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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2020 9:34:12 GMT -5
Yeah that's the danger for us if he goes back Jerry doesn't resign Dak and has the easy excuse to tank by saying he has cap issues He would legit be the one scumbag to flagrantly try to go 0-16 and get away with it And Goodell would not have an issue because Jerruh has him in his hip pocket I was also concerned about this upcoming draft, if he's looking at what teams he doesn't want to go to already. I honestly don't think we are on the "do not want " list contrary to what some negative Nancy's say...this team still is within 10 years of their last super bowl and has a 40 year history of eventually getting things right.. If the rumors are true that potential GM candidates would want to come here because of Judge (also contrary to the loud complainers that No good GM will want a coach forced on him )then it would also probably mean Lawrence wouldn't mind coming here if we had the number 1
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 28, 2020 9:56:36 GMT -5
Eli and Elway both avoided teams that originally drafted them. The college player has the choice not to sign and get traded or go back into the draft pool. If he really wants a particular team then that team must really want him also and secure the trade. I don't hear these possibilities discussed much, when people project what team is looking certain college players. It must be a very rare occurrence, and if teams can be snubbed like this it's not a good look for the league in terms of all teams staying competitive. Yes you are correct. Also the draftee will be scrutinized for years to come. Eli and Elway both went on to provide Lombardis to the team that took the risk to get them. Maybe they were onto something. Also the chance to get drafted and paid is very rare so these occurrences must be well thought out.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 28, 2020 11:01:03 GMT -5
I was also concerned about this upcoming draft, if he's looking at what teams he doesn't want to go to already. I honestly don't think we are on the "do not want " list contrary to what some negative Nancy's say...this team still is within 10 years of their last super bowl and has a 40 year history of eventually getting things right.. If the rumors are true that potential GM candidates would want to come here because of Judge (also contrary to the loud complainers that No good GM will want a coach forced on him )then it would also probably mean Lawrence wouldn't mind coming here if we had the number 1 I haven't given up on Jones - I feel he wasn't brought along properly (to minimize his own issues) last season, and this season... well, you know.
I too doubt that this Lawrence would look at our organization like he would the Jets. I just had hopes we might be up on our division rivals going into next season, even with Jones in place. Having Lawrence somehow land on one of those teams, given he could push for a trade not to be on the Jets, would be a bit crushing.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 28, 2020 13:17:45 GMT -5
I don't hear these possibilities discussed much, when people project what team is looking certain college players. It must be a very rare occurrence, and if teams can be snubbed like this it's not a good look for the league in terms of all teams staying competitive. Yes you are correct. Also the draftee will be scrutinized for years to come. Eli and Elway both went on to provide Lombardis to the team that took the risk to get them. Maybe they were onto something. Also the chance to get drafted and paid is very rare so these occurrences must be well thought out. both of them had something very rare for prospects - leverage. Eli from his family, and Elway threatened to play for the Yankees. I don't see Lawrence having that kind of sway, in his case, he can stay in school, but that's about it (the way I see it).
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Post by bluebuddha on Oct 28, 2020 13:22:29 GMT -5
Yes you are correct. Also the draftee will be scrutinized for years to come. Eli and Elway both went on to provide Lombardis to the team that took the risk to get them. Maybe they were onto something. Also the chance to get drafted and paid is very rare so these occurrences must be well thought out. both of them had something very rare for prospects - leverage. Eli from his family, and Elway threatened to play for the Yankees. I don't see Lawrence having that kind of sway, in his case, he can stay in school, but that's about it (the way I see it). You would have to explain how Eli's family had leverage? I am not getting it. Elway I understand.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 28, 2020 16:09:30 GMT -5
if any of you were Trevor Lawrence would you want to be drafted by the Giants?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2020 16:58:54 GMT -5
if any of you were Trevor Lawrence would you want to be drafted by the Giants? Yes The Giants have a 40 year history of getting it right after down years.. The Jets are the only team besides possibly the lions i would not want to be drafted by
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 29, 2020 8:11:19 GMT -5
if any of you were Trevor Lawrence would you want to be drafted by the Giants? Yes The Giants have a 40 year history of getting it right after down years.. The Jets are the only team besides possibly the lions i would not want to be drafted by I think if he is there when we pick we should do it and let Jones and Lawrence battle it out and then trade the loser...
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 29, 2020 19:46:03 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 29, 2020 20:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 19, 2020 18:26:18 GMT -5
Man... he is good.
Enjoy it Jets
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 19, 2020 18:28:42 GMT -5
Man... he is good. Enjoy it Jets We know the Jets are going to mess this up and win a game, right?
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 19, 2020 18:40:16 GMT -5
Man... he is good. Enjoy it Jets We know the Jets are going to mess this up and win a game, right? I dont mind it if he went there but they better not screw him up. Living near Jax, it would be great if they got him too. Even though I think Minshew is a good QB, he ain't Lawrence.
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Post by TEM on Dec 19, 2020 20:49:24 GMT -5
We know the Jets are going to mess this up and win a game, right? I dont mind it if he went there but they better not screw him up.
Living near Jax, it would be great if they got him too. Even though I think Minshew is a good QB, he ain't Lawrence. They will destroy him . Their entire O-line is Becton. He will get killed before the 5 are set. Their LT is George Fant Who?!!!! He makes Flowers look like he is all millennium. He makes 9 a year for the next 3 seasons. IMO: It would be best for Lawrence's is to not commit to the draft and go into the supplemental or wait until next season
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 19, 2020 21:53:40 GMT -5
I dont mind it if he went there but they better not screw him up.
Living near Jax, it would be great if they got him too. Even though I think Minshew is a good QB, he ain't Lawrence. They will destroy him . Their entire O-line is Becton. He will get killed before the 5 are set. Their LT is George Fant Who?!!!! He makes Flowers look like he is all millennium. He makes 9 a year for the next 3 seasons. IMO: It would be best for Lawrence's is to not commit to the draft and go into the supplemental or wait until next season He goes back to school you will see the most obvious tank job in Dallas as they purposely tank,don't sign Dak You can see Atlanta tank as well with a new staff(trade Ryan to New England,Julio somewhere else )
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 20, 2020 11:00:29 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay.... Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it Read the same thing from several sports sources, at Gettlemans age and his present state of health I would think he should have enough money to retire and take care of his health....
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 20, 2020 11:05:04 GMT -5
Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it Read the same thing from several sports sources, at Gettleman age and his present state of health I would think he should have enough money to retire and take care of his health.... This is an old pull up Now i think he does a passing of the torch in 2021,stays on but says this is his last year and wants to move up into a president/consultant role after the draft and wants to help groom the next guy.
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 20, 2020 12:19:31 GMT -5
Read the same thing from several sports sources, at Gettleman age and his present state of health I would think he should have enough money to retire and take care of his health.... This is an old pull up Now i think he does a passing of the torch in 2021,stays on but says this is his last year and wants to move up into a president/consultant role after the draft and wants to help groom the next guy. I think I may be in the minority on this but I have always liked DG and wouldn't mind if he chose to stay....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 20, 2020 12:45:35 GMT -5
Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it Read the same thing from several sports sources, at Gettlemans age and his present state of health I would think he should have enough money to retire and take care of his health.... Also the fact he is a terrible GM doesnt help... I hope its true
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 20, 2020 19:54:13 GMT -5
Man... he is good. Enjoy it Je...ags Fixed
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 21, 2020 10:12:02 GMT -5
Man, they could be set up for a nice run here if they dont screw it up...
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 23, 2020 13:03:39 GMT -5
Lawrence looks really good to me, he has a strong arm. His haircut needs work.
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Post by Nite on Dec 23, 2020 16:41:35 GMT -5
Yes The Giants have a 40 year history of getting it right after down years.. The Jets are the only team besides possibly the lions i would not want to be drafted by I think if he is there when we pick we should do it and let Jones and Lawrence battle it out and then trade the loser... If we are in the position of drafting Lawrence we should (will)
- Fire Gettlemen (In Jan)
- Trade Jones at the draft for more pics
- Get rid anyone associated with the old regime who was involved with the draft, evaluating players..
- See if Shurmur wants to come back as a QB coach
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 23, 2020 17:02:23 GMT -5
I think if he is there when we pick we should do it and let Jones and Lawrence battle it out and then trade the loser... If we are in the position of drafting Lawrence we should (will)
- Fire Gettlemen (In Jan)
- Trade Jones at the draft for more pics
- Get rid anyone associated with the old regime who was involved with the draft, evaluating players..
- See if Shurmur wants to come back as a QB coach
It is physically impossible for us to get the #1 pick anymore.
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 23, 2020 17:11:39 GMT -5
I just don't think that's the Giants way. If they do lean that way, you gotta assume Judge is the deciding factor there. I think trading the pick is more likely. And then Gettelman willl say in interviews later that that was his plan the whole time. No way we get the #1 pick and Gettleman stays IMO replacing Gettleman might be a little tricky since a new GM might want to bring in his own people including a new QB, maybe not but its something to think about..
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 23, 2020 17:20:35 GMT -5
how many wins do people think we need to get for DG to stay.... Saw a blip from some ESPN related page that Getty is rumored to be done at the end of the year Can't find it if Gettleman is done at the end of the year it might have far reaching ramifications as pertains to who his replacement is and what the new guy would want to change...
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 23, 2020 18:08:40 GMT -5
No way we get the #1 pick and Gettleman stays IMO replacing Gettleman might be a little tricky since a new GM might want to bring in his own people including a new QB, maybe not but its something to think about.. Well, we’re not getting the #1 pick, so the question is kind of moot ....
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 23, 2020 20:06:40 GMT -5
IMO replacing Gettleman might be a little tricky since a new GM might want to bring in his own people including a new QB, maybe not but its something to think about.. Well, we’re not getting the #1 pick, so the question is kind of moot .... Still doesn't mean DG isn't fired though
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 23, 2020 20:19:27 GMT -5
Well, we’re not getting the #1 pick, so the question is kind of moot .... Still doesn't mean DG isn't fired though Agreed
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 23, 2020 21:29:35 GMT -5
IMO replacing Gettleman might be a little tricky since a new GM might want to bring in his own people including a new QB, maybe not but its something to think about.. Well, we’re not getting the #1 pick, so the question is kind of moot .... I'm tired of believing in anyone's evaluation of any college QB as "the one." Most often everyone is wrong. Remember suck for luck? What the skins gave up for RG3? Rosen? Haskins? How many rings did they get? It takes a team. A good/great QB obviously helps, but they are few and far between. **** Trevor Lawrence. Build a team.
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