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Post by TEM on Oct 1, 2020 14:49:23 GMT -5
Like the drives the 49ers had last week they punted on. If I recall that was none of them. Your above mentioned entire post reads like a PFF analysis. What Game were you watching? Lol ok, i see you analyze a great player game by game which is ok. I respect your opinion. Full body of work though, Bradberry is an amazing CB. Weren't you talking about Love? How did it change to Bradburry? Is this not what you said? "Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far."
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Post by TEM on Oct 1, 2020 14:55:21 GMT -5
Like the drives the 49ers had last week they punted on. If I recall that was none of them. Your above mentioned entire post reads like a PFF analysis. What Game were you watching? The 49ers were not throwing deep against us. Love leads the Giants in tackles, which indicates he's making the plays at the second level. He is getting abused in the running game. He should not be in on running downs. He is one of the reasons teams are getting big chunks on the ground. He is too small to be a safety
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 20:31:26 GMT -5
Look at the full game tape again You work for PFF, right? Where do they have him ranked? not officially, hiring process halted because of Covid. Not sure on the rankings, but I would say #3 according to the numbers as a best guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 20:35:57 GMT -5
The 49ers were not throwing deep against us. Love leads the Giants in tackles, which indicates he's making the plays at the second level. He is getting abused in the running game. He should not be in on running downs. He is one of the reasons teams are getting big chunks on the ground. He is too small to be a safety Bro you have no clue about football, honestly. Love is cleaning up mistakes made by other players left and right. Please do not speak on Love again until you rewatch every game this season. Geeez smh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 20:39:51 GMT -5
Lol ok, i see you analyze a great player game by game which is ok. I respect your opinion. Full body of work though, Bradberry is an amazing CB. Weren't you talking about Love? How did it change to Bradburry? Is this not what you said? "Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far."i was just getting back on topic. Bradberry is a dope corner. Refreshing to watch his awareness and confidence, even though he knows he doesn’t match up well against sub 4.4 guys. Still plays like he’s the next Revis and you gotta respect that 💪🏿
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 1, 2020 20:43:40 GMT -5
You work for PFF, right? Where do they have him ranked? not officially, hiring process halted because of Covid. Not sure on the rankings, but I would say #3 according to the numbers as a best guess. I’m talking about Love PFF has love as the 75th ranked safety.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 1, 2020 20:53:32 GMT -5
The 49ers were not throwing deep against us. Love leads the Giants in tackles, which indicates he's making the plays at the second level. He is getting abused in the running game. He should not be in on running downs. He is one of the reasons teams are getting big chunks on the ground. He is too small to be a safety He’s the leading tackler at FS which means he’s making the tackles that are missed at the first level. He also has one of the lowest missed tackle rates in the league.
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Post by TEM on Oct 2, 2020 5:50:29 GMT -5
He is getting abused in the running game. He should not be in on running downs. He is one of the reasons teams are getting big chunks on the ground. He is too small to be a safety He’s the leading tackler at FS which means he’s making the tackles that are missed at the first level. He also has one of the lowest missed tackle rates in the league. Lead tackler at free safety on a team that cannot get off the field? What does that even mean? He is a 20-40% snap count player, playing 95% of the defensive snaps. One of the reasons our Defense gets ran through. As I said Xavier McKinney cannot get off IR fast enough.
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Post by TEM on Oct 2, 2020 5:51:57 GMT -5
Weren't you talking about Love? How did it change to Bradburry? Is this not what you said? "Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far."i was just getting back on topic. Bradberry is a dope corner. Refreshing to watch his awareness and confidence, even though he knows he doesn’t match up well against sub 4.4 guys. Still plays like he’s the next Revis and you gotta respect that 💪🏿 So I can take it you agree with me about love . He flat out is not big enough tho be a saftey.
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Post by TEM on Oct 2, 2020 6:04:45 GMT -5
He is getting abused in the running game. He should not be in on running downs. He is one of the reasons teams are getting big chunks on the ground. He is too small to be a safety Bro you have no clue about football, honestly. Love is cleaning up mistakes made by other players left and right. Please do not speak on Love again until you rewatch every game this season. Geeez smh Again I do not know what games you are watching . You are not watching Giants games writing comments like this. Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far." Perhaps you should actually watch the game. Because zero drives were stopped on Sunday . The 9ers did not punt once and had the ball for 40 minutes. Now if you really watched the game or even read about what happend in the game. You wouuld have never wrote this. And you have the nerve to call me and others clueless .
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Post by TEM on Oct 2, 2020 6:09:59 GMT -5
Not trying to be rude, but somebody want to explain this to me because I haven’t seen the guy do shit. I may be watching the Bizarro World Giants or something, but seriously, I don’t know what the hell the OP is talking about. Did I miss something? might be all the pass deflections he has already in 3 games. I don’t believe he’s given up a td either, someone confirm that. He’s played extremely well. Bradberry has given up 2 TDs.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 2, 2020 9:33:58 GMT -5
i was just getting back on topic. Bradberry is a dope corner. Refreshing to watch his awareness and confidence, even though he knows he doesn’t match up well against sub 4.4 guys. Still plays like he’s the next Revis and you gotta respect that 💪🏿 So I can take it you agree with me about love . He flat out is not big enough tho be a saftey. Love is 5' 11". Too small for what? He's a tackling machine. Earl Thomas is 5' 10". You say you'd rather have Xavier McKinney, he's only an inch taller than Love.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 2, 2020 13:17:44 GMT -5
Antione Bethea was the leading tackler for the giants last season.. So what?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 14:11:06 GMT -5
Bro you have no clue about football, honestly. Love is cleaning up mistakes made by other players left and right. Please do not speak on Love again until you rewatch every game this season. Geeez smh Again I do not know what games you are watching . You are not watching Giants games writing comments like this. Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far." Perhaps you should actually watch the game. Because zero drives were stopped on Sunday . The 9ers did not punt once and had the ball for 40 minutes. Now if you really watched the game or even read about what happend in the game. You wouuld have never wrote this. And you have the nerve to call me and others clueless . What does forcing punts have to do with individual performances?
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 2, 2020 16:28:07 GMT -5
So I can take it you agree with me about love . He flat out is not big enough tho be a saftey. Love is 5' 11". Too small for what? He's a tackling machine. Earl Thomas is 5' 10". You say you'd rather have Xavier McKinney, he's only an inch taller than Love. Before Sunday he had 8 tackles. A tackling machine? Is that machine made in Indonesia?
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Post by McCherry on Oct 2, 2020 19:01:49 GMT -5
Love is 5' 11". Too small for what? He's a tackling machine. Earl Thomas is 5' 10". You say you'd rather have Xavier McKinney, he's only an inch taller than Love. Before Sunday he had 8 tackles. A tackling machine? Is that machine made in Indonesia? He's on pace for over 100 tackles.
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Post by TEM on Oct 3, 2020 6:22:38 GMT -5
Again I do not know what games you are watching . You are not watching Giants games writing comments like this. Love is a FS whos primary job is to stop plays that get past the 1st & 2nd levels of the defense & also play the deep safety role. If you look at his play from that perspective you will see how many drive saving tackles he has made so far." Perhaps you should actually watch the game. Because zero drives were stopped on Sunday . The 9ers did not punt once and had the ball for 40 minutes. Now if you really watched the game or even read about what happend in the game. You wouuld have never wrote this. And you have the nerve to call me and others clueless . What does forcing punts have to do with individual performances? The primary goal of the defense is to put their offense back on the field without the opponet scorning. Do you understand that?
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Post by TEM on Oct 3, 2020 6:24:36 GMT -5
So I can take it you agree with me about love . He flat out is not big enough tho be a saftey. Love is 5' 11". Too small for what? He's a tackling machine. Earl Thomas is 5' 10". You say you'd rather have Xavier McKinney, he's only an inch taller than Love. He is one of the worst safties it the league. He is a dime of nickle package guy . And that is what he should be while learning. Anyother time he is on the field the Defense is at a disadvantage. This is the problem with complacency. Mediocrity become acceptable. Love is a 4th round one trick poney at this point. Now if you think he is a " NFL quility" free saftey . Let me tell you about this other FS we had. His name was Antrel Rolle. He was not the best FS the giants ever fielded. Rolle was a slightly above avarage FS. A few pro bowls . Never was an all pro. He could cover his guy and tackle " The job of the FS". Now if our FS is in the mid 90s in snap count. Rolle like; is the production we need from a FS. Love is not producing that. I get he is in his 2nd seson as a 4th round pick. At this point in his career . He has no business being a starter or high snap count player on this defence. We need complete players not " I can do half my job" He is not a quality NFL starter as of today. 2-3 more years maybe. PS: Thomas and McKinney are close to 10 pounds heaver than him. So was Rolle. He is sub 200 lbs. That is corner weight not safety
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Post by McCherry on Oct 3, 2020 10:15:22 GMT -5
Love is 5' 11". Too small for what? He's a tackling machine. Earl Thomas is 5' 10". You say you'd rather have Xavier McKinney, he's only an inch taller than Love. He is one of the worst safties it the league. He is a dime of nickle package guy . And that is what he should be while learning. Anyother time he is on the field the Defense is at a disadvantage. This is the problem with complacency. Mediocrity become acceptable. Love is a 4th round one trick poney at this point. Now if you think he is a " NFL quility" free saftey . Let me tell you about this other FS we had. His name was Antrel Rolle. He was not the best FS the giants ever fielded. Rolle was a slightly above avarage FS. A few pro bowls . Never was an all pro. He could cover his guy and tackle " The job of the FS". Now if our FS is in the mid 90s in snap count. Rolle like; is the production we need from a FS. Love is not producing that. I get he is in his 2nd seson as a 4th round pick. At this point in his career . He has no business being a starter or high snap count player on this defence. We need complete players not " I can do half my job" He is not a quality NFL starter as of today. 2-3 more years maybe. PS: Thomas and McKinney are close to 10 pounds heaver than him. So was Rolle. He is sub 200 lbs. That is corner weight not safety Now you're just making things up... And the average size of an NFL free safety is 6'0 200 lbs. Love is 195, Mckinney 201.
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Post by TEM on Oct 3, 2020 10:57:33 GMT -5
He is one of the worst safties it the league. He is a dime of nickle package guy . And that is what he should be while learning. Anyother time he is on the field the Defense is at a disadvantage. This is the problem with complacency. Mediocrity become acceptable. Love is a 4th round one trick poney at this point. Now if you think he is a " NFL quility" free saftey . Let me tell you about this other FS we had. His name was Antrel Rolle. He was not the best FS the giants ever fielded. Rolle was a slightly above avarage FS. A few pro bowls . Never was an all pro. He could cover his guy and tackle " The job of the FS". Now if our FS is in the mid 90s in snap count. Rolle like; is the production we need from a FS. Love is not producing that. I get he is in his 2nd seson as a 4th round pick. At this point in his career . He has no business being a starter or high snap count player on this defence. We need complete players not " I can do half my job" He is not a quality NFL starter as of today. 2-3 more years maybe. PS: Thomas and McKinney are close to 10 pounds heaver than him. So was Rolle. He is sub 200 lbs. That is corner weight not safety Now you're just making things up... And the average size of an NFL free safety is 6'0 200 lbs. Love is 195, Mckinney 201. He sub 200 LBS. It is irrelevent anyway . He is not a good FS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 19:03:30 GMT -5
Excellent addition. I like the way Martinez is playing. best LB we've had in quite some time. It was refreshing to see, even in a dismal game. So we have a total of 2 good players? Sheeesh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 7:17:17 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Oct 13, 2020 8:04:24 GMT -5
so far he has been excellent......
no complaints at all
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Post by McCherry on Oct 13, 2020 8:27:41 GMT -5
The problem has been the other CB's. Holmes has been awful, 17 recepts in 23 targets.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 13, 2020 8:30:46 GMT -5
The problem has been the other CB's. Holmes has been awful, 17 recepts in 23 targets. But, he made a good tackle last Sunday. Which means, all is forgiven.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 8:34:55 GMT -5
The problem has been the other CB's. Holmes has been awful, 17 recepts in 23 targets. But, he made a good tackle last Sunday. Which means, all is forgiven. Don't forget that defended pass in the end zone on the Cowboys 1st drive.. 2 good plays are better then 1!! Just need to give 3 to 4 years in order to develop into a serviceable player!!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 13, 2020 8:38:34 GMT -5
I watched Bradberry a few times after DG drafted him early on he was thrown to the wolves by years end he was starting to show he could excel. Then we played them he had OBJ and when it counted most Eli through one up in the end zone OBJ goes up plucks it I'm about start going crazy and Bradberry sticks his hand in there and rips it out saved the game for his team on that play. Thats when I took notice he is long fast and strong on the ball. great pickup along with Ganno Fackrel think Brad and Martinez are the cream of the crop tho.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 13, 2020 8:39:41 GMT -5
The problem has been the other CB's. Holmes has been awful, 17 recepts in 23 targets. He's gonna improve hopefully as he get learns the ins and outs of the pro game.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 13, 2020 8:57:12 GMT -5
But, he made a good tackle last Sunday. Which means, all is forgiven. Don't forget that defended pass in the end zone on the Cowboys 1st drive.. 2 good plays are better then 1!! Just need to give 3 to 4 years in order to develop into a serviceable player!!All our players should come with instructions. Feed and water daily, and give it a few years before you start to see progress.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 9:28:55 GMT -5
Don't forget that defended pass in the end zone on the Cowboys 1st drive.. 2 good plays are better then 1!! Just need to give 3 to 4 years in order to develop into a serviceable player!!All our players should come with instructions. Feed and water daily, and give it a few years before you start to see progress. Then they will get injured and the process starts over again..
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