. Other then that it was garbage We had a 19 play drive against one of the best defenses in the league when the game was still close. And the defense actually looked good at times,and to be honest I think this unit can actually he really good by the end of the season if it stays healthy Ballentine didn't embarrass himself like many predicted,seems Ben didn't throw his way that much meaning he had good coverage Carter is going to be legit... Give it time
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 14, 2020 21:23:55 GMT -5
Yup the Steelers have a top 5 D against the run and the pass and loaded offense they are gonna contend. I heard yesterday here that the weakness of the Steelers D is their run defense. Now they are great against the run.
It's confusing.
Who said that. They are top 5 in both run and pass D I think they might have be #1 in one of those category's who ever said that was wrong.
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 14, 2020 21:24:38 GMT -5
The Oline cannot run block. Horrid and this means a long season until this unit comes together. Jones and Barkley cannot reach their potential without an Oline that can run block period. Yes the Steelers have a good D line and LB's but by God the G men Oline was putrid. No excuses. I agree but did you really expect much from this oline that has never played together and no off season or pre season games? Plus we have a FREAKING TACKLE PLAYING CENTER!!! Giants need a Center AND a RT...still plus time to gell.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 14, 2020 21:27:04 GMT -5
Not sure that we see Gates again at Center for a while. He was terrible I stick to my statement that the biggest failure by DG is the failure to address such an important position. Gates was awful, you can’t make Voltron with 4 lions.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 14, 2020 21:27:23 GMT -5
Will Hernandez is not the player he was represented to be. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lemieux in there before the end of the season The problem was Gates he was getting killed on numerous plays there was no one over Dupree on at least 4 rushes don't know who's responsibility he was. I think the Guards were the least of that OLs problems today.
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 14, 2020 21:27:48 GMT -5
Sure the team has a new head coach and system but the fact remains this Oline was horrid and I expected much more than they showed. They couldn't run block at all. It's a major concern and giving it excuses is not something I can do. Its the reason they lost tonight and will continue to without improving greatly. Barkley is being wasted in his prime. With all due respect, how could you have expected much more? Pittsburgh has an elite pass rush and we started a rookie LT who had no preseason and a Center who had never played the position before at any level. Why is it that no one understands the importance of the Center position? That guy is supposed to be the QB of your Oline...one of the smartest guys as well as toughest on your entire team. We are starting a Tackle at Center! SERIOUSLY?!?!?
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 14, 2020 21:28:06 GMT -5
Cant wait for the pros and cons thread lol
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Post by boxcarwillie on Sept 14, 2020 21:29:15 GMT -5
"The corner" is not a sharp 90° turn. It's a lengthy arc. Perhaps we've started around that curve already. What have you seen tonight that even slightly makes you think we turned the corner. The reality of that game is offensively we had one long pass to Slayton for 6 points. Other then that it was garbage I thought DJ was decent, pass blocking not bad, shep and slayton very good. Special teams good. Blake M, Peppers, Brad IV, Leonard W, BJ Hill, Lorenzo all looked good to me. Not alot of stupid penalties and mistakes. They executed a 19 play drive that could've given a 17-16 lead late in the 3rd Q. (yes, it went up in smoke,but I'm doing the positives here) Was it a blow out? Did Pitt rack up a ton of rush yards? Pass yards? NO Did we move the ball pretty well? YES If you can't see it, you are of course entitled to your own perspective. To say "hot garbage from start to finish" is clearly an untrue statement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 21:31:09 GMT -5
What have you seen tonight that even slightly makes you think we turned the corner. The reality of that game is offensively we had one long pass to Slayton for 6 points. Other then that it was garbage I thought DJ was decent, pass blocking not bad, shep and slayton very good. Special teams good. Blake M, Peppers, Brad IV, Leonard W, BJ Hill, Lorenzo all looked good to me. Not alot of stupid penalties and mistakes. They executed a 19 play drive that could've given a 17-16 lead late in the 3rd Q. (yes, it went up in smoke,but I'm doing the positives here) Was it a blow out? Did Pitt rack up a ton of rush yards? Pass yards? NO Did we move the ball pretty well? YES If you can't see it, you are of course entitled to your own perspective. To say "hot garbage from start to finish" is clearly an untrue statement. I didn’t say hot garbage. I actually did a Good and Bad thread. The fact is after 3 Low draft positions we should be a lot further then we are
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Post by boxcarwillie on Sept 14, 2020 21:31:10 GMT -5
Some good Some really really good Some bad Some really really bad Sums it up perfectly
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Post by yoho on Sept 14, 2020 21:33:22 GMT -5
What the heck did you expect from this O-line when they have a new center, who by the way has to call the line signals, and has never started at center before, and is playing against a quality defensive line. The line is going to take time to gel, plain and simple. It doesn't mean they suck. Going to have to be patient.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Sept 14, 2020 21:36:02 GMT -5
I thought DJ was decent, pass blocking not bad, shep and slayton very good. Special teams good. Blake M, Peppers, Brad IV, Leonard W, BJ Hill, Lorenzo all looked good to me. Not alot of stupid penalties and mistakes. They executed a 19 play drive that could've given a 17-16 lead late in the 3rd Q. (yes, it went up in smoke,but I'm doing the positives here) Was it a blow out? Did Pitt rack up a ton of rush yards? Pass yards? NO Did we move the ball pretty well? YES If you can't see it, you are of course entitled to your own perspective. To say "hot garbage from start to finish" is clearly an untrue statement. I didn’t say hot garbage. I actually did a Good and Bad thread. The fact is after 3 Low draft positions we should be a lot further then we are On to Chicago
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 14, 2020 21:36:39 GMT -5
The best OLineman was Thomas.
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