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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 13, 2020 12:30:58 GMT -5
I still dont see the Jags going QB unless its Lawrence. I forgot about Carolina but Bridgewater is playing well there. I could see Dallas going in on Fields if he has a great year again. They are set up nicely to get a rookie QB and have success. Problem is that they won't have enough firepower to move up Would be awkward if we have the number 2 Id be asking for Lamb,their 2 this year and 1st rounder in 2022 minimum They only have 2 wins right now, and just lost their QB for the year. They are a bad team that could realistically only win 4-5 games. So they might not have to move up too far. Hell, depending what happens, Fields could fall into their lap like Lamb did.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 15, 2020 15:04:28 GMT -5
With that said I'm not going to lie And I was one of the few certified in 2019 on the Jones train and I still think he can be better than Eli ...
If we are number 1 I will have a very hard time passing on Spicoli unless a team offers up a Hershal Walker caliber deal (Minimum 3 extra 1st round picks and multiple day 2 picks spread out into the 2024 draft )
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 15, 2020 15:30:16 GMT -5
I just don't think that's the Giants way. If they do lean that way, you gotta assume Judge is the deciding factor there. I think trading the pick is more likely. And then Gettelman willl say in interviews later that that was his plan the whole time. No way we get the #1 pick and Gettleman stays have you seen enough of Gettleman and would like a change at GM?
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 15, 2020 15:55:14 GMT -5
No way we get the #1 pick and Gettleman stays have you seen enough of Gettleman and would like a change at GM? Yes, but a case will be made for him to stay if we go on a 10 game winning streak. . But if we finish with the worst record in football, he is 100% gone as he should be.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 15, 2020 16:07:34 GMT -5
have you seen enough of Gettleman and would like a change at GM? Yes, but a case will be made for him to stay if we go on a 10 game winning streak. . But if we finish with the worst record in football, he is 100% gone as he should be. if we win 10 games I want him to stay too but at this point in time it looks very uncertain for him..
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Post by Nite on Oct 17, 2020 12:36:55 GMT -5
Clemson is a machine.. 3 turnovers in the 1st half and up by 31 pts? Wow..
Erp.. make that 38 pts ... George Tech is a decent team too..
Lawrence is the most legit No 1 pick I have ever seen. He is pro ready - right now. Compares favorably with P Manning and Luck...If unfortunately we are in position to pick no. 1, not taking Lawrence is a fire-able offense -.. scratch that if we are picking no. 1 then Gettlemen is already gone along with (hopefully) some of the front office and we are taking Lawrence. If DJ improves this season, he may be marketable for draft picks
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 17, 2020 17:28:50 GMT -5
Clemson is a machine.. 3 turnovers in the 1st half and up by 31 pts? Wow.. Erp.. make that 38 pts ... George Tech is a decent team too.. Lawrence is the most legit No 1 pick I have ever seen. He is pro ready - right now. Compares favorably with P Manning and Luck...If unfortunately we are in position to pick no. 1, not taking Lawrence is a fire-able offense -.. scratch that if we are picking no. 1 then Gettlemen is already gone along with (hopefully) some of the front office and we are taking Lawrence. If DJ improves this season, he may be marketable for draft picks Sadly if we are tied witb the Jets at 0-16(which is what it would take to get 1st overall)we still lose out based on strength of Schedule.... Even the Patriots are down this yewr
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Post by JoeyCush on Oct 17, 2020 19:50:12 GMT -5
Clemson is a machine.. 3 turnovers in the 1st half and up by 31 pts? Wow.. Erp.. make that 38 pts ... George Tech is a decent team too.. Lawrence is the most legit No 1 pick I have ever seen. He is pro ready - right now. Compares favorably with P Manning and Luck...If unfortunately we are in position to pick no. 1, not taking Lawrence is a fire-able offense -.. scratch that if we are picking no. 1 then Gettlemen is already gone along with (hopefully) some of the front office and we are taking Lawrence. If DJ improves this season, he may be marketable for draft picks Sadly if we are tied witb the Jets at 0-16(which is what it would take to get 1st overall)we still lose out based on strength of Schedule.... Even the Patriots are down this yewr Jets usually screw themselves out of draft positioning. I see them somehow winning two games they shouldnt. Might come down to us and Falcons Lol
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 18, 2020 7:50:31 GMT -5
Clemson is a machine.. 3 turnovers in the 1st half and up by 31 pts? Wow.. Erp.. make that 38 pts ... George Tech is a decent team too.. Lawrence is the most legit No 1 pick I have ever seen. He is pro ready - right now. Compares favorably with P Manning and Luck...If unfortunately we are in position to pick no. 1, not taking Lawrence is a fire-able offense -.. scratch that if we are picking no. 1 then Gettlemen is already gone along with (hopefully) some of the front office and we are taking Lawrence. If DJ improves this season, he may be marketable for draft picks Sadly if we are tied witb the Jets at 0-16(which is what it would take to get 1st overall)we still lose out based on strength of Schedule.... Even the Patriots are down this yewr By the end of the year, you would have to think them playing the Bills and Pats 2x and us playing the NFC Least would help us in any SOS tie breaker.
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Post by Nite on Oct 18, 2020 17:14:49 GMT -5
With that said I'm not going to lie And I was one of the few certified in 2019 on the Jones train and I still think he can be better than Eli ... If we are number 1 I will have a very hard time passing on Spicoli unless a team offers up a Hershal Walker caliber deal (Minimum 3 extra 1st round picks and multiple day 2 picks spread out into the 2024 draft ) Yeah and who would you trust to draft them?. Getty's not long for the organization given his track record. You would need a new fresh perspective on college personnel that would work hand-in-glove with Judge and co
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 20, 2020 15:33:32 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay....
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 20, 2020 17:27:24 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay.... Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 21, 2020 7:12:55 GMT -5
Looks like the Jets will win the Lawrence sweepstakes.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 21, 2020 7:34:17 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay.... Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it this is a tough business and most job security is based on wins and progress and if that's the case it looks like Gettleman has gone as far as he can go with the Giants and that's too bad because I liked him....
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Post by SG88 on Oct 21, 2020 10:33:02 GMT -5
Looks like the Jets will win the Lawrence sweepstakes. There's still plenty of football left. Haha
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Post by SG88 on Oct 21, 2020 10:34:00 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay.... Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it IMO they should do it now. There is still plenty that he could do prior to the trade deadline
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 25, 2020 12:13:25 GMT -5
Jags are a sneaky team to get back into the Lawrence sweepstakes
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 26, 2020 19:17:19 GMT -5
Jags are a sneaky team to get back into the Lawrence sweepstakes I still don't see it for them, although of they have the #1 pick, I can see it. I still say Jets or Falcons.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 27, 2020 8:17:43 GMT -5
I think if I'm Trevor Lawrence and the Giants draft me I'd be pissed...
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 27, 2020 9:46:13 GMT -5
I think if I'm Trevor Lawrence and the Giants draft me I'd be pissed... More than getting drafted by the Jets?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2020 11:35:52 GMT -5
I think if I'm Trevor Lawrence and the Giants draft me I'd be pissed... More than getting drafted by the Jets? The Giants actually have a 40 year history of getting it right every 7 or so years... Judge to me is the reason I'm confident they are heading in the right direction Like I said it will be a miracle if we end up with the number 1 overall..... Hypothetically we do We can get an 2ne for Jones ...teams are looking at how Tanyhill was salvaged and Jones arguably has some better skillsets ...a team like Pittsburgh could take him to take over for Big Ben seamlessly You get a guy like Gallup in so now they have instant twin high end number 2 dynamic deep threats to back defenses away from the box so Barkley actually can have room to operate... Get one of the edge rushers on the market to augment the nice foundation we have built on defense (also bringing back Williams ,Tomlinson and Logan Ryan....relax..reseting at qb means we reset his rookie contract we will have to extend our huge cap space 3 extra years out) So Lawrence Then (sorry "BUT BUT .NOOOOOO...WE NEED DEFENSE...ONLY DEFENSE baying bovine..this time build everything around the new qb)BPA round Lawrence..get a guy like Bateman,Olave,or Coxie,more depth on O line..especially if they don't want to give Hernandez a 2nd contract..Ferrell from Ohio state is a perfect clone to Kaden Smith) this is how I do it if I reset at QB And this is how Garrett has players to work with to help develop any qb
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 27, 2020 15:26:26 GMT -5
I think if I'm Trevor Lawrence and the Giants draft me I'd be pissed... More than getting drafted by the Jets? it would be close...
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2020 19:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 28, 2020 7:55:39 GMT -5
I hinted at this, in another thread a few days ago. I didn't follow the draft, back when Eli was taken by the Chargers but manipulated the trade to our team. Exactly how does a college player get that done? What if he really wants to go to... say the Cowboys?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2020 8:05:43 GMT -5
I hinted at this, in another thread a few days ago. I didn't follow the draft, back when Eli was taken by the Chargers but manipulated the trade to our team. Exactly how does a college player get that done? What if he really wants to go to... say the Cowboys? He is a Falcon fan in all likelihood.. If they are in full reboot and not close enough they could trade Ryan and go full tank.... Personally I think Eli would have gone to San Diego if Axorsi didn't tamper and put the bug in Archie's heead(I find it very convenient the Giants free fell the year he was coming out and Acorsi was willing to give up a Hershall Waller type amount of picks to move up to get him
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 28, 2020 8:12:02 GMT -5
I hinted at this, in another thread a few days ago. I didn't follow the draft, back when Eli was taken by the Chargers but manipulated the trade to our team. Exactly how does a college player get that done? What if he really wants to go to... say the Cowboys? He is a Falcon fan in all likelihood.. If they are in full reboot and not close enough they could trade Ryan and go full tank.... Personally I think Eli would have gone to San Diego if Axorsi didn't tamper and put the bug in Archie's heead(I find it very convenient the Giants free fell the year he was coming out and Acorsi was willing to give up a Hershall Waller type amount of picks to move up to get him I'd really like the QB situation to remain the same in our division, hopefully he's a huge Falcon fan and thinks Jerry Jones is creepy.
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 28, 2020 8:35:37 GMT -5
I hinted at this, in another thread a few days ago. I didn't follow the draft, back when Eli was taken by the Chargers but manipulated the trade to our team. Exactly how does a college player get that done? What if he really wants to go to... say the Cowboys? Eli and Elway both avoided teams that originally drafted them. The college player has the choice not to sign and get traded or go back into the draft pool. If he really wants a particular team then that team must really want him also and secure the trade.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2020 8:44:38 GMT -5
He is a Falcon fan in all likelihood.. If they are in full reboot and not close enough they could trade Ryan and go full tank.... Personally I think Eli would have gone to San Diego if Axorsi didn't tamper and put the bug in Archie's heead(I find it very convenient the Giants free fell the year he was coming out and Acorsi was willing to give up a Hershall Waller type amount of picks to move up to get him I'd really like the QB situation to remain the same in our division, hopefully he's a huge Falcon fan and thinks Jerry Jones is creepy. Yeah that's the danger for us if he goes back Jerry doesn't resign Dak and has the easy excuse to tank by saying he has cap issues He would legit be the one scumbag to flagrantly try to go 0-16 and get away with it And Goodell would not have an issue because Jerruh has him in his hip pocket
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 28, 2020 9:19:23 GMT -5
I hinted at this, in another thread a few days ago. I didn't follow the draft, back when Eli was taken by the Chargers but manipulated the trade to our team. Exactly how does a college player get that done? What if he really wants to go to... say the Cowboys? Eli and Elway both avoided teams that originally drafted them. The college player has the choice not to sign and get traded or go back into the draft pool. If he really wants a particular team then that team must really want him also and secure the trade. I don't hear these possibilities discussed much, when people project what team is looking certain college players. It must be a very rare occurrence, and if teams can be snubbed like this it's not a good look for the league in terms of all teams staying competitive.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 28, 2020 9:21:34 GMT -5
I'd really like the QB situation to remain the same in our division, hopefully he's a huge Falcon fan and thinks Jerry Jones is creepy. Yeah that's the danger for us if he goes back Jerry doesn't resign Dak and has the easy excuse to tank by saying he has cap issues He would legit be the one scumbag to flagrantly try to go 0-16 and get away with it And Goodell would not have an issue because Jerruh has him in his hip pocket I was also concerned about this upcoming draft, if he's looking at what teams he doesn't want to go to already.
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